I bet you can come pretty close, so I'll just go ahead and tell you. But first consider, though this is a compression stuff sack I commonly use, it is not a good one. For one thing, I need at least one more strap around the right end, and it only compresses on the side and not end to end. Plus, it is a heavy PU coated type of bag. I think with a real cs, one I could compress from the ends, especially with some sort of purge valve or one of those Event stuff CSs, I could get this down a good bit smaller, at least another 25%. But even as it is, I think it would work good with a garbage sack or something around it for more WPing and just strapped on the outside of a pack like a pad, if needed for space.
Any way, this is a set up I have spoken of before, and it would work for any number of other set ups. Maybe even better if this was a Bishop style sack.
It contains( drum roll please)
1: 1 HHUL EXPLORER ( larger than some hammocks) without tarp
2: One HHSS with OCF pad ( no over cover)
3: HH kidney and torso pads
4: mini carabiners, one for the RL which has been cut and one on each end in place of prussick hooks so that every thing previously adjusted does not come undone when I quickly stuff it all in this sack, and Hitchcraft thingies
5: one EMS Heat Sheet, at original full size(one person)
6: one 20*F Golite Ultra top quilt
This is not a bad system overall, especially for temps well above the 20s, or wind blown rain or snow, IMO. When I get to camp, I hang the tarp if rainy, pull the foot end rope/huggers out, attache to one tree, walk to other tree and attache, attache side tie outs if desired, and bingo- I am ready to lay down and get in quilt if exhausted.
At break down, untie from one tree, start stuffing in large sack as walk to the other end, finally stuffing the other end in, closing end and compressing if needed. ( I still have a large pack, so I usually don't compress but just stuff down into my pack bottom.) With a reasonably large sack, this really doesn't take very much longer than to just stuff my quilt, especially if I have a top and UQ.
I think a larger sack is a lot more convenient for this type of thing. I have also used this same system with a cinch buckle/webbing set up, which just shaves off that many more seconds or minutes in set up.
I posted this just to show how it works with the SS, and because that is the system I happen to have in a large stuff sack. But no reason why it couldn't work with any hammock or quilt combo. in fact it might stuff down a good bit smaller.
In fact, I have done so with my Pea Pod and Claytor No Net on a trip last fall- all quickly into one stuff sack. I guess it is common to stuff UQ and hammock together so you won't have to re-adjust the UQ again, but I don't know how many include the TQ, or how many do this with the SS.
This is how I take my WBBB down with it's included Bishop sack, but it usually takes me longer with the BB because the sack is so much smaller ( and lighter of course), and naturally I can't include any quilts into the one BB sack, obviously.
So, I think that is not too bad of a set up: <5.5 lbs, fairly small and could be even smaller with a better CS, and including the heavy stuff sack, OCF pads, long HHExp and suspension and TQ. And good for me in some pretty cool and wet weather.
That is one approach among many ways to skin a cat!
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Originally Posted by Cannibal
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