For those of you that have switched over from sil to spinn, besides weight have you found any other benefits? From what i've read the spinn does not stretch as much, anything else? When I felt it, it seemed stiffer. Does it make it more difficult to get a tight pitch, is it noisier, more susceptible to puncture, water resistance?
Yeah, mine is noisier if I don't get a tight pitch, but I find it easier to get a tight pitch so it may cancel out. The "no stretch" means that once it is pitched I don't have to readjust later like I did with the sil. Love mine!Originally Posted by Oms
-SlowBro
What is SpinnUL fabric and how is it different that silnylon?
Asher
Spinntex might be polyester ripstop. Probably one of the reasons it has minimal stretching after pitching. No need for tarp tensioner reduced the weight a bit more. Higher pitch/frequency maybe louder sound of the rain drops bouncing off the tarp on the Spinn. Durability debate. Some people have noted less long term durability. Have had a variety of windblown smaller objects (finger thick branches, acorns) hit the Spinn tarp without any damage. Spinn should be more UV resistance if it is a polyester. Concern over the friction wear reducing water proofing and structural integrity has me skinning the Spinn tarp bit more careful. I sort of roll it up around the ridgeline like furling a sail around a boom. Newer tarp. See what happens after 50+ nights & UV exposure.
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Noel V.
it's like wax paper, but waterproof.
like slowbro said, it's also like ron popiel. set it and forget it. no readjustment needed on mine. no misting through either, that i've noticed anyway. it's also more expensive. it's only noisy, like slowbro also said, if it's not pitched tight.
i recommend brian's from oes
Yea i will get one someday, what Shug said about the water proofing failing when you rub it against itself in your hand worries me. I would need my tarp to last miles and miles, as It would be for thru hiking. Anyone know about how the durability is for sil vs spinn?
Did I say that???? Actually have never had any issues with my silnylon tarps. Sure hope not to.
Shug
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I was talking about spinnaker, not sil. I went with sil for now because of the issue with the waterproofing coming off by wear and tear on the spinnr's.
Warbonnetguy and myself have also preformed that little experiment with the same results. But, I don't think it is a fair comparison. My Spinn MacCat has well over 100 nights of stuffing and unstuffing and it is still as waterproof now as it was the day I got it. I shove it into the outer mesh pocket of my ULA packs, stakes and all and have yet to have a problem.
Very easy to get a tight pitch and it doesn't stretch, so there is no need for the weight of tensioners. It is waterproof, unlike sil. Sil will allow the water to pass through if there is contact made on the inside; to me, that makes it not waterproof, only resistant. I can rub a paper towel on the inside of my Spinn tarp during a downpour and have it come back bone dry. Try that with sil. The noise factor can be an issue. If it's pitched tight and a small twig or nut falls from up high, it can sound like a snare drum. Takes very little time to get accustomed to it. Then of course, it's lighter...which is nice.
IMO it is a MUCH better material for tarps than sil. It might wear out in a couple more years, but I'll just order another one with a big stupid grin on my face while I'm doing it.
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Yea I just figured sil had more durability, was thinkign about the distance on a thru hike and needed the durability. But if what you say is true, i will get a spinn for my wife for her setup.Warbonnetguy and myself have also preformed that little experiment with the same results. But, I don't think it is a fair comparison. My Spinn MacCat has well over 100 nights of stuffing and unstuffing and it is still as waterproof now as it was the day I got it. I shove it into the outer mesh pocket of my ULA packs, stakes and all and have yet to have a problem.
Very easy to get a tight pitch and it doesn't stretch, so there is no need for the weight of tensioners. It is waterproof, unlike sil. Sil will allow the water to pass through if there is contact made on the inside; to me, that makes it not waterproof, only resistant. I can rub a paper towel on the inside of my Spinn tarp during a downpour and have it come back bone dry. Try that with sil. The noise factor can be an issue. If it's pitched tight and a small twig or nut falls from up high, it can sound like a snare drum. Takes very little time to get accustomed to it. Then of course, it's lighter...which is nice.
IMO it is a MUCH better material for tarps than sil. It might wear out in a couple more years, but I'll just order another one with a big stupid grin on my face while I'm doing it.
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