OK thanks for all the tips and suggestions from everybody. I went yesterday and did a bit more shopping and decided to take the plunge and got a HH UL BPA. This morning I stopped at the hardware store and bought some lag bolts w closed eyes. And right now I am hanging in my bonus room (no trees around the house.) My 2 and 5 year old boys are very excited about it and have both spent some time hanging this morning. Now I am in truble because I am going to need more hammocks. I had planned on doing the Hyperlight but REI only had the Backpacker in and I wanted to take advantage of the 20% off anniversary discount. So what's a few more OZ's. Over my BD lighthouse I am still saving over a pound. My wife thinks I am a bit off my rocker but she has felt that way for years It dose not help that in the last two months I have bought a pair of Vibram Five Fingers and put this thing up in her extra room. O well.... If any body is up this way (SW Idaho) give me a holler I would love to get out on the trail with others that have more experience hanging.