i dont understand why pads work better than down under quilts for me,my 3 season jarbridge under quilt kept me warm in the upper 20's.i have never got cold with an army closed cell pad in the single digits,but i had one cold spot with my 20 degree phoniex with 2 oz over fill in the upper 20's and that quilt should be good down to 15 degrees.i am a hot hot sleeper too.has anyone else here found pads work better for them.i have been hammock camping since 2002 and i have been a 4 season hammocker since 2004.from 2002 to 2012 i have only used a pad.kinda dissapointed in spending a lot of money on something i dont have confidence inneo