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    4th Annual Florida Hang at Buck Lake Ocala FL What I learned

    What a great time!

    If you have never been to a group hang I highly suggest you go. It was my first time to one of these shindigs and not only was it a lot of fun but I also learned a lot. It was also the first time I went camping in January. There are people with so much knowledge to share at these events. I bet even if you are a seasoned camper I am sure you would still leave with a bit of new information. If you are new to the hammock game then this surely is the place for you. Hopefully you can learn from what I did right and what I did wrong.

    I arrived late on Friday night and the closer sites were already taken. My advice is to make it there during daylight to ensure you get a good spot and have light to find a suitable spot. Since this was not my first time setting up my ridge doing it in the dark was not a big deal. I found a spot close to the water. It was a great view but I later was told this meant it was a windier site. I actually did not mind this one bit. In fact I slept with my tarp pulled back so that I could watch the stars. It ended up being about 35 degrees Fahrenheit. It was chilly but I did not suffer.

    Here is what I did wrong. Since I do not own either a top or under quilt, I utilized 4 sleeping bags. That’s right you read correctly 4 of them. I had 4 sleeping bags with two different sizes. I zipped up the first 2 together and stuffed them into the other 2 which were zipped together. Basically it was a hot pocket inside of another hot pocket. This may have been fine if this was a snug fit. It was not snug at all. There was all kinds of space inside both sets of bags. I think my reasoning was that I wanted more room to move side the sleeping bags. I am a bigger fellow and I didn’t believe I would fit ok. As it turns out I later tried a single sleeping bag at home and I fit inside fine. The reason this system is bad is that there was so much room inside the sleeping bags that it made it harder for the bag to retain my body heat. If I had to do it over again I think I would have tried two sleeping bags inside each other.

    The second night was much colder. I believe this night got down to 21 degrees Fahrenheit. However I was much warmer this night. I made a few changes for this to be true. The first thing I change was that I tied my tarp much lower this evening with the ends of my Kelty Noah tarp closed with a twig. This made for somewhat of a door. I believe the lower pitch and the doors helped retain more body heat. I also procured a Therm-a-Rest Z Lite sleeping pad at the gear sale (big hangs are a great place to buy cheap used gear which is another reason you should go). Another camper recommended that I put the pad on a second hammock I had in my car. This meant the pad was sandwiched between two hammocks. I laid one open sleeping bag on top of the sleeping pad beneath my top hammock. I then had the second sleeping bag on my top hammock. I laid the final two zipped together bags on top of this and I slept inside the two top sleeping bags. I have to note that even though it was colder this night I was warmer. The issues had had were that the sleeping bags and pad would move and I would have to adjust during the night. If I had to do this over again I would have ditch one of the zipped together sleeping bags and slept inside of one instead.

    What did I learn? Don’t go hanging in January again without a top or under quilt. I currently have a friend helping me sew an under quilt out of one of the sleeping bags. I plan on making a top quilt from another sleeping bag myself since this one isn’t as difficult (Will post pictures and steps once these are complete). Can you hang with simply sleeping bags and a pad in January? This was Florida people I would not advise doing this up north. It is doable but I do not recommend it. Next year I would show up earlier to spend more time with the other hangers and get a better spot for myself. The gear sale is a great place to pick up new to you equipment for cheap. My final piece of advice is to make sure you are on time to meals. I missed many of them and after enjoying a couple I realized I should have made sure not to miss any at all next year.

    I would like to thank the members who make this hang possible. I would also like to thank everyone who taught me new tips and tricks. Your friendliness and willingness to help was refreshing and demonstrated why people come to these hangs.

    Hangers and warm and delightful folk. I can’t wait to get back out there and hang some more.

    Go ahead and suggest any ways my crude set up could have been improved. Not only am I here to learn but perhaps someone else can also learn from my mistakes.

    -Nook

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    I am glad you got to come this year and learned a few things! My first year (FH1) I used a 20* and a thermarest pad. I froze too! Even though I was a seasoned camper, I was still learning about hammock camping. Like you , I am dialing in my gear. I have since bought underquilts and keep wanting to get warmer rated stuff. I think the humidity in fla plays a factor and makes you colder.

    Thanks for cooking up the sausage Sunday for the pancakes! It was good meeting you!

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    Enjoyed meeting you nookis and thanks for posting your experience. It brought back memories of my first group hang.
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    nookis, you will for make a hanger. To have had the experiences that you had and kept your good attitude says a lot. I hope all goes well with the uq and tq projects. I hope to see you next year if not before.

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    It was good to meet you at FH4 Nookis, I'm glad you gave group hangs a try. And thank you for sharing your experience and your learnings with others.

    PS: PM me if you still want to discuss Turtledog stands. I didn't get your first message until after the hang ended.
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    Recall my first group hang 3 years ago and arriving to the site first with total trepidation. Got the rig hung and awaited the arrival of the others. They began arriving in ones and twos and threes. Meet some great people that hang and have gone to become close friends with them.

    The first night hit 32 F and survived. Probably went into the woods with 40 lbs. From what I've learnt from the forum and members that has been reduced to below 20 lbs. We are always learning out here which just goes to make the experience more enjoyable. At the FH4 my favorite learning experience was the discussion on the pros and cons of socks for sleeping in. Thank you, Paul. I really don't need socks to keep my feet warm, amazing.

    Nookis, it was a pleasure meeting you and look forward to many more.
    Most of us end up poorer here but richer for being here. Olddog, Fulltime hammocker, 365 nights a year.

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    Senior Member Timberrr's Avatar
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    Oh yeah, Gumbo and I froze at FH1 too. We were just in sleeping bags too. Lows go to 28*.
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    One of the things a few of us who remembered the First Annual Florida Hang commented on was how impressed we were with the fortitude and attitude of the newer hangers at this years hang. Then we had a good laugh reminiscing hearing cursing and car doors slamming at the First Annual Hang.

    I am not sure how many we lost, but I think quite a few bailed out on us. I will be the first to admit, I was cold, very cold! And my poor kids were on the ground, so I assume they were colder still! ::

    It was great meeting you! Thanks for jumping in and helping. Its everyone doing their part that makes hangs so great! Hopefully our paths will cross again soon.
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    Nookis, I'm sorry I can't put a face to the trail name. There were a lot of new faces there and I didn't get everyone's names. Hopefully, I'll get to see you at the Sherpa Hang or another hang soon.

    My first group hang was FH2 that hit a low of 25*F. I too used a pad and SB, but my SB was used as a peapod around my rig instead of just me in it. I was warm except my feet.

    This year, I used my synthetic 3/4 UQ and synthetic TQ. After adjustments from the first night, I was warm thereafter except my feet again. I just can't keep them warm below 30*F it seems.

    Until you get your quilts made, you can use your double zipped SB setup like a peapod or sock. Just make sure both ends can close or cinch up to keep the heat in.

    And, I like the lights and end table. Just good Florida style.

    See you on the trail.
    Enjoy and have fun with your family, before they have fun without you

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