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    Two DIY projects

    I'm looking at making a couple of synthetic TQs, and a sil tarp. So i am looking for some guidance from you diy-ers, and even those who are not.

    Synthetic TQs: I'm going to use climashield apex. Is it as simple as putting down a layer of ripstop, then climashield, then ripstop, and sew it all together? I'm also looking at having the temp range around the 30s, so I was thinking of using about 6oz of climashield. Is that enough?

    Sil tarp: I'm going for an 8x10 simple rectangle tarp. Is it as easy as sewing everything together, seem sealing everything and calling it good? Not sure how big of sil panels I can get, but I imagine I'll have to sew two panels together.

    Sorry for the long post, and I'll answer any questions you might have. Also, mods: if this should be in two separate posts, feel free to separate them, or let me know and I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkautzman89 View Post
    I'm looking at making a couple of synthetic TQs, and a sil tarp. So i am looking for some guidance from you diy-ers, and even those who are not.

    Synthetic TQs: I'm going to use climashield apex. Is it as simple as putting down a layer of ripstop, then climashield, then ripstop, and sew it all together? I'm also looking at having the temp range around the 30s, so I was thinking of using about 6oz of climashield. Is that enough?

    Sil tarp: I'm going for an 8x10 simple rectangle tarp. Is it as easy as sewing everything together, seem sealing everything and calling it good? Not sure how big of sil panels I can get, but I imagine I'll have to sew two panels together.

    Sorry for the long post, and I'll answer any questions you might have. Also, mods: if this should be in two separate posts, feel free to separate them, or let me know and I will.
    As to the quilts: yes, it really is that easy with Climashield. As long as you get your dimensions correct the first time 'round, Climashield is a very forgiving material to work with.

    As to temp rating, the equation to figure out the insulation needed is: 70 - Target Temp = 14 * CLO * Weight/Sq Yd (in ounces). So:

    70 - 30 = 14 * 0.82 (cribbed from here) * X
    40 = 14* 0.82 * X
    40 = 11.48 * X
    40 / 11.48 = X
    X = 3.48

    So, you need (roughly) 3.5 oz/sq yd APEX to get to 30* if you're wearing a base layer to bed (if not, the initial equation changes to 84 - 30 = 14 *0.82 * X, which works out to ~4.36 oz/sq yd). Note that this assumes everything else is perfect (i.e.: neither "hot" nor "cold" sleeper, humidity perfect, no wind, no drafts, not dehydrated or calorically deficient, etc.), so a good rule of thumb is to round up to the next whole number (so 4 oz/sq yd if wearing a base layer to bed and 5 oz if not).

    I second gmcttr's suggestion of the DIY Gear Supply tarp plans. Those're invaluable. As to the difficulty of a tarp, it's not that hard as long as you have your panels cut to the same size and pin them before seaming. Personally, I really like putting LineLoc 3s on the guyouts; they allow you to adjust your tarp without getting more'n your hands wet.

    Hope it helps!
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    If you have not done any DIY sewing projects then I suggest that you practice by making some stuff sacks as the sewing skills needed to make the stuff sacks are the same/similar to those needed to make a TQ or tarp. Much better to mess up a stuff sack than the tarp or TQ
    I am still 18 but with 52 years of experience !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner76 View Post
    If you have not done any DIY sewing projects then I suggest that you practice by making some stuff sacks as the sewing skills needed to make the stuff sacks are the same/similar to those needed to make a TQ or tarp. Much better to mess up a stuff sack than the tarp or TQ
    I just got a machine a month ago and this is good advice. I did a ton of sewing of various small projects just to practice before making a tarp. Quilts are next.
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    Re: Two DIY projects

    Thanks everyone. I am pretty handy with a sewing machine, but I know a couple people who are better. I checked out the site and it was very helpful. Now I just need to get around to buying the material. Hopefully this thread will stay alive for a while and be helpful for anyone who is new or just starting DIY.

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    I'm not exactly sure what FLrider was saying with all of his technical jargon (I'm just not that smart), but I have made a climashield topquilt and a silnylon hex tarp (not a rectangle, but not that much different).

    1st the topquilt, I used 5oz climashield Apex from thru hiker and 1.1 ripstop. I am very happy with my quilt and it comfortably takes me down to 40 degrees with long johns on. After that I would use hand warmers, and a sit pad under my feet to take me to 30 (this is with a 5oz climashield underquilt).
    My cousin and I modified that design
    http://backwoodsdaydreamer.webs.com/...mmer-top-quilt

    For the tarp I would say just decide your length and multiply it by 2. Then use the flat felled french seam in this diagram to sew them together http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/d...sewing-skills/ That also shows you how to do the tie outs. I reinforced my corners and found that to be the most challenging part it was very time consuming
    Last edited by jrs62284; 06-30-2013 at 22:53. Reason: not sure why the link for the top quilt isn't populating

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