Nice work, another awesome vote here!
Nice work, another awesome vote here!
Yet another AWESOME vote here as well. Now I just have to keep my eyes peeled for a commercially available version.
That is insanely cool! I can't wait to see the views from inside.
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Very nice and cool looking. I hope the dynamic testing works for you.
Looks like this will be great for all bridge hammocks.
Are you saying that the hammock needs to be attached to the tarp? Using the both doors rolled up...
-If so, does the hammock need to be loaded to be stable if the wind picks up?
-If not, will the tarp still be stable without a load in the hammock?
This is a very interesting tarp to me, that's why I ask.
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Kudos to everyone who tailors tarps to achieve something different than what a pair of joined rectangular pieces of fabric will do.
Thanks everyone!
Glad you caught that gargoyle. The ogee tarp was a major inspiration for the design.
Before I answer your questions Florida, let me start by saying that I basically bought a clark NA to design this thing around. In the initial stages of the design I actually envisioned using a bridge hammock but decided to go with the clark because of the added features like pockets and integrated weather shield. Regardless, I have not yet tested it with other hammocks to see how they would integrate. More testing! That said:
1)Yes, when using the side poles, the tarp does need to attach to the hammock for support, otherwise they don't hold their shape and splay out all daddy long legs. I use 1/2" grosgrain from the hammock tie out to the tent pole ends. Whoa, just envisioned a possible porch mode if I make the grosgrain adjustable length. Let it out and it could just swing up porch style. More testing!
-The other option is to leave the side poles at home, guy out the 4 corners, and use a structural ridgeline to support the top pole. Then you achieve full stability without being attached to the hammock, even with both doors open.
2)First off, in tie out mode, again the hammock load is irrelevant. In full pole mode, as long as at least one door on each side is anchored, the hammock load doesn't mean much. When both doors are rolled up, however some load in the hammock seems necessary but it doesn't seem to take much. Around 25 lbs in the pockets of my clark was plenty to keep it very stable but I should have tried just leaving sleeping gear in the tent to see how that little weight effects it. I imagine that the lower from the central pivot axis you can get the weight, the less weight you will need. More testing!
-Also something that I didn't test but occurs to me now is that the end doors (beaks?)offer stability to the tent poles as well. So, I have them together on one tie out but I imagine that if you crosshatched both doors with ground tie outs. The crosshatch would stabilize the tent pole ends and keep them from shifting. I think this would make hammock load irrelevant as well.
-I did manage to do some slight wind testing using a big shop fan and this thing is aeroDynamic. The wind just seems to slide off of it and with everything tied out on bungees, the slight give makes it more able to duck and dodge the wind. I see a video in my future. I guess I need to learn another new skill.
I would love to fractalowl. I haven't played with cuben yet!
You never know labrador. We'll see how field testing goes.
Keep the feedback coming. its giving me ideas!
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Very good. Keep it up and tweek and poke until you get the bugs out.
Another question. Are the ends, beaks, basically closed at all times? If so, could be used for a storage area with a bugnet shelf.
Or, a gear loft suspended under the hammock to provide that lower center of gravity weight your looking for when your not in the hammock.
Good stuff and definitely get some film going.
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The (let's just call them) beaks can go any way that seems clever basically. Closed, they do offer some structural support to the poles. I did try them attached to the pole ends. it looked like this:
I'm not clear on what the bugnet shelf would look like but I can imagine rigging up storage up front. Especially suspended from a structural tarp ridgeline.
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Very nice job sir.
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