A sliding toggle (Yes, another suspension idea)

[Dutch]

Will this work with the thinner Dynaglide?

Yes but it has been said many times, hanging can push the limits on dynaglide. I don't put too much creadence that we are degrading the amsteel with the tight radius but Dynaglide would be an ever tighter radius and with a lower breaking strength.

[MAD777]

That's what has me worried too. I use Dynaglide but in the form of whoopies with no tight radii in the mix. If I switch to Amsteel and add a toggle, the shorter line savings probably won't be an advantage. Plus, as of now, it's an unproven reliability.

[Dutch]

That's what has me worried too. I use Dynaglide but in the form of whoopies with no tight radii in the mix. If I switch to Amsteel and add a toggle, the shorter line savings probably won't be an advantage. Plus, as of now, it's an unproven reliability.

Honestly I would do it but I fall sometimes and I have lawyers right behind my computor chair all the time.

[Bonepile]

Honestly I would do it but I fall sometimes and I have lawyers right behind my computor chair all the time.

So you can sue yourself?

[Jazilla]

What if you tied a slip knot with the dutch hook. Sort of something like seen here.
Like in the then photo the knot stops the hook from sliding off. Then the hook attached to the cl on the hammock.

[MAD777]

What if you tied a slip knot with the dutch hook.

With my luck, a bird would spot the free end of the line, swoop down and snatch it for his nest and be gone by the time I hit the ground!

[Allen]

I'm new here, but I've been playing around with a variation on this, perhaps the "sliding carabiner suspension."

With practice you can tie either a clove hitch or a munter hitch (basically a half hitch) one handed with the carabiner in hand.

So your hammock hangs from the carabiner, and you just hitch that carabiner to your suspension just as you would the toggle. A munter hitch will slide if it's unloaded and then you could back that up with another half hitch once adjusted...in theory. Because it's a carabiner the whole knot can just be slid out through the gate when tearing down rather than loosening a clove hitch with your fingers.

Penalty is that even a light carabiner is going to be heavier than a wood toggle. Advantage is that it's going to be more secure and it's extra newer (unless this is an old idea).

I'll have to post pics when my gear arrives.

[MDSH]

I'm new here, but I've been playing around with a variation on this, perhaps the "sliding carabiner suspension."

With practice you can tie either a clove hitch or a munter hitch (basically a half hitch) one handed with the carabiner in hand.

So your hammock hangs from the carabiner, and you just hitch that carabiner to your suspension just as you would the toggle. A munter hitch will slide if it's unloaded and then you could back that up with another half hitch once adjusted...in theory. Because it's a carabiner the whole knot can just be slid out through the gate when tearing down rather than loosening a clove hitch with your fingers.

Penalty is that even a light carabiner is going to be heavier than a wood toggle. Advantage is that it's going to be more secure and it's extra newer (unless this is an old idea).

I'll have to post pics when my gear arrives.

Of course, directly to the carabiner! Maybe even a simple slip knot with a double bite. So simple! I'll have to test that out.

I'm going to feel real dense if it works! LOL

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[Tendertoe]

Of course, directly to the carabiner! Maybe even a simple slip knot with a double bite. So simple! I'll have to test that out.

I'm going to feel real dense if it works! LOL

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I tried a similar setup to what you're talking about and it works well... with webbing. I used it a couple years back with webbing in the method Ray Mears described.

Illustrated at the 2:50 mark of this video


Double slippery half hitch with webbing.

This is actually exactly what I tried and referenced on page 2 back in this thread that failed on me when I tried it with Dynaglide instead of webbing. I had removed the descender ring or in your case the carabiner from the equation and was tying directly to the continuous loop of at the end of the hammock.

Be cautious.

[Fish<><]

Ok I had to join in on the fun. I used a whoopie hook. I pull the loop through the hole and then put the free end in the loop. That way I get the safety of the hook and the adjustablility of the toggle.

I was thinking kind of the same thing as far as practical application for myself, but instead of just a hole like in your whoopie hook, why not a double hole type thing with the area in between the two holes being where the free end runs back through so there is no chance of the lines pulling through. Basically a buckle but for Amsteel. Thoughts?