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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazilla View Post
    I am in the process of evolving( I call it this cause I'm not buying new gear I don't need, I am making gear lighter. Or at least that's how I explain it to my wife)
    I see a MacCat and a Rayway in my future
    If you can make a Ray quilt, you can make a BlackCat!
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    Rhino, after seeing your posts on several forums, I think you're misunderstanding what the SPE does. If you have a 60" wide pad, you don't need the SPE.

    You could cut that pad in half to 40"x60" and use a pillow for head/neck insulation...then you'd have 1.5" of CCF insulation and still have plenty of coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye View Post
    Has anyone tried a Clark North American and a Hennessy Explorer Deluxe? I had a Hennessy and want to start using a hammock again. By the time I get a Hennessy and a underquilt the cost of a Clark looks good. I live in the NorthEast and camp in the Spring and Fall when I go.
    Does this model have the weather shield and pockets underneath? If so, forget about all the extra under pads and other stuff and just get a small close cell foam pad. I use what one of my old packs used as a backboard and have stayed plenty warm in temps in the 20's.
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    I have a Ray Way quilt my wife and best friend made for me. I sold my Hennessy and KA underquilt last year. Now I am Kicking my own *** for selling them! I saw the Clark on the web and like the weather shield and larger tarp.

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    I got my gear on route to me this week. It should be 20-30 degrees at night for me to test out over the weekend. I like the CJH NA for the under pockets and top load ruggedness. I'll cut the 3/4 pad to fit and wrap around the shoulders and legs to give me room to roll then wrap that with a fleece or cotton sheet just for comfort/moisture. I'll stuff the pockets with inflated zip locks and cloth, then with a 10 degree bag I should be gold.

    I was think of the SPE as well just to put OVER the 3/4 pad to get to the 0 or lower mark. I know unless I want to go real low I don't need a pad AND an SPE. However, I might hate the pad so ...

    Having never been in a hammock, I gotta start someplace.

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    I ordered a new Hennessy Explorer Ultralite yesterday. I am back to hanging again! I still have my RayWay. Now I need a larger tarp! JRB or MacCat?

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    The SPE doesn't provide any insulation...it doesn't help you get any lower. It's just a panel of 1.1 oz DWR.

    It holds insulation so it's easier to manage multiple pads and insulate the shoulders/hips...but if you're already using a wide pad, your shoulders and hips are already insulated. SPEs are made to accept 20" wide pads...if you try to put a wider pad in there it won't work right. And if your pad already covers your shoulders and hips b/c it's 30+" wide, the SPE won't offer any benefit.

    (A 22-24" wide pad might work ok if it's thin, but they're designed for pads 20" wide and ~3" thick.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye View Post
    I ordered a new Hennessy Explorer Ultralite yesterday. I am back to hanging again! I still have my RayWay. Now I need a larger tarp! JRB or MacCat?
    MacCat seem to be the preferred tarp around here. But even a Speer rectangular tarp would be better than what Hennessy puts on his hammocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    MacCat seem to be the preferred tarp around here. But even a Speer rectangular tarp would be better than what Hennessy puts on his hammocks.
    From what little I've seen personally, I think the Hennessy hex tarp is probably adequate coverage. It just doesn't pitch very tightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    From what little I've seen personally, I think the Hennessy hex tarp is probably adequate coverage. It just doesn't pitch very tightly.
    You mean the bigger tarp he sells or the regular one?

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