Enjoy life's journey, but leave no tracks...
Mahna Mahna...
"The more we hang, the more we have to leave in the end" -Gresh
Yes on the strap. John beat me to it. The tree really does not want that narrow band of high pressure around it.
YMMV
HYOH
Free advice worth what you paid for it. ;-)
I don't know the more PC name but the hangmans noose is a great slip knot that does not harm the rope. I use them all the time, just put something in the neck loop and it will tighten with out pulling though. I'll add a pic.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1359920031.411439.jpg
Carpe noctem!!
All of the above, re: knots, de-rating, splicing, etc is true.
Another truth: there are hundreds of Warbonnets out there with double and triple fisherman's bends in their suspensions. No failures that I know of. So, if you want to tie a loop in your Amsteel, and don't want to learn to splice, it ain't the end of the world.
Dave
"Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self."~~~May Sarton
OldGringo,
I have Acctually had 2 people order our Chain Links specifically to replace knotted loops.
It does happen and amsteel is not best served for a knotted loop application. Splice it if you want to use amsteel or look ropes that are made for knots. Such as Blue Waters Titan cord or spider line. Both are better suited for knots than amsteel is.
Arrowhead Equipment -- For all your hammock camping and backpacking gear
Arrowhead-Equipment.com Visit AHE on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Check out pictures on Instagram
Sign Up for Arrowhead-Equipment Gear News: Click Here
Yep. I will tie a figure 8 in amsteel or spyderline all day long with a reduction to 80% strength, the same as whoopies
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=12319
Its a old thread but unless its been updated, its still valid.
Paul, were those Chain Links ordered to replace knotted loops that failed in service, or simply because the user preferred spliced loops?
I'm not advocating knots, but when I joined HF, and until Opie and you started producing spliced loops, that's all we used. I'm a splicer...you know that. It's cool, it's stronger, no argument. But knotting de-rates all cordage, and Dyneema is just so bloody strong that even when the wll is adjusted for the knots, it is still sufficient for many applications. In this case, the op wanted to make multiple passes around the tree, and then clip the tag end back to the standing part...virtually no load.
I have used knots in the field when splicing simply wasn't an option, and due mostly to laziness, at least one, tied in a light drizzle in Idaho, is still in service. One day...
Last edited by oldgringo; 02-04-2013 at 06:18.
Dave
"Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self."~~~May Sarton
Bookmarks