I'm still using the ring buckles. I think they are a little lighter than the CC buckles. When using the CC's I still have to connect them to the hammock with a cord or rope to keep heavy rain out of my hammock. They both work well for me. Still not sure which ones I'll use on my hike.
Brian
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I just finished my first section with a HH. I used the tree huggers and lashing. But now that I understand the use of the HH and after reading about the rings, I ordered the rings, biners, and strapping to make my modification.
I've been using the rings but just ordered a set of cinch buckles. I use a Claytor hammock without a ridge line so creating a little slack to loosen the buckle is not an issue. I just think the buckles are way more bombproof when it comes to slippage. If I had a ridge line I'd probably stay with the rings. Both are soooo much easier than knots!
Miguel
I am using rings for now. I want to play around with either buckles or clams at some point. Anything that holds and adjusts that easy is going to be hard to beat.
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Both ways are much better than knots!Originally Posted by Miguel
I use the buckles now, even with a ridgeline. I find that when the hammock is empty, it's not a problem to pull the tiny amount of slack needed to release the buckles.
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What's the weight of a full ring buckle setup? Assume big NW trees.
I haven't weighed mine, but the weight would be dependent on the type of webbing you use (nylon-vs-polypro-vs-polyester), how much of it you use, what kind of 'biners you use, the type of cordage you use to tie on to your hammock and what kind of rings you use. The most popular rings thus far seem to be SMC. I didn't switch to the ring buckles because of weight, to be honest. I went to them for ease of use and ease of adjustability. I think they're a great way to go, and, as evidenced by the poll, about half or so of the respondents thus far are using them. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to go to them because everyone else is. I just think, for me personally, at least, that it's an ideal suspension system.
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The rings weigh 0.4 oz each. You need 4, so 1.6 oz for the rings.
If you use a biner to wrap and clip the webbing, then the CAMP Nano wire carabiners are 0.8 oz, you need 2, so again 1.6 oz for the biners.
The weight of the webbing depends on what webbing you use and how much. Most people seem to use about 12' of 1" wide webbing on each end. You can get polypropylene webbing from Ed Speer. He lists 24' at 5 oz. You can use 1" wide polyester webbing. It is much stronger than polypropylene and more abrasion resistant. You can buy tie down straps from Harbor Freight such as these. You will end up with about 12' of polyester webbing rated at 1500 lbf. The webbing is about the same weight as the polypro that Ed Speer sells. You can get polyester rated at over twice the Harbor Freight stuff from here.. It is much thicker, stiffer and heavier, but much stronger also. You can get seat belt polyester from the same place that is 1.5" or 2" wide. Very flexible stuff and very strong. The wider stuff is probably good for trees with tender bark. Weight - don't know.
The Camp USA Nano biners weigh 28 grams or 1oz.
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I'm still using the spectra rope/tree huggers, mainly because I use the Super Shelter and stock HH skins. I'm not sure how I could take the SS on and off very easily once I put a loop/knot in the rope. The openings for the rope passage are pretty narrow. I'm not sure the skins would work easily with that loop, either. Otherwise, I would probably have switched. I guess I could use it with my Speer, though!
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