VIDEO: Hammock Winter Wonder-Unders with Shug

**Shug** · 03-01-2009, 00:43

Whooo Buddy and Howdy Happy Hammockers All...
As winter has progressed I have been messing around with getting away from using pads in my hammock. I have always used them in deep winter here in Minnesota but as of late I have trying just bottom insulation on the outside of my hammocks. Way more comfortable and do-able in 0º and below. I still carry a thin CCF pad as back-up but may do away with that.
Here I show the "Full Winter" layering system. With ThermaDrape Vapor Barrior Under Quilt, Full down Under Quilt, 1/2 Down Under Quilt and the DriDucks Poncho/Weather Shield Modification. The beauty of this system is you can add or subtract parts to suit your style.
Still learning and experimenting and having a big ol' time figuring out the perfect combo.
Also have some "Cocoa Time" and other bits of weirdness.....
A "goodnight" song and an after-action morning report.
'Preciate you viewing......
"Preciate all the ideas from everybody here!!!!
All secure in sector seven,
Shug
Hammock Winter Under-Wonders with Shug

**stormcrow** · 03-01-2009, 01:22

Shug, as always you did a wonderful job on the details of you report.

Any clue what the setup that you had configured come in at weight wise? I know it is a lot of equipment there to keep a body warm at lower temperatures but I was just curious.

Adam

**Shug** · 03-01-2009, 01:33

Hey CrowofStorm,
My 1/2 UQ is 10ozs, full UQ 28ozs, DriDucks ... guessing 8 ozs, ThermaDrape UQ with ripstop ... not sure .. haven't weighed it but a rough guess would be around 12 to 14oz. That all is around 3 1/2 lbs.
Normally I have carried my BA insulated pad .. over a pound and an SPE and a full ccf pad along with the full UQ.
My idea is to use my winter Yeti, when it comes, 22 oz, my 1/2 UQ 10 oz and DriDucks poncho. No pads , well a sit pad. That should get the weight down.
I was just testing the waters on all this and it was SUPER WARM!
Shug

**Mule** · 03-01-2009, 02:43

I really enjoyed the video, Shug. Thanks.

**NCPatrick** · 03-01-2009, 06:40

Always fun to watch, Shug. Thanks for posting!

Looks like you've got QUITE a few layers there. Which ones do you think you'll weed out, since you got so much condensation? I really like your 1/2 underquilt too. I'll have to make something like that soon, but I worry about my feet getting cold.

**russmay** · 03-01-2009, 07:37

I always learn so much about sector 7, watching your videos.

**HappyCamper** · 03-01-2009, 08:43

Shug! You're a genius! I love the pillow attached to the ridgeline! Your check's in the mail.

**Javaman** · 03-01-2009, 09:04

Hey Shug,

The pillow idea makes perfect sense. Of course!! Worth the price of admission.

Great video.

**Shug** · 03-01-2009, 09:53

Originally Posted by NCPatrick

Always fun to watch, Shug. Thanks for posting!
Looks like you've got QUITE a few layers there. Which ones do you think you'll weed out, since you got so much condensation? I really like your 1/2 underquilt too. I'll have to make something like that soon, but I worry about my feet getting cold.

Well ....I slept out last night without the ThermaDrape layer. It got down to 0º and I had way less moisture condensation but WAS NOT AS WARM.
I think it is a balancing act ... do I want all that warmth and moisture and eventually a soggy down bag or less warmth and drier bag.
I am going to try and turn the ThermDrape layer inside out and try it some more. It really was warm.

**cavediver2** · 03-01-2009, 11:30

when you were sitting there drinking your hot coco it looked like some kind of wood burning stove next to you I have to ask what kind of stove was it it looked like a beer keg