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    3 Season + 1 Season = 4 season ?

    I was wondering if it's possible to attach two KAQ's to your hammock. Specifically one 3 season and one 1 season to make the hammock usable during winter?

    Or is it necessary to buy one 3 season upgraded to 4 season ?

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    Stacking any quilts can be tricky....keeping the outer quilt from compressing the inner quilt can be tricky. The net gain of stacking quilt is usually not as warm as a dedicated warmer quilt would be. However if you need a 1 season and a season with the occasional use in winter then you would get more functional use that way than the dedicated 4 season option. The 4 season quilts are great for winter but not so much for when the weather is warmer.
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    Thank you very much for this answer. I felt almost dumb asking the question yesterday since it seemed logical, in my mind, that obviously the quilts would be stackable. I'm very glad I asked

    Living in Scandinavia, our summer night temperatures rarely exceed 15C/59F and are more often closer to 10C/50C. So a quilt is definitely necessary year round. I bought a Clark NX-250 for this reason, since I hoped the pockets underneith would be sufficient during summer, but alas the foot end part of the hammock with no pockets are far too cold.

    So I guess what I would need is a 3/4 UQ with light insulation for the footend part of the hammock during summer and a 3 season full length UQ during spring and fall and then test to see if adding stuff to the Clark pockets and the 3/4 UQ with lighter insulation as well as using the full length 3-season UQ together, would function during winter.

    I've never spent as much time and energy figuring out how to sleep before in my life :P

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    You may want to reconsider the UQ for the foot end, and just try a partial pad for your feet. This is much less expensive, and can be used in the colder temps with the full length UQ when it gets colder to extend your full UQ's range. It can also be slid up under your butt if you get CBS (cold butt syndrome). Also the pad has other uses such as a seat.
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    What I've done to get 4 season warmth from my 3 season KAQ is slip a vapor barrier between the quilt and the hammock. I found a reflectix emergency bed roll for $5 or $6 and used that to take my quilt down to 8 degrees. I also threw a 30 degree sleeping bag over the top of my 3 season New River to add to the warmth. A bit over kill but it worked for car camping, not something I'd carry on hike. For hiking I brought the reflectix bed roll and a winter sock to assist in maintaining my warmth.

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    I fiddled around a bit with my 20° and 40° Incubators. Stacking them was much more difficult than it sounds - lots of shifting around, getting in and out, adjusting, etc. Not something I would really trust while out in the cold.

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    stacking top quilts would be doable though...

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    Thanks for all the replies. I especially like the reflective sheet idea

    Regarding using a pad for my legs, I'm having difficulties imagining it would stay in place. I don't swivel around in my sleep that much but I'm not laying perfectly still either. Maybe I'm just over thinking things, but I just can't see it staying in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latt View Post
    Thanks for all the replies. I especially like the reflective sheet idea

    Regarding using a pad for my legs, I'm having difficulties imagining it would stay in place. I don't swivel around in my sleep that much but I'm not laying perfectly still either. Maybe I'm just over thinking things, but I just can't see it staying in place.
    I put the pad inside the foot box of my quilt and it stays in place. Occasionally I have to adjust it. If I have a double layer hammock, I put it between the layers. I never have had too many problems. If your feet get cold just readjust the pad.

    I have also found that having a jacket wrapped around the foot of the hammock really helps with cold feet. Use the pad and jacket and see how it works out for you.

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    Good idea. Thanks!

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