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    Anyone used an Exped MultiMat as bottom insulation?

    Hey guys,

    I'm very pleased to announce that my first hammock has arrived (wbbb xlc 1.1 dbl)! I will be trying out some pad configurations during the rest of this winter, but I'm not committing to an UQ until I commit to hanging in general. So I would like to put that purchase off until next winter.

    I have done winter camping quite often down to low teens and have lots of ground dwelling gear. I intend to try my Klymit Static V insulated pad as well as my Thermarest Ridgerest Solite XL and see what kind of success I have hanging with them. I have been looking for a way to add some side insulation. I was considering trying an ENO hotspot but a lot of people didn't find much cooler weather success so I'm still looking. I stumbled across the Exped Multimat and thought it would make for a decent supplement to one of my pads for really cold weather as well as add some side insulation. It only has an r.value of .9 but it is 39 inches wide and quite thin. I'm hoping it will wrap the shoulders and supplement my other pads in winter and possibly be its own bottom insulation in the warmer weather where insulation is still needed. I also like that it can be used as a groundcloth or sit pad, overall being quite versatile.

    I searched and haven't seen it talked about in roughly 5 years so I was wondering if anyone had any first hand experience using one lately (they released a newer model since the last thread was active as well)? If not I will be reviewing it here when I'm able to try it out

    Thanks for any insight!

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    I have used the gossamer gear 1/4 inch wide CF pads down to the low 20F's for years. I find a 30" width is what I need for side insulation (and wind block) so the 39" wide Exped MultiMat should work great.
    Also, I need to stack 2 pads when below the mid 30F's (my HH backpacker is 48" wide and a 30" pad stays in place). The inside pad can be narrower. The Bug screen is a big plus in the winter for wind deflection and some heat retention.
    I think that Pads are quite reliable no matter the weather.
    Try what you have in the safety of your back yard, establish the limits, and then go from there.
    P.S. Don't under estimate the use of a hot water bottle when pushing the limits of your equipment - it has saved me several times with unexpected temp drops.
    Almost forgot - pads get wet from condensation/vapor barrier easily. I always wrapped my pad in flannel (or cotton tee shirt) to absorb the moisture - just air it out the next day. This keeps the sleeping bag dry.
    Last edited by oldpappy; 02-16-2014 at 14:17. Reason: Add info
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    Quote Originally Posted by loghangin View Post
    I searched and haven't seen it talked about in roughly 5 years so I was wondering if anyone had any first hand experience using one lately (they released a newer model since the last thread was active as well)? If not I will be reviewing it here when I'm able to try it out

    It is very thin, but could help with wind protection and a bit of insulating value around your shoulders.
    I just bought a MultiMat (mostly for tent camping) but haven't used it yet, so I'm interested in how it works for you.

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    I have, usually folded in half to double the insulation. It's a very versatile item like that. If you get two, you can snap their edges together and have it around you as a wind-blocking pod sort of thing too.

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    How much does this mat weigh? On REI's website it says 12 oz. The Exped video on REI's site says 19 oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyCamper View Post
    How much does this mat weigh? On REI's website it says 12 oz. The Exped video on REI's site says 19 oz.
    I just weighed mine with my cheap digital hook scale.
    Mat only is: 230g or 0.53lbs (8 oz?).
    No doubt it will get heavier when it is damp and dirty, not brand new.
    Probably not a piece of gear for the gram counters, though....

    From the Exped website:
    Specs

    R-Value:
    1.20
    Length:
    200 cm
    Width:
    100 cm
    Thickness:
    0.20 cm
    Weight Mat:
    310 g
    Weight Packsack:
    30 g
    Packed height:
    51 cm
    Packed diameter:
    11 cm


    So, I guess my scale needs calibration.... ;-)

    EDIT: Got out my digital 'postal' scale and re-weighed the mat (BTW, my previous weight was with the stuffsack tucked into the mat...)
    Updated actual weight for mat + sack:
    281 g or 9.9 oz
    Maybe Exped is weighing the cardboard and plastic packaging?

    It is wet and windy outside; obviously I don't have enough to do!

    BTW: The stuffsack is a)very lightweight fabric and b)generously sized, so there is no struggle to get a loosely folded mat into the sac.
    Last edited by VictoriaGuy; 02-16-2014 at 19:19. Reason: Added info

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    For those who don't like metric . . . Also from Exped website.

    Temperature:
    46 °F
    R-Value:
    1.20
    Length:
    79 in
    Width:
    39 in
    Thickness:
    0.08 in
    Weight Mat:
    11 oz
    Weight Packsack:
    1 oz
    Packed height:
    20 in
    Packed diameter:
    4 in
    Warranty:
    0 years
    MSRP:
    $49.00
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    Mine weighs 12oz on my digital scale and works great.

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    See my review here that includes a fair amount of discussion about using it in a hammock:

    http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...0Kurt%20Papke/

    I did a 3-day backpack in the Grand Canyon a few weeks ago and took both my Z thermarest and the Multimat. The first night I used the MM as shoulder insulation in my hammock. Worked well. The second night I used it as a ground pad as there were no trees in the area I camped. Works great for that.

    My bottom line after having one for 6 years: best use is when you have a serious possibility of a go-to-ground scenario. Otherwise it is not the lightest option around.

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    Thank you for the input thus far guys. I think the confusion regarding the weight and r value stems from them releasing a new model recently but the video being for the older model. The current weight is 12 oz I believe. The new model also has clips for attaching it to a shelter or staking it out IIRC.

    Even if it doesn't work out the way I envision it for a hammock I think I will be glad I have it in my gear arsenal. even if it is just for ground dwelling

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