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    Ring Buckle Supports

    I posted the instructions for making the ring buckle supports I had at Mt Rogers:

    http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGe...eSupports.html

    I like these much better than the Crazy Creek setup...when I use webbing, I'll keep using these until I find something better.

    What do y'all think?
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    I went to the REI here in GSO and got four of those rings the other night. I haven't had a chance to try them out yet, though. Just by feel, I can tell they're lighter than my CC buckles.

    I haven't had the issues with the buckles that you're reporting, really. I just don't ever tighten them down all the way. I think it might be a problem with my ULB though - you have to get an HH pretty tight or the ridgeline/bugnet sags all over you.

    I'll definitely try out the rings, and I may switch over. Since I've already got my support cord tied with two bights, it won't be hard. Basically just directly sub the rings for the buckle.

    I think I'll keep using the separate straps, though. With my "blackbishop's sack", you kinda have to take one off anyway. And it's not a big hassle for setup. Pretty quick and easy, actually. Plus those 'biners are fairly expensive, and I think I'd gain more weight using the rings AND 'biners than I've got now with the buckles.

    Nice directions!
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    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HANGnOUT View Post
    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?
    That's what I do with my CC buckles, and I'll keep doing it unless I just feel like tossing some dough at those lightweight 'biners
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    that looks great jeff. i'm going to give it a try.
    i know what you mean about the cc buckles being hard to loosen some times.
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    With the blackbishop sack, I just leave one end out and wrap it around the bag.

    Maybe it's just habit that I tighten the hammock all the way...I could probably get away with tightening it a bit less. But assuming I don't use the biners for something else during the day, this keeps everything together in one package. Not that it's a huge deal, but I see this as some value added. I guess I could do this with the Crazy Creek buckles if I added the biner too, but I still like the rings better.

    Until I find something else to play with, at least...
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    Looks good. I am going to give it a try soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    With the blackbishop sack, I just leave one end out and wrap it around the bag.

    Maybe it's just habit that I tighten the hammock all the way...I could probably get away with tightening it a bit less. But assuming I don't use the biners for something else during the day, this keeps everything together in one package. Not that it's a huge deal, but I see this as some value added. I guess I could do this with the Crazy Creek buckles if I added the biner too, but I still like the rings better.

    Until I find something else to play with, at least...
    I've thought about making a slightly more complicated sack, too - it would have two chambers with a partition in between. The hammock (and whatever) would go in one, and the extra strap/buckle/rings would go in the other. It'd have drawstrings on both ends too.

    Thoughts?

    PS - Sounds like you're finding lots of uses for 'biners for someone who doesn't hike with them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HANGnOUT View Post
    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?
    That would be lighter, but it would take longer to setup...this is just a wrap and a clip, where the would be a wrap and pull the webbing all the way through, then thread it through the buckle. Not a big difference, really...just preference.

    Maybe I'll get tired of the extra 2 oz for the biners and do it your way, though - that's how I used the Crazy Creek setup.
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    I am planning on taking the strap out from the hammock, around the tree, and back towards the hammock. Then through the rings. I haven't tried this, but it seems like it would work and be pretty easy.

    Any thoughts?
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