Sock and/or Tarp and/or UQP?

[MaverickNH]

Wondering what thoughts are on using a sock and/or fly and/or UnderQuiltProtector for winter when wind/snow are expected? WB Travel Sock and WB Superfly are my kit. UQP TBD, but of ripstop DWR nylon.

Sock or UQP I'd think +/- tarp?

[MaverickNH]

Must be a stupid noobie question, or I phrased it wrong...

If I'm using a sock, when best to use a tarp too, if ever? (WBBB & SuperFly, in particular).

[D Ring]

The other night my boy used a Super Shelter with no tarp and was fine. I used a tarp though to help with the wind. I am sorry I do not know but know the wind will be stopped some by the tarp.

[flyhang]

If you are going to have any kind of precipitation, then you will need the tarp to shed the water since the travel sock is not water proof.

[pgibson]

Sock or UQ Protector both equal tarp if any moisture is possible....at least have the tarp ready to go up. I hate putting up the tarp if I don't absolutely need it. But if it rains or snows then your going to need the tarp...

The reverse of that is that you will use the tarp in the rain and snow but may or may not use a sock or an UQP...usually you would not use a Sock and a UQP together though...kind of redundant to use those two in combination.

[MaverickNH]

Thanks y'all - I appreciate the advice.

[Floridahanger]

The tarp is always a good idea as was already posted. Even if you don't need it during set up. The sock will be plenty fine by itself with no percipitation.

At least hang the tarp and RL and leave in the tarp skins if you have them. If needed, pull the skins and stake the tarp.

As for UQP, you can always use a poncho if you have one. That way you don't need another piece of equipment, just multi-use what you have.

Now, go out and practice your setup and take pics and/or video for us.

[wgunter]

The tarp is always a good idea as was already posted. Even if you don't need it during set up. The sock will be plenty fine by itself with no percipitation.

At least hang the tarp and RL and leave in the tarp skins if you have them. If needed, pull the skins and stake the tarp.

As for UQP, you can always use a poncho if you have one. That way you don't need another piece of equipment, just multi-use what you have.

Now, go out and practice your setup and take pics and/or video for us.

This is high quality advice. the more uses for a piece of gear the better.

[brooklynkayak]

The tarp adds warmth by reducing convection cooling when pitched to block most of the breeze. It creates it's own little micro-climate.
And as stated, you need it for rain and snow protection. So, yes, highly recommended.

The sock creates another micro-climate, approximately an addition 15 degrees depending.

The amount of warmth gained by a close tarp pitch and the sock can add up to 20 or more degrees of additional warmth. So both are worth the weight in cold weather.

[SnrMoment]

^^^^What he said.

The UQP is under the sock. 6* morning.