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    Quote Originally Posted by caboyer View Post
    Couldn't find any simple tables, but...
    Thanks, Chuck!
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    I'd rather defer to an M.E., though.
    I'm only barely qualified to run numbers like that, being a ChE, but I'm qualified enough to be willing to do it for myself. The article is for theoretical discussion, though, not applications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    Thanks, Chuck! .... The article is for theoretical discussion, though, not applications.
    No problem, sir... I'm only a EE myself and forgot most of what I suffered through in Mech. IMHO, though, that simple model would probably get you in the ball park. Anyway, I'll button up and let you get on with the fun.

    I much appreciate your many contributions here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caboyer View Post
    ...I'll button up and let you get on with the fun.
    Please, don't do that! Anyway, I never took Statics!

    The fun will be when I post my picture of a crumpled aluminum pole, and my hammock in a pile on the ground! Neither chemical nor electrical theory will put it back together again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    ...The fun will be when I post my picture of a crumpled aluminum pole, and my hammock in a pile on the ground! Neither chemical nor electrical theory will put it back together again.


    Nice tagline, btw - I'm a big fan of BF.

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    Just found Pedro's gallery; he's hanging from two ski poles!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caboyer View Post
    I'm a big fan of BF.
    BF gave good advice for internet forums:

    "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing."

    ...and for hammock hangers:

    "Fatigue is the best pillow."

    ...and AT hikers:

    "He that rises late must trot all day."

    ...and Shug:

    "The art of acting consists in keeping people from coughing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by caboyer View Post
    I got curious and had to try this out. Found some aluminum crutches in a closet here and decided to try a "treeless" hang. Didn't have any heavy duty ground stakes, so I improvised with some oversized "stakes" on hand -- a tree and a porch column. The lashup supported my 195 lb weight successfully, although I'm not sure I'd try to hang overnight this way.

    What became immediately obvious is the need to adequately secure the guy line(s) and the hammock connection to the top of the post (crutch). The aluminum was too slippery for the large rope I used to grip adequately.

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    You can hang from this overnight, caboyer! Search for my trip report from St. John, I used a folding version of that crutch.

    Try hanging from where the single tube joins up with the other two tubes. It's a low hang, but doable. This also puts the crutch tip at a good height above the hammock to support your tarp.

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    Thanks for your trip report, pedro - too cool!

    I'm also interested in your gearskin experience, if you ever get a chance to post some pics & insights in the DIY areas. TIA!

    - Chuck

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    How about using something like this to hang from. Haven't tried it but just kind of thinking about various possibilities.



    It's a sliding glass door bar that has a gravity lock. I've thought about ordering several of these to attempt an Aussie Anchor knock-off.

    Here's a video of one I used (cut down from the stock 28" - 48" adjustability to about half that and loosing the bottom pivot foot) as a dirt-bike jack (so you can see how the gravity lock functions). This got me thinking it might could function as a lightweight hammock stand.

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    treeless suspension

    Today i set-up a "tree-less suspension". Used 4 branches, 6' each. Lashed them at the top('stockgrowers lash?), spread them approx 2' at the bottom, leaned them to approx 45 deg( \ / )angle. clipped hammock biners into lashing(paracord). /\_/\ (with anchor lines). sorry for the generic diagrams, gonna have to upload pics. More r&d tomorrow.

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