To get this back on track a bit. I hope to use these next weekend. I should have my MacCat clone done by then. I am making two version a deluxe version and a micro version. I will be able to test them out then. I will make sure I take pics. I will also be testing my home made rolled hammock too, along with the GG pad. This will be one experimental weekend. I am thinking of going to Shenandoah, but I may just make due with Pocahontas (it is much closer). It will most likely be a 3 nighter.