For winter camping only, I might lean towards an enclosed winter-tarp instead, rather than an over-cover. It will give better overall blocking protection, without the same condensation considerations.
For winter camping only, I might lean towards an enclosed winter-tarp instead, rather than an over-cover. It will give better overall blocking protection, without the same condensation considerations.
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Winter Tarp like the Superfly or the Speer winter tarp? I've been out of the scene for a few months, so I'm not up to date on the latest and greatest.
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superfly design has changed as of late, 4 same-sized overlapping doors that are removeable via button snaps. blue or dark grey sil
I am with Cannibal on the Ultra, only because it would give you better ability to mostly close one end to block wind and/or wind driven snow. Though if you are going to be using some sort of hammock cover, that will allow a smaller tarp. But blocking that wind is of utmost importance.Originally Posted by WrongTurn
The JRB MWUQ is about as superb a piece of gear as you will find. This type of design requires minimal adjustment for a gap free fit, as there is no worry about compressing the down. It has a max low "rating" of, I think, 0-10*F. (assuming wind is dealt with). I did fine with it in a dbl layer 1.7 BB in a VERY windy 18*F. On a night with far less wind, I was fine @ 11*F in a JRB bridge. So far I have never felt a cold spot head to toe. Although, I do add a Grip Clip and a bit of shock cord on the foot end with the WBBB. This goes over the BB ridge line and I think it helps prevent any gap on the foot end, though if I was good enough at adjustment I might not need this. This is not needed with the JRB bridge hammock.
That single layer 1.7 BB will probably be fine and save you some weight. But if you plan on camping at zero, and then there is wind chill if you can't get a perfect tarp pitch or sheltered site.... or If the night is way colder than the forecast low of zero, you might need a pad. One advantage to a PeaPod is the nearly unlimited ability to add clothing, space blankets or pads( or dry leaves or whatever) between pod and hammock to way extend the rating. A no gap design ( JRB MWUQ, Speer Snugfit, WB Yeti) probably won't work well with this approach, since the "snug" fit would compress any loft you added.( Though I think adding a VB/space blanket and/or a light, flexible pad might work OK, need to experiment) But if you have to add a pad to the hammock on a rare super cold night, a double layer sure would make that easier. Although, it could also be done with a Speer SPE for little cost and 3 or 4 oz.
The ORM should be fine, especially with warm clothing. Though your size should always be considered, especially with a quilt. Just make sure whatever you get is wide enough and long enough for you. I guarantee you don't want any drafts when you turn over at zero!Also, consider a separate hood, a major warmth booster! Lacking that, make sure the quilt is long enough to pull over your head ( when side sleeping only), forming a faux hood with breathing hole.
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Welcome back, Wrongturn! I once spent a number of years not being able to hike, now I'm back and I know how good it feels. I sure like my Speer Winter Tarp. It will be a hard choice between all the good ones out there now.
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IMHO: A hammock sock adds (easily) 10 degrees to whatever set up you have, and a "WInter tarp" that you can close up adds at least 5 degrees.
I think the gear you have selected should do fine for at MtRogers. My tarp is a 13.5' x 10' from Brian/OES. I can close off both ends easily & still have room to move about under my tarp.
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Warbonnet is goodTook a serious downturn with my health and sold off all my hammock gear. Now I'm starting over, and looking to spend around 1000 dollars to get back into the game. Looking for a setup that will be sufficient for the Mt. Rogers hang in January. I still have my pack, cook ware, and all that jazz.
I need an underquilt, quilt, hammock, and tarp. I have my ENO single, but honestly I hate it.
I was thinking JRB Old Rag, JRB Mount Washington.
Can't decide on Hammock or Tarp.
Have honestly been thinking about going back to ground and using JRB quilts
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