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Drop · 02-19-2007, 18:32

In the local woods that I have been testing out my hammock there is a rockface.

Seeing this reminded me of a picture I saw once of somebody hanging between a rock and a tree so I wondered about adding some nuts to my setup as a backup. (nuts are aluminium wedges on wires that you place into cracks)

I have some nuts so carrying a couple would not be too much of a hassle but I remebered something about the history of climbing which I thought might be of use to non climbing hammockers.
The reason nuts are so called is because the first climbers to use them made them from machine nuts with the threads drilled out and thin webbing tied through them. I was thinking having a couple of drilled nuts and spectra might be a usefull bit of emergency hanging kit.

Drop

TeeDee · 02-19-2007, 18:53

Could you post a link or 2 or 3 to some of these "nuts"?

Thanks

TeeDee · 02-19-2007, 19:18

Also, in thinking about it, it would seem that the "nut" you use, would become tightly wedged and almost impossible to dislodge.

I assume there is a method for doing so?

blackbishop351 · 02-19-2007, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeDee

Also, in thinking about it, it would seem that the "nut" you use, would become tightly wedged and almost impossible to dislodge.

I assume there is a method for doing so?

Nuts are very often left in a climbing face. You could use cams instead, but they're a bit less reliable and definitely more expensive.

Drop · 02-19-2007, 19:51

http://www.mtntools.com/cat/rclimb/nuts/dmm_wallnut.htm

Nut removal after taking a hefty fall can be troublesome, less so from a hang I reckon. Climbers use a dedicated tool as can bee seen in this picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_(climbing) . Basically removal is buy pushing the nut in the direction away from how it got lodged. (or pulling the wire/tape)

Loosing a machine nut would be less of problem finacially but hardly leave no trace.

The ultra traditional version of nuts are 'chockstones' natural occuring jammed rocks in cracks that climbers utilized buy tying a rope or tape around. A suspicious ammount of of these 'naturaly occuring' chock stones started to appear in cracks and finaly climbers gave up the pretence and started to use the metal versions. Theres another possible securing method for hammockers then

I was thinking about cams or friends as well, but I dont have any of my own. Tricams
are potentially more adaptable and I believe the camming design aids in their removal and ablity to deal with straight cracks and horizontal loading.

nigelp · 02-25-2007, 02:57

Hi

During a pitch on open moorland in the UK we used nuts to set up our hammocks between a large boulder and a series of boulders further upslope. The nuts where inserted into some cracks behind the boulder saving the use of a lot of rope or tape. Without them we would have had try and put slings around large slippery boulders.

We have planned two more trips in the future to areas where there are no trees and will need climbing nuts and slings to set up. Why? well it's fun and comfortable to use a hammock in these places!

slowhike · 02-25-2007, 06:41

now that is a cool set-up!!! very creative. thanks.

jakethesnake · 02-25-2007, 10:54

I just did the same thing over the weekend. Did a camp out at Joshua Tree and used a nut to suspend on side of my hammonck and webbing around a rock for the other side. It is very nice to have the option to hang between rock along with trees, trucks ect.

slowhike · 02-25-2007, 17:05

i need to look into that. the place blackbishop & i went to last week end, linville gorge, nc, has lots of opportunities to use those combinations for hanging.

mmendell · 03-01-2007, 08:59

Very interesting thread.

I was just considering having to go to ground on a trip or two this summer, as my primary packing area is high rockies. I would love to be able to pitch above the timber line.

Do those of you who use "nuts" carry a large selection of sizes? What would you recommend? I had actually half-heartedly looked at cams, but the expense, size, and weight quickly eroded my enthusiasm for them.

02-19-2007, 18:32	#1
Drop Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manchester UK Hammock: hook and bag double Tarp: decathlon 3x3m Insulation: snugpak underquilt View my gallery 1 Posts: 115 Images: 1	Nuts (climbing kit) In the local woods that I have been testing out my hammock there is a rockface. Seeing this reminded me of a picture I saw once of somebody hanging between a rock and a tree so I wondered about adding some nuts to my setup as a backup. (nuts are aluminium wedges on wires that you place into cracks) I have some nuts so carrying a couple would not be too much of a hassle but I remebered something about the history of climbing which I thought might be of use to non climbing hammockers. The reason nuts are so called is because the first climbers to use them made them from machine nuts with the threads drilled out and thin webbing tied through them. I was thinking having a couple of drilled nuts and spectra might be a usefull bit of emergency hanging kit. Drop

02-19-2007, 19:51	#5
Drop Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manchester UK Hammock: hook and bag double Tarp: decathlon 3x3m Insulation: snugpak underquilt View my gallery 1 Posts: 115 Images: 1	http://www.mtntools.com/cat/rclimb/nuts/dmm_wallnut.htm Nut removal after taking a hefty fall can be troublesome, less so from a hang I reckon. Climbers use a dedicated tool as can bee seen in this picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_(climbing) . Basically removal is buy pushing the nut in the direction away from how it got lodged. (or pulling the wire/tape) Loosing a machine nut would be less of problem finacially but hardly leave no trace. The ultra traditional version of nuts are 'chockstones' natural occuring jammed rocks in cracks that climbers utilized buy tying a rope or tape around. A suspicious ammount of of these 'naturaly occuring' chock stones started to appear in cracks and finaly climbers gave up the pretence and started to use the metal versions. Theres another possible securing method for hammockers then I was thinking about cams or friends as well, but I dont have any of my own. Tricams are potentially more adaptable and I believe the camming design aids in their removal and ablity to deal with straight cracks and horizontal loading. Last edited by Drop; 02-19-2007 at 19:53.

02-25-2007, 06:41	#7
slowhike Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: winston-salem, nc Hammock: DIY, narrow, top entry, w/ spreader Tarp: DIY w/ pull-outs Insulation: Exped 7 DAM, RMS View my gallery 283 Posts: 7,908 Images: 283	now that is a cool set-up!!! very creative. thanks. __________________ don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

02-25-2007, 17:05	#9
slowhike Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: winston-salem, nc Hammock: DIY, narrow, top entry, w/ spreader Tarp: DIY w/ pull-outs Insulation: Exped 7 DAM, RMS View my gallery 283 Posts: 7,908 Images: 283	i need to look into that. the place blackbishop & i went to last week end, linville gorge, nc, has lots of opportunities to use those combinations for hanging. __________________ don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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02-19-2007, 18:53	#2
TeeDee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Hammock: DIY Bridge Tarp: DIY 10'x11' Suspension: Whoopie Slings View my gallery 283 Posts: 1,555 Images: 283	Could you post a link or 2 or 3 to some of these "nuts"? Thanks

02-19-2007, 19:18	#3
TeeDee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Hammock: DIY Bridge Tarp: DIY 10'x11' Suspension: Whoopie Slings View my gallery 283 Posts: 1,555 Images: 283	Also, in thinking about it, it would seem that the "nut" you use, would become tightly wedged and almost impossible to dislodge. I assume there is a method for doing so?

02-25-2007, 02:57	#6
nigelp Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Forest, UK View my gallery 46 Posts: 77 Images: 46	Hi During a pitch on open moorland in the UK we used nuts to set up our hammocks between a large boulder and a series of boulders further upslope. The nuts where inserted into some cracks behind the boulder saving the use of a lot of rope or tape. Without them we would have had try and put slings around large slippery boulders. We have planned two more trips in the future to areas where there are no trees and will need climbing nuts and slings to set up. Why? well it's fun and comfortable to use a hammock in these places!

02-25-2007, 10:54	#8
jakethesnake Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 32	I just did the same thing over the weekend. Did a camp out at Joshua Tree and used a nut to suspend on side of my hammonck and webbing around a rock for the other side. It is very nice to have the option to hang between rock along with trees, trucks ect.

03-01-2007, 08:59	#10
mmendell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crescent, Iowa Posts: 13	Very interesting thread. I was just considering having to go to ground on a trip or two this summer, as my primary packing area is high rockies. I would love to be able to pitch above the timber line. Do those of you who use "nuts" carry a large selection of sizes? What would you recommend? I had actually half-heartedly looked at cams, but the expense, size, and weight quickly eroded my enthusiasm for them.