I needed help with my set up using Cinch buckles and attaching them to my HH and still be able to Attach my ss using the prursk and hook that was on the stock specta lines. Dutch was nice enough to let me come to his house and even helped me attach them for me. We used a 19 inch loop on buckle which gave enough room. Dutch might be able to explain better if anyone else is doing the same set up...I also had a set or original Dutch clips probably from his first batch that he was excited to see...Thanks again Dutch !!