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    Wearing down clothing under your top quilt to prevent cold spots?

    So I migrated to a real top quilt and under quilt.

    My issue now is that I get these cold spots from time to time. They aren't severe but they wake me up multiple times during the night.

    I was thinking of sleeping in my down pants and jacket.

    The upside of this is that the cold spots will go away.

    The downside is that I might actually have TOO MUCH down so I'm packing in too much weight.

    I mean I do have to admit that I'm obsessed with shaving weight but if I have a TQ/UQ that is rated for 20 and the temp is only 32 AND I'm wearing down clothes then I think that's kind of overkill.

    Thoughts?

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    I wear down pants and a vest, when the weather gets down to the single digits, under my down top quilt (TQ). It works great! My top quilt is rated to 15F to 20F and I've been comfy down to -11F with my down under layers, but I'm a warm sleeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burtonator View Post
    So I migrated to a real top quilt and under quilt.

    My issue now is that I get these cold spots from time to time. They aren't severe but they wake me up multiple times during the night.

    I was thinking of sleeping in my down pants and jacket.

    The upside of this is that the cold spots will go away.

    The downside is that I might actually have TOO MUCH down so I'm packing in too much weight.

    I mean I do have to admit that I'm obsessed with shaving weight but if I have a TQ/UQ that is rated for 20 and the temp is only 32 AND I'm wearing down clothes then I think that's kind of overkill.

    Thoughts?
    I've worn my down vest when the temperature dips. I'[d say that spending a few extra ounces for a good night's sleep is a worthwile tradeoff. You'll be better refreshed in the morning and you have some built in buffer if the temperatures suddenly take an unexpected dip.
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    Don't shave comfort.

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    I use a down jacket stocking cap and gloves for every hang except in summer. Since I wear them around camp at night I don't consider it extra weight do to quilts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burtonator View Post
    if I have a TQ/UQ that is rated for 20 and the temp is only 32 AND I'm wearing down clothes then I think that's kind of overkill.

    Thoughts?

    My first thought is that if you have down top and bottom quilts rated to 20* and you're getting cold at 32*, something might possibly be wrong with your setup?

    Are you sure your UQ is hung properly? Too tight? Too loose? Too open at the ends?

    On the other hand, you might have everything set up perfectly and are just a cold sleeper. If I'm going to push the ratings of my sleeping gear, I wear a set of the thickest ("expedition weight") polypro long underwear and zip T-neck, a fleece or wool hat, and fleece or wool gloves to sleep. I also zip up my jacket and put it around my top quilt at the foot end.

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    When the temp gets down to zero or below, I'll wear every bid of down that I own. Above zero, I adjust based on the temp.
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    Did you have the cold spot problem using a sleeping bag? Is it only since switching to a top quilt?

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    I used to have the same issue but with my underquilt. I used to think I had CBS from cold spots from the UQ but it ended up being my butt was cold before I got in the hammock. My suggestion is get warm before you get in your hammock. Eat high calorie foods drink hot beverages. Jumping jacks what ever. Then climb in. Now I've only been down to 7*F so my experience is limited. But with a properly tuned 20* UQ/TQ setup you should not be having a problem with cold until you start getting close to the quilts lower rating.

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    +1 to make sure the UQ is hung properly.

    If that's ok, and you aren't a cold sleeper, then chances are you have a defect like too little down in 1+ chambers.

    Oh by the way, was your old bag a mummy bag? If so be sure you are wearing similar insulation (to the hood) on your head in your new setup.

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