Outfitting for a multi-day trip (from almost scratch)

[Red Cinema]

All comments look good. I don't see anyone mentioning SPE for the pad you're using--stuffing clothes might help with the shoulder cold spots, but a pad extender is more certain. Enjoy your run!

[Loki]

Might consider mixing up your tent stake styles.
Ground conditions vary. Sometimes Groundhogs are needed. Other times Titanium shepherd's hooks are just fine.
I'll usually carry a few each of several styles and weights. Use the groundhogs for windward side and lighter options for doors and leeward side.
Tying off to a tree or rock or placing a heavy rock over the tieout line (just inside the stake) helps in windy conditions too.

[Stormstaff]

What you've described matches about 90% of my current main gear and accessories.

You haven't mentioned where you'll be going and what the weather might be like there. If your pad is a standard 20" tenting width, or the slightly wider 24", and you move around at night then you could definitely have some cold spots. Stuffing some extra clothing around yourself can help, as can bundling up before bed. Your bottom insulation is definitely your weakest and fiddliest link in that setup depending on the temps at night. The DL hammock helps reduce pad movement, but they still have a tendency to squirm out from under you at night.

As OutandBack suggested, be sure to try it outside near home before you get out on the trail. You might find upgrading or supplementing that bottom insulation to be less of a luxury than a must-have.

A couple other thoughts:
1. When shopping for the Dutchware consider getting 4 Tato Gear Tarp Door Hooks and mini cord locks. Those in conjunction with shock cord guy lines on your doors and small prusik loops on your corner tie-outs of your SF (for the opposing door to hook to) mean no need for door stakes when battening down in storm mode. Another prusik on the SF side pull-out guy line allows the doors to be pulled back when open or porch mode. Pretty much you'll never really need a dedicated stake per door flap.
2. Because of item 1 above, 12 stakes is probably overkill. I bring 10 and have only rarely used all of them. 6-8 is the norm I use assuming there are no other suitable guy line anchors nearby (rocks, trees). You can also often share a stake on one side or the other between the tarp and WBBB bug net tie-out.
3. MountainGoat's snake skins are awesome. They do such a good job of packing things up that I leave all my guy lines attached to my SF tarp with no tangling during packing/unpacking. The only thing that tended to tangle were the longer side pull-out guy lines. To fix that I sewed a couple really small drawcord pouches out of bug netting that are permanently attached to my side pull out guy line. I then stuff the long tangle prone side pull out lines into their own pouches before packing everything up into the snake skins.

Any pics of this? I'm a little slow at times. I have an Old Man Winter tarp that this would probably work on also and save me a couple of stakes

All comments look good. I don't see anyone mentioning SPE for the pad you're using--stuffing clothes might help with the shoulder cold spots, but a pad extender is more certain. Enjoy your run!

+1 on the SPE with a pad.

[DanglingModifier]

Any pics of this?

Sure thing. I was looking for an excuse to air out the tarp from my last trip anyway.

Tarp setup showing overlapping doors and small pouch hanging on side that holds side tie-out guy line to reduce tangles when packed in snake skins:
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Close up of shock cord tarp door guy line with door hook attached to prusik on opposing corner D-ring:
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Tarp door fully open connected to prusik on side tie-out guy line with mini cord lock that allows adjusting the shock cord line barely visible:
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View from inside with tarp doors fully closed, overlapping, and hitched to opposing tarp corner D-rings (no hammock under tarp):
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Door hooks, shock cord, and mini cord locks can all be purchased from your neighborhood Dutchware outlet. The prusiks are just small loops made with a double fisherman knot. I'm using braided mason line for cordage on the tarp right now until I bother swapping it out with some recently purchased Zing-It. The masons line has worked great for me so far considering its inexpensive price, but I find it nearly impossible to splice.

[Stormstaff]

Sure thing. I was looking for an excuse to air out the tarp from my last trip anyway.

Tarp setup showing overlapping doors and small pouch hanging on side that holds side tie-out guy line to reduce tangles when packed in snake skins:
IMG_2961.jpg

Close up of shock cord tarp door guy line with door hook attached to prusik on opposing corner D-ring:
IMG_2962.jpg

Tarp door fully open connected to prusik on side tie-out guy line with mini cord lock that allows adjusting the shock cord line barely visible:
IMG_2963.jpg

View from inside with tarp doors fully closed, overlapping, and hitched to opposing tarp corner D-rings (no hammock under tarp):
IMG_2969.jpg

Door hooks, shock cord, and mini cord locks can all be purchased from your neighborhood Dutchware outlet. The prusiks are just small loops made with a double fisherman knot. I'm using braided mason line for cordage on the tarp right now until I bother swapping it out with some recently purchased Zing-It. The masons line has worked great for me so far considering its inexpensive price, but I find it nearly impossible to splice.

Very nice. I don't have D rings but I could still do something similar on the grosgrain loop. Now, if I'd only seen this before I placed my Dutch order last week.

[Flatliner]

On the tent stakes, if you do decide to buy the Y style, I purchased a large batch from aliexpress.com (china) and have been happy with them. I did need to debur the drill holes when I added paracord loops but I got enough of them for all our tents and tarps for the cost of one set purchased locally and I was able to get them in different colors than I found locally. I have been using them for 3 or 4 years now without any issue.

[dkurfiss]

Using the 3/4 pad you might want to consider some sort of foot pad along with nice loose fitting wool socks. I find my feet get cold when I am hanging so I stick either a piece of CCF pad or Reflectix under my feet.

[DanglingModifier]

Now, if I'd only seen this before I placed my Dutch order last week.

Don't feel bad. It took me two (three?) orders to get it right myself.

[PTAaron]

For your tarp ridgeline I just want to throw in a plug for a REALLY easy setup using a Dutch hook, a Dutch Stinger, and some Lash-it/Zing-it: https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...rz-awesome-CRL!
Makes for a really quick and easy setup especially with snakeskins on the tarp.

[ampersand]

Man, thanks everybody! This has been really helpful in terms of identifying and filling gaps in my planning.

Using the 3/4 pad you might want to consider some sort of foot pad along with nice loose fitting wool socks. I find my feet get cold when I am hanging so I stick either a piece of CCF pad or Reflectix under my feet.

Definitely. I'm thinking a small piece of Reflectix is the way to go for now, as it'll double as a place to sit (Shug's videos sold me on that idea). I see good arguments for switching to a bigger CCF pad eventually, but for now I hate the bulk.

Sure thing. I was looking for an excuse to air out the tarp from my last trip anyway.

Tarp setup showing overlapping doors and small pouch hanging on side that holds side tie-out guy line to reduce tangles when packed in snake skins:
IMG_2961.jpg

Thanks for posting these so we can better see what you're talking about. Makes it much easier to understand. I don't see the mini cord locks, though. Where are you using those, if at all? Also, are you using 1/8" shock cord or something smaller? The Dutchware site says they'll fit one 1/8" cord or two 3/32". For the life of me I can't figure out why you'd ever run a single length of shock cord through a lock...?

When your doors are open, where are your guy lines attached? I can't really tell from your photo.

Love the small pouch you're using for the pull-out lines.

Might consider mixing up your tent stake styles.
Ground conditions vary. Sometimes Groundhogs are needed. Other times Titanium shepherd's hooks are just fine.
I'll usually carry a few each of several styles and weights. Use the groundhogs for windward side and lighter options for doors and leeward side.
Tying off to a tree or rock or placing a heavy rock over the tieout line (just inside the stake) helps in windy conditions too.

I think this is probably a good call. Wish I'd seen this before ordering eight Groundhogs! Oh well. I'll give me something to fiddle with and perfect.

All comments look good. I don't see anyone mentioning SPE for the pad you're using--stuffing clothes might help with the shoulder cold spots, but a pad extender is more certain. Enjoy your run!

Pad extender definitely seems like a good choice, though I'm going to hold off on that until I can get a few nights' worth of sleep in the hammock. I figure I can suffer the consequences in the meantime.

For your tarp ridgeline I just want to throw in a plug for a REALLY easy setup using a Dutch hook, a Dutch Stinger, and some Lash-it/Zing-it: https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...rz-awesome-CRL!
Makes for a really quick and easy setup especially with snakeskins on the tarp.

Yep, that's almost exactly what I'm thinking I'll go with. My only hesitation is it seems you need to center the tarp as you put it up instead of afterward. I like the idea of making adjustments on the fly (e.g. with prusiks), but I'll probably try this first for simplicity's sake.