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    I have a double layer 1.7

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    the only thing i can think of is that you aren't tying the backup knot nice and tight to the back of the rings and some is sliding through before it finally settles. i hang in each one before it goes out, so would have noticed if i got a batch of nylon webbing or something.

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    It certainly sounds like the straps are slipping through the buckles until it hits the backup knot. When I tie a slippery half hitch behind a ring it usually about 6 inches from the ring. If the straps slip until it hits that hitch, that puts the hammock sitting way lower. Just tie the knot right up against the buckles. If it's something else I'd be very surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwtt View Post
    It certainly sounds like the straps are slipping through the buckles until it hits the backup knot. When I tie a slippery half hitch behind a ring it usually about 6 inches from the ring. If the straps slip until it hits that hitch, that puts the hammock sitting way lower. Just tie the knot right up against the buckles. If it's something else I'd be very surprised.
    Exactly my thoughts. I don't see any way that the webbing itself would stretch enough to make the hammock drop enough to notice. FWIW I have the current black webbing, not the camo webbing. The only time I've had the hammock drop was when I didn't properly secure the half hitch behind the tri-rings. As already mentioned it needs to be tight and butted right up to the buckles or it will slip.

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    yes, it should be tied so you're almost pulling it into the rings as you tighten it down. pull hard on the loop and toward the hammock.

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    Any chance your straps are sliding down the tree from where you put them?

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    This isn't a deal breaker for me. I'll swap out the suspension webbing and see what happens, but I am cinching the knot down onto the rings.

    I use the usual stopper knot (I don't know the common name of it) and pull it tight against the tri-rings, then I tie another knot behind that one and pull it toward the first knot to hold the excess webbing. When I tie off the first stopper knot, I put most of my weight on it and it is pulled pretty tight against the rings.

    If it were an issue with the knot settling in, wouldn't that go away after sleeping in the hammock for 8 or so hours? My drop in height occurs over a period of days until I'm practically inches from the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminated View Post

    The stock suspension webbing stretches. A lot. Friday, at lake murray, I hung my hammock as normal. tested it out, adjusted it and was satisfied it was the perfect height. Not to hard to get into, not too hard to get out of.

    When I woke up saturday morning, I was considerably closer to the ground. Well, I've got the straps as high on the tree as I can reach (I am short) and the ridge line is as taught as I am comfortable with. I left the hammock alone and didn't adjust the suspension and sunday, I woke up about 6 inches from the ground.
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    I've had that problem in the past with both a Speer and a Hennessey. Many mornings my butt was touching the ground. I've weighed between about 235 and 245 lbs during that time. The fabric on my first Speer hammock was starting to fail - tiny separations in the fabric between the rip-stop grid.

    This is what I've done to solve it. I don't know for sure what fixed it but I think changing the tree huggers and using a heavier fabric for the hammock helped a lot:
    • I use wider, 1.5 inch, polypropylene webbing from Seattle Fabrics for the tree huggers
    • I made a hammock using 2.5 oz/yd nylon supplex from Ed Speer
    • I make at least one wrap all the way around the tree so that the tree huggers don't slip in the night
    • I use Dyneema lines to suspend the hammock
    • I do plenty of wraps to make sure that the Dyneema doesn't slip during the night


    I don't have a problem with sagging during the night any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminated View Post
    My drop in height occurs over a period of days until I'm practically inches from the ground.
    This is only funny because of my weight, but is it possible the trees are just getting closer together?

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    All right Ill settle this question for ya.

    I did see a problem with yer rig at the Hot Springs hang, I didnt say any thing cause I figured you would work it out on yer own.
    But as a friend Ill lend you some of my worldly knowledge.




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