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Stewart329
05-17-2015, 14:37
My son and I are going to start section hiking Vermont's Long Trail in June. We've decided we'd like to use hammocks along the way. Having researching hammocks, scouring this forum, youtube and too many web sites to mention I attempted to order a couple Warbonnet Black Birds. The site says they are overwhelmed with orders and have stopped accepting orders until caught up and said possibly mid may.

We're headed out for a few days starting June 18th and I hate to be caught without hammocks so I'm considering ordering HH Deep Jungle's as I really like the idea of the double bottom hammock for bug control and warmth as we'll be using sleeping pads. It can still get down in the 40's here in the evening.

I'm wondering if I should just wait until Warbonnet catches up and risk not having hammocks for the first leg of the trip or bite the bullet and order the Hennessy's?

Thoughts from experienced hangers? This will be a first for us other then for recreational use of hammocks while canoe camping. It also seems like a very big investment with neither us having slept in a hammock before. FYI, I'm 51, 5'5" 200 lb, my son is 15, 5'8" 130lb. I'm open to suggestions and feed back even if its pointing me toward other products. One of the reasons I've decided to go the hammock route is that over the past few years the ground has gotten harder and harder and my hips and shoulders will throb keeping me awake at night while ground camping with a decent ground pad. Hoping a hammock will alleviate some of this.

aka.jobbe
05-17-2015, 14:41
Wait, wait, WAAAAAIIIIITTTT, for good sakes wait.
You won't regret it!!!!!

gunner76
05-17-2015, 14:48
I would wait for the BB

goobie
05-17-2015, 15:05
Rather than be without hammocks, if the blackbirds don't show up in time, I'd get a couple Dutch hammocks to get you two hanging. They're cheap enough to hang onto, or sell them when you get back. Pads will work just fine in single layer hammocks.

BrianWillan
05-17-2015, 17:26
I'd also keep an eye on the for sale forum. Warbonnet Blackbirds come up often, but they do go fast.

Cheers

Brian

Picaro
05-17-2015, 17:42
I have a Blackbird and a Hennessy Explorer. Personally, I find the HH more comfortable.

With a current special you can get the Supershelter for 1/2 price with either the Expedition or Explorer. Then you are fully setup down to 30 is degrees, and the biggest mozzies won't bite through a super shelter. If you go with Hennessy, don't forget to customise for the tarp upgrade to a hex. I find the Supershelter is efficient and fuss free.
But you also get a pad with the Deep Jungle if you want to go that way.

Ridge_Dog
05-17-2015, 17:53
Can't speak on the Hennessey but the WBBB is tops to me. You could always check out Dutch's offerings as well. He has double layer Nylon D hammocks.

http://www.dutchwaregear.com/netless-hammocks.html
I think the double layer is 58.00. Tree straps, whoopies, tarp and a bug net and you are good. Not sure about the budget on your end. Make sure to get Dutch to add continuous loops to those hammocks.

Other offerings for cheaper(cheaper then HH and WB) double layer hammocks are out there.

http://www.simplylightdesigns.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/22_55/products_id/331

http://www.wildernesslogics.com/Night-Owl-Night-Owl.htm

http://www.dream-hammock.com/Hammocks.html

bkrgi
05-17-2015, 18:24
I have the HH DJ XL and Just got the WB Traveler and it is just that much better than the DJ and I would think the WB BB would be the same and worthy of the wait.
But if time is of a essence then nothing wrong with the HH DJ but for go the stock tarp and add the Hex tarp instead using the customize button.

altruistguy
05-17-2015, 18:49
Like many folks, I got my start in a HH and graduated to more evolved hammocks like the WBBB. If your heart is set on the BB (and it sounds like it is), then I recommend you E-Mail and/or telephone Brandon at WB and ask what your chances are of getting the BB in time. Tell him your situation. If he can commit to get it to you in time, he will tell you that and you can count on it. If he is unsure whether he can get it to you in time, he'll tell you that too -- in which case you'll buy the HH.

For what it is worth, I've got extensive experience with all of the following hammocks:

Hennessy Hammock Explorer Deluxe Asym Classic (http://hennessyhammock.com/catalog/specs/explorer_deluxe_asym_classic/)
Warbonnet Blackbird (http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbird/) DL 1.1 w Whoopies
Warbonnet Blackbird XLC (http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbird-xlc/) DL 1.1 w straps
Warbonnet RidgeRunner (http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/ridgerunner-hammock/) DL (one with line, one with straps)
Dream Hammock Dangerbird (http://www.dream-hammock.com/DangerBird.html) DL 11' x 72"
Dream Hammock Nighthawk (http://www.dream-hammock.com/NightHawk.html) DL 11' x 60"

I loved all of them in different ways.

At the moment, I'm most in love with the Nighthawk. Of course, your mileage may vary.

Eric

Pie Guy
05-17-2015, 19:00
Going out in whatever hammock you get without several outings in your backyard or near by park could be a big mistake. Hanging is different and you will have many minutes perfecting your hang angle and tarp setups. To rush is a mistake.

Ridge_Dog
05-17-2015, 22:50
Going out in whatever hammock you get without several outings in your backyard or near by park could be a big mistake. Hanging is different and you will have many minutes perfecting your hang angle and tarp setups. To rush is a mistake.

+1

Madman4049
05-18-2015, 04:29
Most definitely wait, I had a HH, granted it was the Explorer ASYM Zip not the Deep Jungle but I think they are a lot alike. I now have a Warbonnet Blackbird 1.1 SL and am not looking back. The Hennessy gave me calf cramps bad and felt claustrophobic aside from being heavy as well. The BB is like heaven, so much so I am about two steps from ditching the memory foam bed and putting a Traveler in the room.

Evaed
05-18-2015, 05:06
Hennessy Hammocks unfortunately are made in China, I'll stick with Warbonnet!

https://www.hammockforums.net/articles/manufacturerlist.htm

Stewart329
05-18-2015, 07:09
Going out in whatever hammock you get without several outings in your backyard or near by park could be a big mistake. Hanging is different and you will have many minutes perfecting your hang angle and tarp setups. To rush is a mistake.

The plan is to get something ASAP and start hanging in the back yard. I'm lucky to live in the woods so finding opportunity to hang a hammock will not be a problem.

I thought ordering over a month out gave me time to practice. Wrong again....

gunner76
05-18-2015, 09:03
I have a Blackbird and a Hennessy Explorer. Personally, I find the HH more comfortable.

For me I found my BB more comfortable than my HH

Shug
05-18-2015, 09:33
I do find my Blackbird XLC very comfortable. Cannot speak to a Hennessy as I have never laid up in one.
Shug


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jU8mzz3xJk

Whiskeyjack
05-18-2015, 09:54
Hennessy Hammocks unfortunately are made in China, I'll stick with Warbonnet!

https://www.hammockforums.net/articles/manufacturerlist.htm

Unfortunately, that statement isn't entirely true.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/4695-Hammock-Manufacturer-Country-of-Origin?highlight=hennessey+manufacture

Dhagan
05-18-2015, 10:23
Love my WBBB.

Tom18C
05-18-2015, 10:23
Wait... You will not regret it.

keith
05-18-2015, 10:28
Love my WBB WAIT

Also have NiteOwl love that one as well

Stewart329
05-18-2015, 14:58
I spoke to Brandon at Warbonnet and he said he hopes to be taking orders again soon and thought I could reasonably expect to receive an order in time for the trip with a little time to practice with it. Of course this also depends on the demand once he starts taking orders again.

As for now I"m going to give it a little time to see if I can get my first choice in time.

Thank you for all the great advise.

Pheonix6579
05-22-2015, 19:58
Wise choice. I was in a similar situation, and Brandon made things happen. Can't say enough about those guys and their great product.

Sethrotull
05-22-2015, 20:40
Get a halfwit from Dutch or Netty from Hammeck! Great options.

Stewart329
05-25-2015, 07:53
Just ordered two Blackbirds. Thank you all for the advise. Now the wait is on to see if they arrive in time.

Madman4049
05-25-2015, 07:57
Just ordered two Blackbirds. Thank you all for the advise. Now the wait is on to see if they arrive in time.

Awesome news, glad you were able to get them on order. You won't be disappointed.