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    Senior Member Topplestack's Avatar
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    I'm using a 1.1oz single and I'm about 175. I'm happy with the 1.1 single, but then mine is a DIY and I did not fork out a lot of money for it. The issue is how long do you want it to last?

    As for the Sierras this time of year. I would have no problems going up there with a MacCat Standard. Atleast not this time of the month. Come late August and I might think otherwise, you might get some short hard showers here and there, but nothing that last too long. The big issue this time of year is the wind. You'll want to hang on the lee side as much as possible as the winds especially in the heights can get up into the 40+mph range at times. You'll want to pitch your windward side low to the ground and your hammock close to your tarp ridgeline.

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    I would guess that to have the No Sniveller replace the down jacket you'd have to use it as a poncho liner so that it is protected from rain/snow. Would this be correct? Would having the No Sniv under a rain jacket and tucking the bottom into your pants work? Or possibly just buy the rain jacket so that its a bit oversized?


    Lori - That's a scary story! Reminds me of the time I slept in -15 degree windchill with a half wet down bag. During basic training we were all forced to sleep in below freezing temps without sleeping bags, we'd all huddle up next to eachother and try to shield ourselves from the wind with our canvas shelter halves.

    I really want to have a completely comfortable sleep system (this is my "luxury" item I suppose) while still maintaining a light pack (sub 7-8lbs). I'm a light sleeper, I toss and turn if I'm not comfy. I actually tossed and turned in my bed last night because I fell asleep with my clothes on.

    Anyone have any idea how much insulation the GG Thinlight would provide? (temp) I wouldn't mind having it to use as a sit pad under the hammock or as an emergency sleeping pad (gather up some pine needles under it) if I can't find any trees.

    I was thinking about going lighter than the Conduit with a MLD Prophet (10.8 oz, 2900 ci) or a MLD Exodus (13.8oz, 3600ci).

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    I'm just sayin, last week, if it hadn't been so cold that it snowed, we'd have gotten wind driven rain. I'm totally comfort driven and wanted those doors to close down - I've gotten through some gusty wind in the coast range with that nice large tarp. The wind up there was inescapable; I wandered all up and down and even in the sheltered areas we found, we still had gusts shooting up inside the tent flies. Most of the wind was moving over us and once in a while it would scoot up the granite inside, and nothing you can do about it.

    The Deluxe performed nicely for me - I used a grip clip to close down the foot end over the foot box and crossed the guy lines, keeping most of the arctic blasts out of the hammock - but it was a tad closed in. Which is another concern with me, as I'm claustrophobic and waking up to feeling closed in may result in some severe panicky stuff in the morning. Your Comfort Level May Vary.

    I really didn't mind the snow - it wasn't piling up in drifts, and wouldn't have led to postholing along the trail. But it easily could have been very bad very fast.

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    Has anyone used the No Sniveller in place of a down jacket in cold weather? Please share! : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkpol View Post
    Has anyone used the No Sniveller in place of a down jacket in cold weather? Please share! : )
    I've used it's big brother the Rocky Mountain Sniveler around camp. I stay warm enough when I'm moving, so the only time I really need/want it is once I've stopped moving. They really do a great job of keeping the core warm. Get some of the down sleeves from the Jacks and you've got a very effective, albeit funny looking, down jacket for camp.
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    QUESTION!

    Which would be more durable, the double 1.1 Blackbird or the single 1.7?
    I like the added bonus of being able to put an insulating pad between the 1.1 layers, but if the 1.7 is more durable I'd go with that.
    Thanks.

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    I don't know. The only piece of Warbonnet gear I've been able to wear-out so far is a stuff sack.
    I'd think two layers are better than one regarding wear and tear, but that's just a guess on my part.
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    Has anyone tried bunk beds? My GF and I both want Blackbirds, I was thinking if i helped her up she'd be able to sleep up top.

    If this were (safe) and possible would 1 deluxe maccat be able to cover both of us?


    Nunatak Arc Alpinist - 21 oz weight, 11 oz of down - $387
    Jacks R Better Hudson River - 20 oz weight, 11 oz down - $250

    What is the actual difference? They both have almost the same temperature rating, they both use 800 fill down.
    Any reason to choose the No Sniveller over the Hudson River? Just for the added use of being able to wear it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkpol View Post
    QUESTION!

    Which would be more durable, the double 1.1 Blackbird or the single 1.7?
    I like the added bonus of being able to put an insulating pad between the 1.1 layers, but if the 1.7 is more durable I'd go with that.
    Thanks.
    The 1.7 will definately be more durable for you, but it doesn't mean that the 1.1 won't last you a while either. I like the 1.1 for me, but that is only because I made mine myself for cheap and I go for SUL as much as possible. Doesn't mean I don't carry alot of gear, just what I carry is light. If you are going to fork out the dough for a commercial hammock. Get you one that will last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkpol View Post
    Has anyone used the No Sniveller in place of a down jacket in cold weather? Please share! : )
    This guy used one for 6000 miles:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8A_7ko0an4

    http://www.francistapon.com/Travels/.../CDT-Gear-List

    Francis started out with a 2' baffle No Sniveler, after freezing his a$$ off and phoning JRB, the Rocky Mountain No Sniveler was born and shipped to him post haste.

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