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    Senior Member OldNWay's Avatar
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    Solo Allegany Front Trail

    I would like to share my 2 night solo hike 2 weeks ago on the AFT
    (Allegheny Front Trail) in central Pa. This was my first hiking
    trip since my Boy Scout days 45 years ago (C&O canal).
    A call to a friend living in the area mentioned I would find a 4in snow
    pack and the night time temps around 20* with that in mind my equipment
    consisted of a LLBean pack weighing in at a whopping 7lbs, my DIY GE hammock, my suspension is 2 10ft straps 12in Amsteal Continues loop and 3in 1/2in PVC marlin spikes, a Warbonet sock 0* HG UQ, a LLBean synthetic insulated 20* SB for a TQ, and a PL extra blanket, DIY alky stove, 10oz of Heat and a DIY Bushbuddy stove for back up My food bag weight was about 5 lb, (I’m always afraid I'll go hungry). 2 pairs of extra wool socks, ripstop wind pants, base layer long johns, a fleece pajama bottoms for sleeping, a fleece cap and mittens a light fleece jacket, also a LLBean prima loft jacket. I started out wearing cotton hiking pants and the fleece jacket.
    My pack weight 40lb OUCH!! plus I carried 2 ltr bottles of water. My first big decision
    was what to wear on my feet. Its 39* with a 4in snow pack???? I went with my Sorel pac
    boots mainly because they are water proof.
    1st day: My planned trek was the SE half of the 40ml AFT.A late 2:30pm start
    hiked until 5pm, traveled about 5ml, temp where dropping and it was windy
    I moved off the trail about 50 yds into the brush. Set up my hammock
    gathered kindling for a fire. Dinner was packaged Sardines and Mash potatoes
    in Frozen Zip bags. My DIY Alk stove worked great. Night temp went down
    to 18* didn't sleep well. I think it was the Sardines.
    Day2: Breakfast was hot coffee, hot Kashi w/Proten powder in a FzBag.
    Got on trail 9:30. Temps started creeping up by lunch it was 45*. Stopped
    at the Ralph Majestic Vista for lunch. Terrain was moderate hilly. Was
    hoping to hike around 10-12 miles so I'd finish early Sunday morning.
    Wasn't the case with the snow, hills and my pack weight. I had only traveled
    about 7ml. By 4:30 I was pretty spent and I was in a low flat area
    close to water and knowing I was going up I called it a day due to
    temps my feet and pack boots where very wet. Set up, built a fire. Dinner
    was packaged rice in sauce and Beef Jerky. Temps at 7:30 50*. Dried boot
    packs over fire and inserted packaged hand warmers overnight. Slept great
    Day3: Up at 6am breakfast was coffee, Instant Oatmeal with DIY Dyhd Apples and
    On the trail 9am, trec started up hill and slow until 11am went down hill
    and stayed down along the Pine Creek with a wall of Rhododendrons on both side
    towering over my head. I remember thanking God for creating
    something this beautiful and sharing it with me. It was windy and Temps
    50* I finished the 20 ml loop at 3:30 pm with not much left in the tank.
    Over all I enjoyed the adventure, the trail was beautiful and challenging.
    maybe a little too challenging for my level of experience. I would
    compare it to the Triathlons I’ve done, you cover the coarse but you
    didn't see much of it. The boots where wrong but my feet would have been
    a lot wetter. Next time I hope to have a lighter pack. Force myself to
    take less food. Did I mention I brought back over half my food. Take more
    fuel, I ran out so I used the Bushbuddy. I would still carry it. I didn't
    bring a small water bottle. If a need a drink I had to stop take the pack
    off because the pouches with the Ltr bottles is on the back side, that had to be the
    most aggravating part of the trip. Also I would bring along a pair of camp shoes.
    I printed out the Topo map DNR offered wish I would have taken time
    to do some Land Nav
    In spit of my lack of experience the trip was great, I learned a lot
    and most of what I already knew came from this forum and all of you.
    Thank You
    OldNWay
    http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/OLDNTHEWAY/library/AFT?page=1[/IMG]
    Last edited by OldNWay; 03-21-2013 at 09:44. Reason: Spelling

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    Senior Member sturgeon's Avatar
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    Thanks for posting. I enjoyed your pictures. That's ambitious to do some winter camping on your first hiking trip in 45 years! Admirable.

    I hope you continue. Whittle down your pack weight and reap the rewards...
    Cheers from north of the border!

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    Nice report. I hope to head up there in the next year or two....probably when it's a little warmer.
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    Nice report. Getting back into something is always a recalibration. It sounds like you did well. I hope you continue to enjoy it. Thanks for sharing.
    YMMV

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    Free advice worth what you paid for it. ;-)

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    Funny how even a hard trip wasn't so bad after you finish . The best part is every trip you learn something new about yourself or your gear and just get better. Thanks for the trip report.

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    Thank you for reading and all the replies. I forgot to mention I carried a Chinook Tarp.Also I appreciate advice regarding my footwear. Consider the snow and warm weather and the amount of hiking, what would have been a better choice, and how much would your food bag weigh with 6 meals
    Thank You

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    Great trip report. I liked the AFT so much that I thru hiked it twice last year with my dog ben. Once clock wise and once counter cw just to see what I missed. The blueberries were awesome in July.
    I like refried beans. That's why I wanna try fried beans, because maybe they're just as good and we're just wasting time. You don't have to fry them again after all.

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    Did I see you on trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldNWay View Post
    I would like to share my 2 night solo hike 2 weeks ago on the AFT
    (Allegheny Front Trail) in central Pa. This was my first hiking
    trip since my Boy Scout days 45 years ago (C&O canal).
    A call to a friend living in the area mentioned I would find a 4in snow
    pack and the night time temps around 20* with that in mind my equipment
    consisted of a LLBean pack weighing in at a whopping 7lbs, my DIY GE hammock, my suspension is 2 10ft straps 12in Amsteal Continues loop and 3in 1/2in PVC marlin spikes, a Warbonet sock 0* HG UQ, a LLBean synthetic insulated 20* SB for a TQ, and a PL extra blanket, DIY alky stove, 10oz of Heat and a DIY Bushbuddy stove for back up My food bag weight was about 5 lb, (I’m always afraid I'll go hungry). 2 pairs of extra wool socks, ripstop wind pants, base layer long johns, a fleece pajama bottoms for sleeping, a fleece cap and mittens a light fleece jacket, also a LLBean prima loft jacket. I started out wearing cotton hiking pants and the fleece jacket.
    My pack weight 40lb OUCH!! plus I carried 2 ltr bottles of water. My first big decision
    was what to wear on my feet. Its 39* with a 4in snow pack???? I went with my Sorel pac
    boots mainly because they are water proof.
    1st day: My planned trek was the SE half of the 40ml AFT.A late 2:30pm start
    hiked until 5pm, traveled about 5ml, temp where dropping and it was windy
    I moved off the trail about 50 yds into the brush. Set up my hammock
    gathered kindling for a fire. Dinner was packaged Sardines and Mash potatoes
    in Frozen Zip bags. My DIY Alk stove worked great. Night temp went down
    to 18* didn't sleep well. I think it was the Sardines.
    Day2: Breakfast was hot coffee, hot Kashi w/Proten powder in a FzBag.
    Got on trail 9:30. Temps started creeping up by lunch it was 45*. Stopped
    at the Ralph Majestic Vista for lunch. Terrain was moderate hilly. Was
    hoping to hike around 10-12 miles so I'd finish early Sunday morning.
    Wasn't the case with the snow, hills and my pack weight. I had only traveled
    about 7ml. By 4:30 I was pretty spent and I was in a low flat area
    close to water and knowing I was going up I called it a day due to
    temps my feet and pack boots where very wet. Set up, built a fire. Dinner
    was packaged rice in sauce and Beef Jerky. Temps at 7:30 50*. Dried boot
    packs over fire and inserted packaged hand warmers overnight. Slept great
    Day3: Up at 6am breakfast was coffee, Instant Oatmeal with DIY Dyhd Apples and
    On the trail 9am, trec started up hill and slow until 11am went down hill
    and stayed down along the Pine Creek with a wall of Rhododendrons on both side
    towering over my head. I remember thanking God for creating
    something this beautiful and sharing it with me. It was windy and Temps
    50* I finished the 20 ml loop at 3:30 pm with not much left in the tank.
    Over all I enjoyed the adventure, the trail was beautiful and challenging.
    maybe a little too challenging for my level of experience. I would
    compare it to the Triathlons I’ve done, you cover the coarse but you
    didn't see much of it. The boots where wrong but my feet would have been
    a lot wetter. Next time I hope to have a lighter pack. Force myself to
    take less food. Did I mention I brought back over half my food. Take more
    fuel, I ran out so I used the Bushbuddy. I would still carry it. I didn't
    bring a small water bottle. If a need a drink I had to stop take the pack
    off because the pouches with the Ltr bottles is on the back side, that had to be the
    most aggravating part of the trip. Also I would bring along a pair of camp shoes.
    I printed out the Topo map DNR offered wish I would have taken time
    to do some Land Nav
    In spit of my lack of experience the trip was great, I learned a lot
    and most of what I already knew came from this forum and all of you.
    Thank You
    OldNWay
    http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/OLDNTHEWAY/library/AFT?page=1[/IMG]
    I'm pretty sure that I met you briefly on trail when you were resting on Saturday after finishing the tough section on the SE part of the loop. You talked with Marty, who was hiking with me and was ahead of me. I came up and we did not talk long, except I did find out that you were hammock camping. Afterwards, I realized I should have asked you about whether you were on this forum. It was a tough weekend to hike the AFT due to the snow conditions, but beautiful regardless.
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    [QUOTE=QiWiz;972462]I'm pretty sure that I met you briefly on trail when you were resting on Saturday after finishing the tough section on the SE part of the loop. You talked with Marty, who was hiking with me and was ahead of me. I came up and we did not talk long, except I did find out that you were hammock camping. Afterwards, I realized I should have asked you about whether you were on this forum. It was a tough weekend to hike the AFT due to the snow conditions, but beautiful regardless.[/QUOTE
    Yes I remember, thank you for stopping I enjoyed our chat I also remember you being familiar with hammock camping. I ended up staying overnight at Rock Run Trail it was down next to the stream and the bridge. I wish I would have taken pictures of the campsite it was nice their. Hope we'll meet up again

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    [QUOTE=OldNWay;973309]
    Quote Originally Posted by QiWiz View Post
    I'm pretty sure that I met you briefly on trail when you were resting on Saturday after finishing the tough section on the SE part of the loop. You talked with Marty, who was hiking with me and was ahead of me. I came up and we did not talk long, except I did find out that you were hammock camping. Afterwards, I realized I should have asked you about whether you were on this forum. It was a tough weekend to hike the AFT due to the snow conditions, but beautiful regardless.[/QUOTE

    Yes I remember, thank you for stopping I enjoyed our chat I also remember you being familiar with hammock camping. I ended up staying overnight at Rock Run Trail it was down next to the stream and the bridge. I wish I would have taken pictures of the campsite it was nice their. Hope we'll meet up again
    Me too. I enjoyed the AFT East loop. Looking to maybe hike the West loop over Labor Day weekend. I'll be at the MAHHA at Pine Grove Furnace State Park in late April and hiking a bit on the AT after the hang.
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