2 questions about the stands

[Billiard Pete]

1: With an 11' gathered end (WBBB XLC, WL Night Owl or DH Thunderbird) can you use your Whoopie slings or have to switch them out with continuous loops?

2: How high off the ground can the 11' hammocks I mentioned be set up (w/ the stock stands)? I don't like my hammock to close to the ground.

[gunner76]

This picture might help with ?'s

[Meckie]

1. Yes, you can use whoopie slings on the stand just larks head the the whoopie sling around the end of the ridge pole like is down with the tree straps on the last 2 pics gunner posted.
2. Your hammock should be about 3 ft off the ground

[Winged Warrior]

Nice pictures gunner76.
But now I have a question about the tarps in the pics. My wife love's red things and i'm just curious who made those and what the material is?

Thanks!
WW

[gunner76]

I have a question about the tarps in the pics

Those tarps belong to Mom and Dad Meck. You will have to contact them as to where they got them ( they are not making tarps at this time ). The pictures are from the Yates Place Hang and The Fat Butt Hang this spring.

[gmcttr]

Or you can run the whoopies around the hooks back toward the center and connect them together with a biner.

[meckelangelo]

Or you can run the whoopies around the hooks back toward the center and connect them together with a biner.

While this is an option, we don't suggest it. The weakest link on the Hammeck Stand is the s-hooks. In testing, it was the only component to fail (at a weight far exceeding our suggested maximum weight), when suspended directly from the hook. We found that a larks head (or cow hitch) around the end, with the s-hook preventing from the suspension from sliding inwards, greatly increased the durability of the entire stand.

[gmcttr]

A bad suggestion I guess....never would have dreamed the supplied hook setup would be that weak since it is an open invitation to hang from.

[meckelangelo]

A bad suggestion I guess....never would have dreamed the supplied hook setup would be that weak since it is an open invitation to hang from.

I should have probably been a bit more clear, my apologies. Our weight rating for the stand is 400 pounds. The s-hook failed with a test weight of well above 400 pounds, while also applying significant dynamic forces. By no means will using them "incorrectly" invite failure while using the stand as suggested. That said, we heavily suggest using the larks head or cow hitch method, just for the sake of careful use. We also explain this in the included instructions and our videos. I have edited my post to reflect that the failure occurred with a test weight far exceeding our suggested weight rating.

As with anything, there will always be a weak link. We found that for the stand, it happens to be the hooks. If we're ever able to locate an affordable and superior s-hook, we'll certainly swap out. Even still, we think that the method of attaching with larks head / cow hitch is safer, as it also reduces the possibility of knocking the suspension off of the hook. Of course, we're always looking to improve our products, so we are open to any suggestions.

[Nighthauk]

David is the weight rating based upon a static test. Meaning just keeping adding on weight until failure or was the weight moving around like you would do sleeping. I am not sure if it matters or not, it was just a thought. I have in mind of picking up one or two of them.

[meckelangelo]

David is the weight rating based upon a static test. Meaning just keeping adding on weight until failure or was the weight moving around like you would do sleeping. I am not sure if it matters or not, it was just a thought. I have in mind of picking up one or two of them.

The rating is based on static weight, but our testing accounted for dynamic forces. We added something like 450 pounds of static weight, then pushed and swung and bounced and jostled the weight. The failure occurred when Dad practically jumped on the weight, adding his 200+ pounds, with quite a bit of dynamic force. This is when the s-hook opened, allowing the suspension to slip off.

When we re-tested with the larks head / cow hitch method, we could not cause a failure.

Obviously, we cannot emulate all circumstances, so it's difficult to be completely scientific. As such, we prefer to assign a conservative rating, and we strongly urge that it should not be exceeded, but you may take comfort in knowing that we tested substantial dynamic forces that would normally be exerted in a hammock. Swinging is strongly discouraged! :)

[Nighthauk]

Fair enough. Thanks David

[outdoorsguy]

I bought a stand after reading the reviews on here and I'm glad I did. Even though I have trees, I like that I can break this thing down into 4 sections in seconds, move them to a more shaded area of my yard and put it back up. Takes literally about 3-4 minutes to move it across my large yard, if that. Another thing I like is the strength and stability...its made of steel and frankly, I like that.

The included instructions and video clearly state that its recommended not to hang from the hooks, but its good to know they would still hold a body easily. When everything you buy these days has a disclaimer that reads "If you don't follow directions, bad stuff will happen to you" (I paraphrased a little), well, I follow directions:).

[shipsgunner]

I must agree, this stand is VERY good quality and at 300lbs, I feel perfectly safe using it. As a full time hammocker since the beginning of last year (April,2014) this stand has gotten me off the hooks mounted to the studs in my garage. I love this stand! Portable, able to setup anywhere and not too heavy to "take with you" on car camping trips. I always prefer trees when camping but it's really nice to have options.

Thanks
SG

[mychal]

Can you explain the 24" extension piece a bit more? Any pictures? Does it attach to one end, or is it an insert of some sort in the middle?

My Cadillac hammock is a 12' hammock (the 11' Envy-S I just ordered will be my Ferrari...get it? Black and red? Never mind). Will it work without the extension, or will I need the extension for the 12' hammock?

Thanks.

[meckelangelo]

Can you explain the 24" extension piece a bit more? Any pictures? Does it attach to one end, or is it an insert of some sort in the middle?

My Cadillac hammock is a 12' hammock (the 11' Envy-S I just ordered will be my Ferrari...get it? Black and red? Never mind). Will it work without the extension, or will I need the extension for the 12' hammock?

Thanks.

I don't have any pictures on hand, but I can take one later if you require.

The extension inserts in the middle, making the ridgepole longer. It just slides into one of the ends of the ridgepole, prior to sliding the leg assembly on.

As for the 12' hammock that is a very good question that I don't have the answer to. I BELIEVE that the stand without the extension should be plenty long enough, but I cannot confirm that. I'll see if there's any way we can test this and get back to you.

[gunner76]

While I have a picture of the stand with the extension piece in it, you can't tell its there.

[mychal]

I bought one 68 seconds after meckelangelo's response. ;)

I'm a crack head.

[gunner76]

I'm a crack head.

or a meck addict