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Snowball
07-21-2016, 13:15
For a long time a DL hammock have been on my to do list and a few days ago I started the project. I did not take the easy way and all edges are hidden. When finished it will have integrated bugnet.
It is big, approx 11.5feet long and approx 61 ½ “ wide (finished). Its early days and no ridge line yet but my first impression is it’s the most comfy hammock I have ever made :boggle: Two layers of 1.0 ROBIC makes a big difference.
I did however get a surprise :scared: 1.0 Robic is very thin but when making the hammock the way I did (hidden rolled hemmed edges) there are many layers of fabric and then it gets really hard to sew (Mara 70 thread and new Microtex 12 needle) and almost too much for my machine. I guess it’s because of the fabric’s density (it’s a good thing).
So far I am a happy camper and can recommend this fabric for a DL hammock.
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BTW its a # 3 zipper
Caminante
07-21-2016, 14:14
That looks outstanding, well done. I've found that a 90/14 needle works better for me with Mara 70. I've had issues with smaller needles and multiple layers of fabric breaking the thread or stripping it to the core. The larger needle seems to make the right size hole for that thread.
Gütermann recommends a 90/14 or 100/16 needle for the Mara 70.
Beautiful hammock!!
Snowball
07-22-2016, 09:44
Usually I use 90/14 but could not find them but the issue I had was lack of torque (power) on the machine and I could hear I was pushing the limit.
Besides I am a tool freak that is also why I am looking for an industrial machine from time to time ;)
AdventureMyk
07-22-2016, 09:50
Looks great! Nice details and clean edging make the difference. Looking forward to seeing how you like it out in the field.
Texas Hanger
07-22-2016, 10:06
Snowball,
What a great looking build! Your sewing skills continue to impress... Did you leave an opening to experiment with an air mattress for both comfort and insulation?
Snowball
07-22-2016, 14:32
Snowball,
What a great looking build! Your sewing skills continue to impress... Did you leave an opening to experiment with an air mattress for both comfort and insulation?
Yes, approx 25" opening 10" opposite my feet. The opening will be on the inside when i attach the net.
Most of the testing have been made with my Therm-A-Rest Prolite Plus Large. Must say a DL hammock makes a huge difference when using a pad VS. a SL. Since i got my UQ its all i have used but i wanted the option to use a pad.
Besides for the pad use I am still surprised what a difference the extra layer and the "extra length" makes. The whole hammock has a firmer feel but not in the same way as if it was a stronger fabric.
kitsapcowboy
07-24-2016, 03:27
That is a neat hang.
hutzelbein
07-25-2016, 15:18
I have had trouble with my 1.0oz Robic XL double layer hammock as well. But only at the beginnings and endings of the channels - especially the first two rows. I had the impression that the differences in height were the biggest problem. And you have to consider that the machine has to punch through 18 layers of fabric on the edges (if you do a rolled hem)! There are fabrics that are easier to sew into a double layer hammocks, but Robic wasn't the most difficult one. I wonder if there's a trick that the pros use to deal with height difference...
Snowball
07-25-2016, 16:56
I have had trouble with my 1.0oz Robic XL double layer hammock as well. But only at the beginnings and endings of the channels - especially the first two rows. I had the impression that the differences in height were the biggest problem. And you have to consider that the machine has to punch through 18 layers of fabric on the edges (if you do a rolled hem)! There are fabrics that are easier to sew into a double layer hammocks, but Robic wasn't the most difficult one. I wonder if there's a trick that the pros use to deal with height difference...
My problem was the machine's torque (power) in the same areas but i dont blame the fabric.
If i ever have to make another DL i will not roll the hems. It was total overkill and made in much harder to sew because i had to guide two hemmed layers and the zipper at the same time.
The reason i hemmed the fabric was because of the edge at the pad hole but it would have been much easier to edge binde these 25". Live and learn ;)
The whole hammock is sewn in the inside to hide all the edges and as you can see the zipper is between the layers so there is no need for any hems.
BTW i got sidetracked so no bugnet yet.
I am currently working on another DL hammock also with net but much smaller because its for a dog ;) Why should we have all the fun ?
Snowball
07-26-2016, 15:17
Bugnet in progress.
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Nice to know Robic is working for you... gonna do one of my own soon.
Also nice to know that you can simply sew a channel rather than doing a gathered end. How many rows of stitching did you put in for that?
Snowball
07-27-2016, 03:30
Nice to know Robic is working for you... gonna do one of my own soon.
Also nice to know that you can simply sew a channel rather than doing a gathered end. How many rows of stitching did you put in for that?
3 rows of stitching.
Finished the bugnet late last night. I had to test the hammock again with the net and my pad. UPS, did not wake up until this morning and i did not move 1" ;) To me it says something about comfort.
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Texas Hanger
07-27-2016, 09:46
3 rows of stitching.
Finished the bugnet late last night. I had to test the hammock again with the net and my pad. UPS, did not wake up until this morning and i did not move 1" ;) To me it says something about comfort.
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What? You slept like a baby using a pad?? Careful Snowball, the UQ Police from HF will be here soon to tell you that is not possible... :laugh:
Snowball
07-27-2016, 11:47
What? You slept like a baby using a pad?? Careful Snowball, the UQ Police from HF will be here soon to tell you that is not possible... :laugh:
Not sure what is happening. Besides the DIY bug i may have got another........ Heeelp :lol:
Snowball
07-28-2016, 07:00
It was not my original plan to add tieout loops to the hammock but after some testing i found they would be nice to have sometimes. Having the shock cord hanging when not in use is a PITA so i made some small pockets or saddlebags if you will. Because this is a DL hammock i think its better when they are hanging because the stitching could interfere with a pad when sewn across the two layers but if it had been a SL hammock i would have sewn them directly to the hammock side.
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It was not my original plan to add tieout loops to the hammock but after some testing i found they would be nice to have sometimes. Having the shock cord hanging when not in use is a PITA so i made some small pockets or saddlebags if you will. Because this is a DL hammock i think its better when they are hanging because the stitching could interfere with a pad when sewn across the two layers but if it had been a SL hammock i would have sewn them directly to the hammock side.
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Great idea. I like that a lot. Have them when you need them and stashed away when you dont!
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Snowball
07-29-2016, 07:03
Final data
11.5feet long and approx 61 ½ “ wide.
Integrated bugnet.
One zipper #3 all the way around.
Weight including ridge line organizer - whoopie slings and stuff sack 611grams (just under 22oz).
Volume just under 2liters but can be compressed.
I think these data are ok for a DL hammock this seize.
Snowball
07-31-2016, 03:54
First overnight test. Not bad at all.
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Snowball that is one of the best looking hammocks I've seen you churn out. Superior work, and I hope it gives you many many nights of peaceful sleep.