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I have that same treadle, and this beauty.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/936398_321332504666956_1029029574_n.jpg
Datahiker
06-14-2013, 13:53
So what features are handy to have? I bought a 1950 Singer 99k off CL and it looks like all it does is straight stitches (although it looks like it can handle different feet for other purposes). The stitch length adjustment is a plain knob without any markers or gradations. It looks like reverse stitching and bar tacks are nice things to be able to do. I'm just wondering if I jumped the gun and got something that won't do everything I want it to.
Keep in mind, this is my first injector and I'm in the process of cleaning and tuning it up before I try anything. Any thoughts/opinions?
...Any thoughts/opinions?
You did good. A Singer 99K is a fine machine and makes a very nice straight stitch...which is all you really need.
Yes, the ability to bar tack is nice, but not even close to a "must have".
Reverse is not really meant to be used to stitch long seams. It is normally just used to back stitch 2-3 stitches to lock the stitching. The workaround is simply to turn the fabric around to sew a couple of locking stitches and is only used when the end of a row of stitches is the finished product. If the fabric (at the end of a row of stitches) is going to be seamed to another piece of fabric or roll hemmed, etc, this will lock the prior stitching.
Datahiker, you did fine. As already said before all you need is straight stitches.
Datahiker
06-17-2013, 07:05
Thanks for the feedback, Thom and gmcttr. I already have the service manual for it, so I guess it's just a matter of diving in now!
I picked up this singer 401 on craigslist, with all original accessories and some extras. I sold some of the extras I would never use on Ebay, and that paid for the machine.
Nice machine. I like the 401 so much that I bought 2 of them.:D
it was in really nice condition, both outside and in. they had the service records and only stopped using it because the owner wanted something she could actually carry.
the pattern selector was a little off, I adjusted that when i was cleaning and lubing and the motor needed a little TLC (wouldn't run slowly) but other than that its pretty flawless.
hppyfngy
06-19-2013, 10:37
Nice machine. I like the 401 so much that I bought 2 of them.:D
How flippin many sewing machines do you have anyway?
:laugh:
How flippin many sewing machines do you have anyway?
:laugh:
17 at the moment....but dad's got about 70 (down from 200 at one time) in case I run short...or need a boot maker's machine or carpet edge binder or....well, you get the picture.:D
dragon360
06-19-2013, 11:05
17 at the moment....but dad's got about 70 (down from 200 at one time) in case I run short...or need a boot maker's machine or carpet edge binder or....well, you get the picture.:D
Wha.............?!!!
AMAZING!
sweetmusic
06-19-2013, 14:57
17 at the moment....but dad's got about 70 (down from 200 at one time) in case I run short...or need a boot maker's machine or carpet edge binder or....well, you get the picture.:D
Oh my... Now I don't feel so bad about admitting to a baker's dozen, plus the serger... :lol:
Oh my... Now I don't feel so bad about admitting to a baker's dozen, plus the serger... :lol:
I had to include the serger to get to 17.:rolleyes:
Dad was a serious collector for a few decades...gained access to the backroom collections of the Smithsonian, etc.
hppyfngy
06-19-2013, 16:04
I had to include the serger to get to 17.:rolleyes:
Dad was a serious collector for a few decades...gained access to the backroom collections of the Smithsonian, etc.
I'm coming over. Where does Dad live?
:D
No kidding. I'm coming to your dads house.
Maybe he will have a Singer 15/91 laying around.
wirerat123
06-26-2013, 20:03
Thanks to everyone for posting their hardware! I had no idea this thread would grow to this length!
:thumbup1:
JerryW
So this was on page 14, how about now PAGE 52! :lol:
Crazy stuff lol. I love browsing through these machines. Oh yeah, I'M BAAAACK!
Michelle the Camper
07-02-2013, 10:51
My Kenmore...still a bit of a mystery to me, but I love it and I keep improving!
Picked up a Singer 403 past weekend for $65. Very clean inside and out. Tons of accessories. Works great
Heres mine... not as fancy as some others, but she gets the job done. Its a Euro Pro 385x
Took this pic while I was sewing my bug net using the Fronkey design.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8036/wlka.jpg
My Kenmore...still a bit of a mystery to me, but I love it and I keep improving!
Straight stitch is all you need...mystery solved.
Picked up a Singer 403 past weekend for $65. Very clean inside and out. Tons of accessories. Works great
Sweet!
Heres mine... not as fancy as some others, but she gets the job done...
Fancy doesn't count. "Gets the job done" does.
BIG JEFF
07-05-2013, 21:56
And my wife thinks I'm crazy an I only have 80 machines
Here you can see my sewing machine, Husqvarna Automatic 21, a Swedish workhorse that I appreciate more each day
http://forumbilder.se/CES8D/image.jpg (http://forumbilder.se/CES8D/image)
BIG JEFF
07-06-2013, 17:16
My newest addition to the family a 1960 PFAFF 360.
My newest addition to the family a 1960 PFAFF 360.
Very nice. I have a basic knowledge of Singers and a bit about Necchi's, but know next to nothing about all the other makes.
BIG JEFF
07-07-2013, 20:37
I have many singer's and singer clones they are good basic machines especially the older ones. Kenmores are good machines untill the early 70s. Pfaff and Necchi are very smooth but for real power Husqvarna Viking is the choice in a home machine.With their low gear transmission the dealers used to sew yard sticks to show that power.
squidbilly
07-08-2013, 12:39
A few of my favorites...I have several old Singers too. 15-91s, 401s, 301s, 221s, 66s.
Booyow...
She just walked in my door today!
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/robv60/White%20Beast/2013-07-15_18-44-36_802_zpse3d1cfe6.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/robv60/media/White%20Beast/2013-07-15_18-44-36_802_zpse3d1cfe6.jpg.html)
More pics here:
http://s105.photobucket.com/user/robv60/slideshow/White%20Beast
Booyow...
Score! :thumbup1:
Vincebus
07-16-2013, 05:42
Jeez, with all this bragging about the older machines, I almost feel insecure with my little 'ol Singer Esteem... :'(
A few of my favorites...
I must have overlooked your post. Very nice collection of Necchis.
hppyfngy
07-16-2013, 08:59
Jeez, with all this bragging about the older machines, I almost feel insecure with my little 'ol Singer Esteem... :'(
"There are no bad sewing machines."
(actually really untrue, but it sounds encouraging... :))
... but for real power Husqvarna Viking is the choice in a home machine.With their low gear transmission the dealers used to sew yard sticks to show that power.
I love talking about how bad a$$ our sewing machines are.
Kind of evens things out. Grrrrrr..... :D
Just needed cleaning and oil. Works great
Did you buy the case for it or did it come with it? I need to get a new one because one of my hinges got broke during shipping. grrr.
My wife picked this up for me today, and it works like a new one. Good value at $20 aus.
Now for another hammock :D.
Very nice. I brought home a hand cranked version recently.
Wow I feel silly, I've been reading about this mythical thread injector and figured that since it took me long enough to figure out how to sew that I'm not going to buy and learn to use some new fangedled gizmo
Sheesh, Ive got 3 sewing machines that I've accrued over the years
Craigthor
07-28-2013, 15:03
I'd post a picture of my wife, but she might get mad, I'm not allowed to touch her sewing toys.
My wife picked this up for me today, and it works like a new one. Good value at $20 aus.
Now for another hammock :D.
Awesome buy
Very nice. I brought home a hand cranked version recently.
Awesome buy
Yep they are an awesome machine.
mereside
07-29-2013, 01:28
just purchased this bad boy so will be doing my quilts in no time nothing stopping me now:D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231020577895?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Cyngbaeld
07-29-2013, 12:10
Nice machine, Mereside!
I have 3 machines, a fancy electronic Pfaff, a New Home Treadle, and a very heavy old "no name brand" that will sew thru 4 or 5 layers of denim that was given to me. Too lazy to get pix today.
BIG JEFF
07-29-2013, 17:28
Clean little 99 what year is it.
Clean little 99 what year is it.
hey Big Jeff - I assume you mean mine. It doesn't have a serial number on it which is interesting. It has a made in Australia badge on it, just not sure of the year.
BIG JEFF
07-29-2013, 21:02
hey Big Jeff - I assume you mean mine. It doesn't have a serial number on it which is interesting. It has a made in Australia badge on it, just not sure of the year.
Regardless its a very nice machine having the model number on the front makes me think late 50s they made class 99 until 63 . I have a 1925 #99 knee control in a wooden mail box style case its great for tight edge seams. Hope you enjoy yours
Jeff
Regardless its a very nice machine having the model number on the front makes me think late 50s they made class 99 until 63...
Yes, that style stitch length lever, reverse feature and plastic base (assuming it is original) make this a 99K-31 from the later years of production.
I suspect the pink "S" on the badge may tell us something as well, but I haven't looked into that aspect yet.
Picked up a Kenmore today. Needed a good cleaning and oil. Zig-Zag was froze up, but is repaired now.
Yes, that style stitch length lever, reverse feature and plastic base (assuming it is original) make this a 99K-31 from the later years of production.
I suspect the pink "S" on the badge may tell us something as well, but I haven't looked into that aspect yet.
So it does have reverse, is that by pushing the stitch length lever up as far as it goes?
yes , raising lever will reverse.
So it does have reverse, is that by pushing the stitch length lever up as far as it goes?
Yes, it was meant to be used as a back tack to lock stitches rather than lengthy reverse stitching.
yes , raising lever will reverse.
Yes, it was meant to be used as a back tack to lock stitches rather than lengthy reverse stitching.
Cheers - never thought I would be finding out so much about thread injectors when I joined a hammock forum :).
mereside
07-30-2013, 15:26
well i got her home tonight and cranked it up filled all my bobbins and had a quick go on a piece of ripstop,things are looking good from the off so watch out for the full report on my underquilt and top quilt, atb wayne
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr31/mereside/stalking130_zps3ed3d5df.jpg (http://s467.photobucket.com/user/mereside/media/stalking130_zps3ed3d5df.jpg.html)
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr31/mereside/stalking131_zpsb5ddffd8.jpg (http://s467.photobucket.com/user/mereside/media/stalking131_zpsb5ddffd8.jpg.html)
zooshooter
08-05-2013, 09:30
http://i.imgur.com/bONo1Sh.jpg
Thrift store steal. Brother Galaxie 221a. Had a hell of a time finding a manual for it. I really like this machine. It has a few mechanical stitch pattern wheels built into it which I think is pretty cool. The only real weak point on it seems to be a large-ish plastic gear. I'm tempted to see if I can find a machine shop to remake the gear in steel or similar just so I don't have to worry about it. Other than that it is in perfect working condition after a quick clean & lube. I'll be working on re-wiring the main plug/foot pedal assembly as the current wire insulation is gone in some spots, looks like rubbing against a rough surface did it, not chewed at least. It'll be an interesting experiment.
[IMG]...I'm tempted to see if I can find a machine shop to remake the gear in steel or similar just so I don't have to worry about it...
I suspect you would be able to buy several machines with all metal gears for less $$$. In other words...no need to worry.;)
zooshooter
08-05-2013, 10:16
I suspect you would be able to buy several machines with all metal gears for less $$$. In other words...no need to worry.;)
But this one sews DUCKS! Pattern #5
Neat! Reminds me alot of mine in some ways. I wish mine had a front-loading bobbin.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=2980&pictureid=20156
Just got this today. Found it at a repair shop. It's been serviced and given a clean bill of health. I paid $200 for it. Might have been too much but I look at it like I just bought a fine bottle of wine. It's in really good shape for being made in 1952. And it's so smooth and quiet. It's my first! Probably not the last. :D
How's this whammadyne thread injector?
Ramblinrev
08-05-2013, 21:33
But this one sews DUCKS! Pattern #5
Who could ask for more! The question will be... do they really look like that when finished? Or are they just a bunch of zig-zags the vaguely form a pattern.
BIG JEFF
08-05-2013, 21:34
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=2980&pictureid=20156
Just got this today. Found it at a repair shop. It's been serviced and given a clean bill of health. I paid $200 for it. Might have been too much but I look at it like I just bought a fine bottle of wine. It's in really good shape for being made in 1952. And it's so smooth and quiet. It's my first! Probably not the last. :D
Very nice 301 in the best color very desirable model. Serviced ready to go. You did good
Ramblinrev
08-05-2013, 21:42
I paid $200 for it. Might have been too much but I look at it like I just bought a fine bottle of wine. It's in really good shape for being made in 1952. And it's so smooth and quiet. It's my first! Probably not the last. :D[/QUOTE]
$200 for a true collectors machine? No worries. Well worth the money especially since it was all good to go. They are very highly sought by many of the quilting crowd. Which, contrary to what you might think means it will so through darn near anything. Quilters sew through high thicknesses that can be surprising dense. It's a winner.
Very nice 301 in the best color very desirable model. Serviced ready to go. You did good
Thanks Jeff! I'm pretty pleased with it!
Rev, the gentleman that owns the shop let me test drive it first. It sewed through 4 layers of denim like it was a single piece of 30d sil.
But this one sews DUCKS!...
Mine sews ducks as well; granted, it's a little difficult to get them under the presser foot though...:lol:
How's this whammadyne thread injector?
It's an imported machine with the Remington badge. These Singer Class 15 copies were made by many overseas manufacturers with a wide variety of badges. These are generally very well made machines.
zooshooter
08-06-2013, 13:29
Who could ask for more! The question will be... do they really look like that when finished? Or are they just a bunch of zig-zags the vaguely form a pattern.
That's a good question. I should try that out tonight now that I've figured out how to adjust the tension so that the bobbin thread doesn't bunch up inside the needle plate. The tension was waaaaaaay high. Gave it almost a full half turn to loosen it up to get it back where it needs to be. It also has butterflies, moon scalloping, and a fish. Now I just want work to be done so I can go home and play.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=2980&pictureid=20156
Just got this today. Found it at a repair shop. It's been serviced and given a clean bill of health. I paid $200 for it. Might have been too much but I look at it like I just bought a fine bottle of wine. It's in really good shape for being made in 1952. And it's so smooth and quiet. It's my first! Probably not the last. :D
Very nice!
.
Mine sews ducks as well; granted, it's a little difficult to get them under the presser foot though...:lol:
Ha ha, nice!
Kattelyn
08-09-2013, 18:30
Well, Throkda loves to spoil me and I've got a ton of sewing projects coming up in short order so he got me something I've had my eye on for well over a decade.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969264_10151761823021928_137065850_n.jpg
I've had a sewing machine for years and use it creating all kinds of stuff. Now he just picked me up a serger. Can't wait to put it to good use.
I was messing with the wife's Husqvarna tonight. It was encouraging. I ordered some material from DIY gear supply and will start with a messenger bag for a diaper bag.
I also have an old treadle machine, but the belt is loose and won't grab. I do want to use that one.
...I also have an old treadle machine, but the belt is loose and won't grab. I do want to use that one.
Easy fix...http://shop.sew-classic.com/Belt-Treadle-universal-3-16-diameter-P60013.htm
Easy fix...http://shop.sew-classic.com/Belt-Treadle-universal-3-16-diameter-P60013.htm
Thanks for the tip!
Just picked this up for my wife ;).
Not sure what model exactly, is it a 201?
Yes, that is a Singer 201. Out of curiosity, what is the serial number (should be behind the spool pin on the base)?
Yes, that is a Singer 201. Out of curiosity, what is the serial number (should be behind the spool pin on the base)?
Hey mate,
The serial number is EC665820.
I am stoked that it's a 201. Plus I got some major brownie points from the good wife for such a great birthday present :).
I tell you what the treadle takes a bit of getting used but it is so silent, it's almost a meditative way of sewing.
It also came with a heap of different foot attachments which I have no idea what they do.
It is a 201K made in 1940.
Here's a link to the manual...http://www.scribd.com/doc/29041076/Singer-201k-Manual. It shows how to use the various feet.
It is a 201K made in 1940.
Here's a link to the manual...http://www.scribd.com/doc/29041076/Singer-201k-Manual. It shows how to use the various feet.
Cheers mate.
Klaussinator
08-10-2013, 17:15
:eek:
Mine sews ducks as well; granted, it's a little difficult to get them under the presser foot though...:lol:
You beat me to it!
-Klauss
swoody126
08-11-2013, 07:45
It is a 201K made in 1940.
Here's a link to the manual...http://www.scribd.com/doc/29041076/Singer-201k-Manual. It shows how to use the various feet.
many thanks for the link
it comes thru quite clearly
sw
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/album.php?albumid=2988&pictureid=20200
Used for marine applications and now backpacking gear
Just picked this up for my wife ;).
Not sure what model exactly, is it a 201?
That's awesome, Simon!
When the Zombies take over the power plant ...
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That's awesome, Simon!
When the Zombies take over the power plant ...
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I have not heard that saying before Mike, kind of like "the insane taking over the asylum" I am guessing, which might be closer to the truth ;).
I just sewed up a pink hammock with contrasting blue thread for my wife on my 99K - that is a really sweet machine. It almost made my crooked sewing straight :).
I shortened up the belt a touch on the old Wheeler and Wilson and ran a few stitches today.
I have to get up some pics for you all.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/Gecko68/th_2013-02-24_14-48-08_238_zpsdd200b69.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/Gecko68/media/2013-02-24_14-48-08_238_zpsdd200b69.jpg.html)
Here is my Great Grandmothers old Wheeler and Wilson D-9.
We are off to a pretty good start together.
This is my singer Model 237 Fashion Mate. I think it's from the early 1960s.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T-pWbhV4L1o/UgkXpRbOo1I/AAAAAAAAB_U/7kthRik48QM/s800/004_ThreadWelderTop.JPG
It was made in Italy, so I like to think of it as exotic. It isn't. It is a darn good machine though. It was a gift from my mother. She probably found it at a yard sale or the local repair shop, and even though she had no need of it, she knows a good machine when she sees one. She only uses industrial machines, because she makes the best drapes you'll ever see, but that's off topic. She gave it to me as a house warming gift back in aught-eight, but I've never used it before now, so in a way hammock making (and hammockforums.net) has brought this terriffic machine out of retirement.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GC3lsvoG5tg/UgkXZjHGnZI/AAAAAAAAB_c/TV9GZtq3agU/s800/005_ThreadWelderBottom.JPG
It's a pretty simple machine (which is no doubt why it works so well), and it seems to dry out pretty frequently, so I see the bottom pretty often too.
I actually taught myself how to sew by reading the manual for this machine (that I was able to download from Singer's website). I also learned that this machine was available in both a motorized and a treadle version, and that it can be easily converted between the two just by moving one belt off and the other on. I'm going to have to keep my eye out for a treadle table. I think it would be nice to have in the case of a power outage.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GOvBXdCbAFM/UgkXtCG0cPI/AAAAAAAAB_k/30KwEu36Pm8/s800/006_ThreadWelderBack.JPG
I also have a much newer Janomi, but it was out for repairs when I was taking pictures. The singer was used to make my hammock my hex tarp, my bugnet and a bunch of stuff-sacks, so it deserves the attention more anyway. I made most of my wife's hammock with the Janome before it seized up though.
One of my machines. :boggle:
ouHe_qIh4rw
swoody126
08-25-2013, 20:34
One of my machines. :boggle:
ouHe_qIh4rw
SPICE TOP for a WRANGLER
ONLY WISH MY LOCAL UPHOLSTERY GUY WOULD RE-DO MY ZIPPERS...
either that or let me use his injector(knot likely)
sw
SPICE TOP for a WRANGLER
ONLY WISH MY LOCAL UPHOLSTERY GUY WOULD RE-DO MY ZIPPERS...
either that or let me use his injector(knot likely)
sw
LoL! Goes good with my tan jeep.
JollyGreen
08-26-2013, 07:17
Ok, that's it. I'm now in search of an injector to do some DIY projects.
zooshooter
08-26-2013, 11:05
Ok, that's it. I'm now in search of an injector to do some DIY projects.
If you haven't yet, make sure you read this: https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/member.php?u=1466 Courtesy of Ramblinrev: https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/member.php?u=1466
hppyfngy
08-26-2013, 11:18
I think zooshooter meant to point to this:
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6802
Or this...https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19006
zooshooter
08-27-2013, 15:35
Or this...https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19006
Yes I did. Apparently my ctrl+c isn't as good as my ctrl+v
Yukondave
08-30-2013, 10:04
My mother gave this to me a few years before she passed away. Now that I'm into hammocks I figure it's time to learn to use it. Still working on the right combination of thread, tension and needle but I'm getting there. :D
Take good care of that Featherweight...they typically sell for $300 and up. Quilters love them because of their portability.
My mother gave this to me a few years before she passed away. Now that I'm into hammocks I figure it's time to learn to use it. Still working on the right combination of thread, tension and needle but I'm getting there. :D
Gee they are beautiful machine.
Junebugdawn
08-30-2013, 16:06
I can't remember if I ever posted to this thread. Here is my gear maker. My mother bought it for me about 6 years ago. I used it very rarely. Then I began hammocking.
I have kept it very busy this last year.
VictoriaGuy
08-31-2013, 01:03
My (our) regular machine is a 1977 Pfaff 1222E with a top feed presser foot (similar idea to walking foot). Helps keep slippery fabrics lined up....
Nice wide throat (8")
Rotary hook, front load bobbin
It has a triple-lock straight stitch available (2 forward, one back, 2 forward, etc..) which is great for sewing webbing or other 'can't fail' stuff.
I like having zig-zag/bartack and overcasting stitches available.
Great machine, but not worth what folks are paying online- there are quite a few plastic gears and cams which could cause problems.:(
If you are offered one cheap, grab it and use it till it breaks!
:)
VictoriaGuy
08-31-2013, 01:11
Here's one I just picked up this morning ($40).
1974 Elna Star SU
Very smooth-running machine....runs like a Swiss...sewing machine.:)
Nice compact machine with 6 built-in stitches and then a bunch I'll probably never use available via cam disks.
Throat is a bit narrow (~7")
Drop in bobbin and no bobbin carrier, so you need to manually 'hook' the bobbin thread into a slot.
Everything is very well thought-out, including a macho metal case, part of which fits around the free-arm to make a wider sewing surface.
Foot pedal has a fast/slow selector which makes it easy to do precise sewing; good for learning.
XTrekker
09-11-2013, 09:54
Already a Thread (https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=79673) on this so wont go into the details of how I acquired them but here a pic of my machines. The one on the right was just acquired for free and has yet to be cleaned.
From Left to Right: Singer 401A(with all accessories and manual), Montgomery Ward(with all accessories and manual), Singer 401A.
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o594/dunndynamics/Camping%20Gear/DSC00983_zps1b2c0848.jpg
Lady Kenmore 89. Uncovered this still in its gorgeous cabinet. My grandmother apparently kept it in good shape. I intend to return the favor.
Lady Kenmore 89. Uncovered this still in its gorgeous cabinet. My grandmother apparently kept it in good shape. I intend to return the favor.
That is a sweet machine.
That is a sweet machine.
Thanks! I will be oiling her up today and cleaning the shuttle and feed dog, then after a couple practice runs I will be hemming my first sewn hammock blank to use the knotty mod :D
...cleaning the shuttle...
FWIW...it should have a bobbin/bobbin case and a rotary or oscillating hook, but no shuttle. That was from an earlier time.:)
Thanks! I will be oiling her up today and cleaning the shuttle and feed dog, then after a couple practice runs I will be hemming my first sewn hammock blank to use the knotty mod :D
And the obsession begins :).
FWIW...it should have a bobbin/bobbin case and a rotary or oscillating hook, but no shuttle. That was from an earlier time.:)
Definitely has a bobbin and bobbin hook, and the rest looks and acts more like it should be called an oscillating hook. Wonder why the manual called it a shuttle case...
....Wonder why the manual called it a shuttle case...
Probably because it was correct and I had a......well..... I'm going to call it a senior moment.
When I read shuttle, I pictured the boat and bullet shaped shuttles of the older vibrating shuttle machines.
Oh good, I'm glad the manual didn't steer me wrong! There was quite a bit of fuzz in there when I took the brush to it, too
My mother gave this to me a few years before she passed away. Now that I'm into hammocks I figure it's time to learn to use it. Still working on the right combination of thread, tension and needle but I'm getting there. :D
Very nice machine. Looks like the one my mom taught me to sew on 45 years ago.
So, I liked my Brother CS6000i ok, but had an occasional issue when sewing through multiple layers of rip-stop. Even bent a couple of needles. Especially when stitching through that fabric and previous stitching. Wanting to sew some tree straps and was a little worried about sewing through webbing given the issues with rip-stop.
Started reading this thread and several others as well as watching reviews on youtube about the older all metal machines with gears/no belts and got thread injector envy.
Found a Singer 500A (Rocketeer) at a thrift store for $75 with all the attachments. However, when I got there I couldn't get the presser foot to lift. I was getting ready to walk out and the guy asked why I didn't buy it. When I told him, he offered it for $60, then $50 and I kept saying no thanks. Then I got the...what will you give me, to which I replied $25 and heard "sold".
It took about 4 hours of work to unfreeze the presser lift and to figure out how to repair/reinstall the tension control and spring that someone installed incorrectly. Sews pretty good. They do sound smooth, don't they. I'm pleased for $25. The side door has a broken hinge like someone mentioned they are prone to do and you can tell it was used, not a closet queen. Probably had 8 other pressers foots (some duplicates) and the seam guides. Looking to try it out next week after I get back from a hang this weekend.
Good luck on your gear making!!
...Found a Singer 500A (Rocketeer) at a thrift ...
Nice find. That old oil turns to varnish and freezes it all up.
Here's the 500 Service manual in photo's....http://s216.photobucket.com/user/Britlady52/library/SINGER%20500%20ROCKETEER%20SERVICE%20MANUAL?sort=3&page=1
I have the user's manual and the service manual as .pdf's. PM me your email if you'd like me to send them to you.
VictoriaGuy
09-19-2013, 00:01
Picked up this Husqvarna/Viking 5610 yesterday ($25).
It was pretty gummed up, but it's easy to work on (the back panels come off and expose most of the works- you don't have to work from the bottom of the machine), so a couple of hours of work and testing/running got everything humming right along.
It does have a few plastic bits, but the chassis is a solid aluminum casting. It's a nice solid little machine.
Pro:
They painted the bottom of the presser foot 'leg' white - it makes it a LOT easier to see the needle eye when threading the machine. (Why aren't all machines like this???:))
It can do a nice long straight stitch if required. It has a built-in triple lock stitch which I like for webbing and other 'needs to not fail' stitching, plus the usual selection of zig-zag, overcasting, and buttonholing stitches.
Con: There's no needle position control, even though it's a zig-zag machine.
It (ideally) needs a non-standard Viking bobbin, but they're easily available, and a standard bobbin will work.
meckelangelo
09-23-2013, 12:12
I picked up a Singer 15-91 off CL for $50. Ran well to start, but I figured I'd better rewire it and clean it up. I replaced the foot pedal and light, as well. I owe a lot of thanks gmcttr for pointing me in the right direction with the motor. It runs like a dream!
http://i.imgur.com/tZehdzp.jpg
I'm usually not the one that has the great find at a great price, but I did ok today. I took the day off and the wife and I went to have lunch in Camden, SC.
After lunch we decided to walk their downtown area and low and behold they have several thrift/antique shops. We were just about done in the last shop when I saw a case that I thought was a musical instrument, but when I looked the tag said sewing machine $35. I opened up and there sat a Singer 301a that looked like it had hardly ever been used and extremely clean. A few light scratched on the handle wheel and end face plate, but I think those are just from being in the case. It had the original manuals, but no accessories, which is a bummer because you know they are some where and someone doesn't know what they are. It was very clean under the bottom plate...well taken care of, just not used much. Only issue I found was that the light doesn't work, but probably just the bulb.
It only does straight stitches without accessories, but I understand quilters like them for some reason. I'm not really sure why.
Works great and has a nice stitch. I think this is starting to get addicting, but these old machines are really well made and fun to tinker with.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z253/wkerber/IMG_02921.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/wkerber/media/IMG_02921.jpg.html)
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z253/wkerber/IMG_02911.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/wkerber/media/IMG_02911.jpg.html)
BIG JEFF
09-27-2013, 20:06
Works great and has a nice stitch. I think this is starting to get addicting, but these old machines are really well made and fun to tinker with
Great find they are addicting I have close to 100 machines. The 301 is better at straight stitch than a machine designed for zig zag. Because the presser foot fits the feed dogs better.
Klaussinator
09-27-2013, 23:24
Hey Wkerber,
Nice machine, and yeah it's very clean! I did a double-take ------ looks a lot like my 404 Slant o Matic. Sweet stuff.
-Klauss
swoody126
09-28-2013, 06:41
DFW FIND
found a really good deal for anyone wanting a HD sewing machine
Tippmann "BOSS" Hand Stitching Machine - $1000
it is mounted on the Tippman bench
http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/4076704258.html
the price is firm, as i sadly found out, which is just out of my $$ range
it was the seller's dad's & there is still a sentimental attachment to it
however, it is still a good price, for a LIKE NEW machine
just thought i would pass the info along, in case anyone is looking for something like it
thanks for posting all the pics of the different machines
sure keeps me on my shopping toes
sw
Swede2378
09-30-2013, 15:40
It is also called a Husqvarna 6440 in North America.
Made in the 60's, they named the model "2000" because it would last until the year 2000. Here we are 2013, newly maintenanced, replaced a plastic part and she is good as new! Heavy, solid, no fuss, no problems.
I call her "Ophelia", in Swedish it is a play on words that means "infallable" (O-fel-ia)
BIG JEFF
09-30-2013, 17:20
It is also called a Husqvarna 6440 in North America.
Made in the 60's, they named the model "2000" because it would last until the year 2000. Here we are 2013, newly maintenanced, replaced a plastic part and she is good as new! Heavy, solid, no fuss, no problems.
I call her "Ophelia", in Swedish it is a play on words that means "infallable" (O-fel-ia)
I have a 6440 one of the first high quality machines I bought. Put it in low gear and it will punch threw just about anything.
VictoriaGuy
09-30-2013, 22:15
Picked up an Elna Supermatic today - $20 because it was making 'a noise' :D
It was noisy - whump,whump,whump....
On these Elnas, the motor is mounted vertically and there's a bevelled rubber drive wheel on the top of the axle. The rubber contacts the handwheel and drives the machine. If the machine is left for a long (long) time, the rubber wheel can develop a hard, flat spot. Thus the noise.
The 'cure' is to 'turn down' the rubber wheel (think lathe technique) with a small file or rasp till the flat is gone. Only in extreme cases is it necessary to buy a new ($$) rubber drive wheel, apparently.
Cleaned off some old hardened grease from a couple of gears, lubricated it, and it is sewing 100%.
I was surprised how quickly I got used to using the knee lever (vs a foot pedal). Unlike a foot pedal, the knee lever doesn't scoot across the floor.....
Like a lot of Elnas you see going for a small price, all the cams (save one) had 'disappeared'. (they sell online for $5-20 each, depending on rarity). It will still sew straight stitch beautifully, and I think I have a regular zig-zag cam around here somewhere. The nifty original oil can, screwdrivers and brush, along with a good handful of bobbins were all in the accessory tray. The metal case for those Elna machines folds out to form a work surface if desired.
In 2013 dollars, these machines sold for the equivalent of $1500-2000.
Debi Jaytee
10-01-2013, 17:40
JerryW, your machine is exactly like my mum's. She's had it forever (and I'd have it now if my sister wasn't in the way :) )
This one I picked up at the Salvation Army the other day. Problems finding a manual for it as the model # on it apparently isn't a Kenmore model #. :confused: But of course, help came through Hammock Forums from gmcttr who sent me a manual from a similar model. I got it threaded and sewed a little bit today - just testing to make sure it worked.
Here's a pic
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=20829
Thanks gmcttr - you're the best!
You're welcome. Now we want photos of something you make with it.:D
BIG JEFF
10-01-2013, 18:24
[QUOTE=VictoriaGuy;1104896]Picked up an Elna Supermatic today - $20 because it was making 'a noise' :D
It was noisy - whump,whump,whump....
Looks like you have the machine addiction. You are lucky the drive wheel turned down they are tough to replace supposed to take special tools. Fun old machine to use and very rare around here. I store mine with the hand wheel removed to prevent the flat spot it comes back fast on old wheels.
Have fun with your collection. JEFF
Debi Jaytee
10-01-2013, 18:28
You're welcome. Now we want photos of something you make with it.:D
I'm working on it! Going pick up some material tomorrow before work, then after work, look out! (wish me luck)
VictoriaGuy
10-01-2013, 22:07
Looks like you have the machine addiction.
Who, me???:D:D
Some things are hard to resist - those Elnas and Pfaffs (and the Husqvarna) are really cleverly made...well I guess all sewing machines are....:)
Still looking for a $20 Bernina!
You are lucky the drive wheel turned down they are tough to replace supposed to take special tools.
I actually removed the drive wheel and took it to the local sewing center to compare to a new wheel. The (honest) service guy told me not to buy the new one, just turn down the old one till the flat was gone.
I removed the motor (not very difficult - it drops out the bottom of the machine once the knee control pin is pulled out) so I could support the shaft properly while driving out the pin. You definitely need to make/rent a tool if you want to push out that pin without removing the motor. (No hammering on unsupported shafts!!) Making a tool wouldn't be very difficult - a good-sized machine nut drilled through ('sideways') and threaded on one side (to take the 'pusher') would be a start.
I store mine with the hand wheel removed to prevent the flat spot it comes back fast on old wheels.
That's a very good idea.
I just picked this up from my aunts house last week. It has been in the basement unused for about 40+ years. It was my grandmothers. It's a Kenmore model 29. Pretty stoked about making some gear. I oiled it up and figured out why it wasn't picking up the bottom thread. The needle that has been in it all these years was inserted with the flat side to the front. I recalled from the manual that it said to place the flat side to the right. Low and behold problem solved, although I couldn't begin to say why that makes a difference. Makes me wonder if it got put away all those years ago because of that.
...although I couldn't begin to say why that makes a difference. Makes me wonder if it got put away all those years ago because of that.
I think they frequently get put away by the next generation because of simple mistakes like this and not knowing how important it is to keep the bobbin area clear of bits of thread and lint and simply oiling them.
The reason the needle orientation matters is that the needle to bobbin hook clearance has to be on the money for the stitch to be formed and the needle position effects this gap. The thread path is also changed by rotating the needle and this could potentially prevent a loop in the thread from being formed (edit....would turn the loop in the thread the wrong direction) for the hook to grab.
56585
I think they frequently get put away by the next generation because of simple mistakes like this and not knowing how important it is to keep the bobbin area clear of bits of thread and lint and simply oiling them.
The reason the needle orientation matters is that the needle to bobbin hook clearance has to be on the money for the stitch to be formed and the needle position effects this gap. The thread path is also changed by rotating the needle and this could potentially prevent a loop in the thread from being formed for the hook to grab.
56585
That is a really cool graphic! Explains alot for me. Thanks!
SCWalker
10-08-2013, 19:05
My Singer Fashion Mate 237.Heavy duty.Manual says it is capable of doing leather and canvas.My aunt picked it up from one of my other aunts,for a lady that wanted it, and she never came to get it.My aunt said if I gave her $15 for her fuel cost,I could have it.So it's mine.:D
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Sewing%20Machine/0121111049a.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Sewing%20Machine/0121111049b.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Sewing%20Machine/0121111049.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Sewing%20Machine/0121111047.jpg
swoody126
10-08-2013, 19:50
that is a really cool graphic! Explains alot for me. Thanks!
DITTO!!!
Thanks
My Singer Fashion Mate 237....
SCORE! Nice find, great price.
That is a really cool graphic! Explains alot for me. Thanks!
DITTO!!!
Thanks
Your welcome...it's one of those "a picture is worth a thousand words" things.
I just picked up a Kenmore 1318 (158.1318) for $20 at the local Goodwill store. Does anyone have a manual they could share? I can't seem to find an electronic version online, only paper copies going for about $20-$30.
I just picked up a Kenmore 1318 (158.1318) for $20 at the local Goodwill store. Does anyone have a manual they could share? I can't seem to find an electronic version online, only paper copies going for about $20-$30.
I found lots of free manuals for other 158.___ kenmores, but none close enough to help.
The best I came up with is this download for $5.95 (http://www.sewconsult.com/kenmore/158%20manuals/kenmore_158_source_manuals.htm). Scroll down to your model.
UncleClark
10-30-2013, 16:47
Here's my mother's Singer 401a. One of my brothers had it until he passed this July. So I took it, cleaned, oiled, etc. It had the speed control but no AC power cord. I was able to get a new AC power cord and light bulb at the local sewing machine repair store. The machine was really dirty, full of fuzz, etc. But now that it's clean it's a very smooth running machine. It's got cams built in for a bunch of stitches, plus you can add cams to it up top for even more patterns.
The serial number dates the machine to 1951-55.
Another nice Singer saved from the scrap heap!
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3148&pictureid=21149
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3148&pictureid=21150
Enjoy the Singer 401A, they are very good machines.
Here's a link to the service manual in case you ever need it...http://sewingdude.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/singer-401-service-manual/
UncleClark
10-31-2013, 08:37
Enjoy the Singer 401A, they are very good machines.
Here's a link to the service manual in case you ever need it...http://sewingdude.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/singer-401-service-manual/
Thanks for the link to the manual.
I picked up a Singer 411g locally for $65. It is clean and runs quite well. I ran it through several of the stitches that it supports and all were perfect. Now I just need to get a fewmore bobbins and some good gear thread and I will be even happier.
Mackinac
11-03-2013, 18:27
I'm using a Kenmore...
Hillbilly Deluxe
11-03-2013, 20:22
Not the greatest, prettiest and frankly I think it's haunted but... It works, most of the time
YeahIdIDThat
11-03-2013, 21:09
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5508/10660581845_f00e9ebaea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62964136@N02/10660581845/) Bench top thread injector (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62964136@N02/10660581845/) by Kayak Fishing pictures (http://www.flickr.com/people/62964136@N02/), on Flickr
Here's my bench top thread injector : p
I picked up a Singer 411g locally for $65...
Seems as though that might be quite the find...http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/431/
Enjoy it.
Mouseskowitz
11-04-2013, 20:38
My wife's newer White is dying. I took it to the shop today and it looks like $50 to fix it, but the guy couldn't say how long before something else would break. So, I'm thinking of getting something older and more reliable instead.
I've been looking on CL and have found a 1951 Singer 15-91 for $80 and a 1920 Singer 66 for $30. Any thoughts on which one might be a better deal or do a better job?
Both can be good machines but a 1920 66 may not have a reverse...not a deal breaker, but handy to lock the start and finish of a seam. I like the 15-91 best. However, they can take more work to put them into first class working condition and ready to run another 50 years. The wiring between the plug in block and motor is often brittle and the grease in the motor/gear housing is usually dried out so that it needs cleaned out. Here's a complete tutorial (http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-re-wire-potted-motor-part-1-wire.html) on refurbishing the 15-91. It's intimidating to look through the first time but it's not difficult if you're inclined to take it on.
Here's a few machines that caught my attention on the Chicago CL...
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/art/4168268106.html
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/atq/4170570577.html
Some info on the above two machines. (http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/10/25/singer-401-401a-403--403a--404--sewing-machine-review.aspx)
His and hers... http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/art/4171344746.html
Some good info from Ramblinrev... https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19006
Always negotiate for a lower price!
Here's my Kenmore 8 model 385. Don't know much about it but the guy at the sewing store said it was a good machine made with all metal parts inside. Been serving me well since I got it 5 months ago. If I'm not mistaken these were made by Janome for Sears' Kenmore brand.
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/img-20131104-02662.jpg
Mouseskowitz
11-05-2013, 00:39
At the moment I'm thinking of getting the 66 and 15-91, clean them up and see which one we like better. The 66 has a button that I believe to be a reverse. I'll know more when I see it tomorrow. Hopefully I'll hear back from one of the other machines you mentioned before I end up with a couple that need work. The idea of fixing up the 15-91 does sound like fun though.
VictoriaGuy
11-05-2013, 00:59
Those CL Necchis look nice!
Good thing I don't live in a 'major metropolitan area' or my sewing machine collection would get outta hand in a hurry!:D
Some nice old beasties here... I started out on an Elna when I was a kid.. I've restored a 1940's Singer treadle and electrified one that was too far gone. Currently, I'm using a newish Singer plastic-bodied 4228 for my everyday uses. It's nothing great, but does whatever I need.
...The 66 has a button that I believe to be a reverse...
http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/singer-class-66-sewing-machine.html
FWIW...If it has a round thumb screw like the bottom photo in the above link, it is a stitch length regulator without reverse. If it has a lever like the top photo, it has reverse (actually "back tack").
Without reverse, you just turn the fabric around to make a few stitches the opposite direction to lock the seam. This is only needed on the occasion that another seam will not cross the first and most seams are crossed by another.
Those CL Necchis look nice!
Good thing I don't live in a 'major metropolitan area' or my sewing machine collection would get outta hand in a hurry!:D
Fortunately, a 5-6 hour drive is keeping me from making an offer on those Necchi's that I don't need at all.:laugh:
Here's my Kenmore 8 model 385....
Someday I need to study up on the Kenmore machines. I know there were a lot of good ones made and see them for sale, but I don't have enough knowledge to make recommendations.
Someday I need to study up on the Kenmore machines. I know there were a lot of good ones made and see them for sale, but I don't have enough knowledge to make recommendations.
Yeah I haven't been able to find out much about them. When I bought some presser feet the guy said Janome ones fit the Kenmores since Janome made them for Sears. At the very least, the store I bought it from gave me a 5 year warranty.
Mouseskowitz
11-06-2013, 00:40
Well, I ended up with a great looking Singer 403A, although it's really tempting to go get a Singer 15-91 tomorrow. The cabinet and machine look like they're in great shape. The machine originally belonged to the guy's grandma. I didn't find a speck of rust and only a little lint by the bobbin.
A couple of questions I have though. There is some electrical tape on the foot peddle cord. Should I dig in there to find out why and replace the cord? Or is it a if is ain't broke don't fix it thing? The guy said the pin looking thing with the white rubber piece (see attached pic) on it fell out of the machine while he was moving it. I have no idea what it is or where it goes. Can anyone help? Lastly, I'm trying to track down more info on the serial number but coming up empty on the web. Am I going to have to contact Singer for that?
It seems like this might be the start of a new addiction. My wife already talked to her grandma who said we could have the 1910 Singer 66 treadel in the original cabinet that's still in the family. :boggle:
DemostiX
11-06-2013, 01:31
You don't want shocking experiences. Old SMs, including one of mine, are notorious for rotten grommets and worn insulation at passageways, maybe due to vibration.
And those old carbon-pile foot petals sometimes spark.
Consider the age of the machine, and the condition of lots of house wiring of similar vintage.
Good looking 403A. Is that the machine I linked to?
The foot control cord is easy to replace. Scroll to the bottom of the page for the foot control and power cords...http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-401-401A-403-403A-404_c22.htm ... this is a very good supplier.
You can look for the part "that fell out" here (http://www.tandtrepair.com/Schematics/403.pdf), but I'm fairly certain it didn't come from the sewing machine. I suspect it is part of an accessory or something completely unrelated that got dropped into the cabinet.
Some free tips here (http://www.tandtrepair.com/SlantOMatics.html).
A swing needle service manual here (http://sewingdude.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/singer-401-service-manual/).
Serial number info...
http://www.singerco.com/support/machine-serial-numbers
http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-sewing-machine-serial-number-database.html
:lol::lol::lol: You're already hooked...go ahead and get the 15-91 and the 66. :thumbup1:
Mouseskowitz
11-06-2013, 16:18
It was one of the ones linked. I'm out of luck with the serial number. Singer said the machine is too new, I guess they stopped keeping track in the early '50's. If I had the money and space I would probably get the 15-91, a little short on both at the moment.
What's the serial #?
Millions of the 15-91's were made so there will be another one available if you ever what it.
Mouseskowitz
11-06-2013, 18:18
NA919483 there's a pic of it in my post on the last page.
DemostiX
11-06-2013, 19:56
Good looking 403A. Is that the machine I linked to?
The foot control cord is easy to replace. Scroll to the bottom of the page for the foot control and power cords...http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-401-401A-403-403A-404_c22.htm ... this is a very good supplier.
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Yes, good service from Sew-Classic. I like the electronic speed controller.
In these days of high-efficiency LED lights from DC sources, I'd recommend not spending on rewiring the included AC lights on many old machines, unless you are into restorartion. You can get 100 hours of light from a couple of AA batteries, better, light, and no risk of being burned or electocuted.
NA919483 there's a pic of it in my post on the last page.
Duh!
Made in 1958 according to singer301.com (http://www.singer301.com/dating/default.html) that I found because you got me curious...thanks.
Singer's site just states that all NA serial numbers were issued/allotted in 1951.
Mouseskowitz
11-06-2013, 23:36
Made in 1958 according to singer301.com (http://www.singer301.com/dating/default.html) that I found because you got me curious...thanks.
Thanks for digging that up. I figured the info was out there somewhere, I just couldn't find it. Looks like this is from fairly early in the production then.
gmcttr, thanks for the link. I thought it looked pretty robust and after reading that, I am happier still. I will get a photo posted shortly.
The only issue is that one of the 2 nylon posts for holding thread was broken - the left one. I suspect that I will be able to pick up a replacement at the sewing machine store when I go back to work next week.
I don't know what a chain stitch is, but I am pretty geeked that it can sew with 2 needles at the same time ;)
Seems as though that might be quite the find...http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/431/
Enjoy it.
...The only issue is that one of the 2 nylon posts for holding thread was broken - the left one. I suspect that I will be able to pick up a replacement at the sewing machine store when I go back to work next week...
Your machine appears to be a German version of the Singer 401A. Most of the plastic spool pins I tried for my 401A were a harder plastic and did not want to tap in securely. I found these softer (nylon?) pins (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290747793870?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) that are more like the originals and work very well. The vendor seems to be very good as well.
Your machine appears to be a German version of the Singer 401A. Most of the plastic spool pins I tried for my 401A were a harder plastic and did not want to tap in securely. I found these softer (nylon?) pins (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290747793870?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) that are more like the originals and work very well. The vendor seems to be very good as well.
It keeps putting the pics in upside down. Oh well ;) save as, and rotate ;)
SCWalker
11-09-2013, 14:07
Just gotta rotate the pic before uploading.
Your machine appears to be a German version of the Singer 401A. Most of the plastic spool pins I tried for my 401A were a harder plastic and did not want to tap in securely. I found these softer (nylon?) pins (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290747793870?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) that are more like the originals and work very well. The vendor seems to be very good as well.
Whoops...these spool pins won't work in the 411G.
I know I can't do serious leathercraft with it, but I found the receipt with the manual (wanted to use the automatic button hole foot).. it's been a great machine for less than $100.
http://i.imgur.com/VqbPeJDs.jpg (http://imgur.com/VqbPeJD)
Mouseskowitz
11-17-2013, 20:27
This might be turning into an addiction. I just added this 1949 Singer 99K to my collection, I guess two machine can be considered a collection. It obviously needs a little TLC. I've gotten a fair amount of the dust and grime off but am open to suggestions for bringing back the nice black shine and getting rid of the corrosion on the exposed parts, the inside just seems to be dusty and full of lint. It was pretty seized up at first but seems to be turning pretty well now. The motor goes well but is in desperate need to new wiring. I still haven't gotten the motor and machine to work together yet. I'm thinking the motor mount is bent since the pulleys do not line up properly. I'm hoping that fixing that and putting a new belt on it will bring it back to life.
FWIW...all the scratches to the left of the "S" on the arm is from having a "pin rag" (strip of cloth) wrapped around it to use as a pin cushion.
... but am open to suggestions for bringing back the nice black shine and getting rid of the corrosion on the exposed parts...
To clean them, you have to understand them. The black finish on the old Singers is called Japanning (http://www.ismacs.net/sewing_machine_articles/japanning.html), a lacquer and asphalt mixture that was baked on.
Next the decals were applied and then a clear coat...probably lacquer or shellac.
The dirt on the clear coat is typically cigarette smoke tars, varnished sewing machine oil and....well...dirt. The clear coat may also have a haze clear through it. I believe this is often the result of UV damage from sitting in front of a south window for 40 years.
If you use an aggressive solvent (aggressive to the clear coat finish) like denatured alcohol 91% ISO alcohol to clean it, you can quickly completely remove the dirt and the clear coat and destroy the decals (don't do that). The decals are made in layers. Under the top gold layer is a silver layer. Once the clear coat is gone the gold layer is easily destroyed and you will have "silvered" the decals.
A commonly used less aggressive solvent to clean the surface dirt is kerosene (and elbow grease). Buy a large bag of cotton balls (and latex or nitrile gloves), use one until all sides are dirty, toss it and repeat.
denatured alcohol 91% ISO alcohol does work great on the bare and plated metal pieces but keep it off the black.
Evapo-Rust (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Evapo-Rust-Rust-remover/_/N-25uj?itemIdentifier=643195_0_0_) is fantastic for removing rust from any of the bare or plated metal pieces. Just soak the parts until the rust is gone. Save the used evapo-rust and it can be reused many times.
After you have worked on the surface dirt, if the finish looks hazy (and maybe worse than when you started), try wiping it down with sewing machine oil.
This (and it looked MUCH worse than the photo shows)....
58403
Can look like this...
58404
Edited to strike out denatured alcohol...too toxic to bother with it for cleaning sewing machines.
Mouseskowitz
11-18-2013, 00:00
gmcttr, thanks for the suggestions. I also read that GOJO pumice free hand cleaner works well, any thoughts on that? I'm starting to think that I should tare this machine all the way down to get everything cleaned up right. I'm also having trouble finding a good place for parts. I'm missing a nut from the bobbin wonder and have stripped the head of a screw that I still haven't gotten out, and then there's the wiring issue.
For parts...Ebay for sellers parting out a machine or http://www.singeroriginalvintageproducts.com Click on "SINGER PARTS ACCESSORIES" on the left and then scroll down to your machine type. Duane's not cheap, but he probably has whatever you need. Contact him if you don't see what you're looking for and he can probably pull it off a a donor machine. Sewing machine 221 Sale (http://sewingmachine221sale.bizland.com/store/index.html) is another source. http://shop.sew-classic.com/main.sc for belts, bulbs, winder tires, etc.
I have seen many people report having great success with GOJO pumice free hand cleaner, TR3 Resin Glaze (automotive product), etc. I found they can go through clear coat in bad condition very quickly so be careful. Try things out in a less conspicuous spot to find what works for you.
And get the big bag of cotton balls!
I wouldn't completely disassemble the machine since the inner workings aren't rusted. Just take the big chunks off like the handwheel, tension assembly, bobbin winder/belt cover, motor and light. At that point you can submerge the whole machine in kerosene (as many report doing) if desired but I have never done that.
PM me your email address and I'll send you the 66/99 service manual.
DemostiX
11-18-2013, 23:32
The de-seizing routine for the drive train, short of disassembly, is repeated soaking in alcohol, which is a mild sovent for the varnish from regular sewing machine oil. I don't like water around metal -- though the water in rubbing alcohol is held by it -- so I'd use 90%. Or Lavachol. Use a cotton swab wet with it and you will see that it will eventually soften the hardened oil in the tight-clearance bearings of the drive train.
Once the drive train is free, lubricate every bearing with sewing machine oil. The point of sewing machine oil on the old machines is that yes it eventually forms varnishes as it dries, but when you lubricate before those varnishes form, the new oil softens and displaces the old oil.
Well, that's what the received wisdom is among Necchi group members. And I can also confirm that what is sold as kerosene in the US is also a mild solvent for oil varnishes. But, the aroma is not so neutral.
The only other product I have seen recommended for lubrication of classic iron in the sewing groups is Tri-Flow.
Mouseskowitz
11-19-2013, 00:03
I have an old can of Singer oil that has freed it up quite a bit, but I will end up using some kerosene or denatured alcohol to get rid of the varnish on the internals. I'll post some pics when everything is done and hopefully you won't recognize this machine.
Helping parents clean out garage. Mom says she has no idea how long its been there. She doesn't even sew and has no idea if it works. Anyone know anything about it and where I might get a manual for it. All I know about it is it weighs a ton compared to ones I've looked at in the stores.
Klaussinator
11-21-2013, 09:30
FWIW...To clean them, you have to understand them. The black finish on the old Singers is called Japanning (http://www.ismacs.net/sewing_machine_articles/japanning.html), a lacquer and asphalt mixture that was baked on.
Next the decals were applied and then a clear coat...probably lacquer or shellac.
The dirt on the clear coat is typically cigarette smoke tars, varnished sewing machine oil and....well...dirt. The clear coat may also have a haze clear through it. I believe this is often the result of UV damage from sitting in front of a south window for 40 years.
If you use an aggressive solvent (aggressive to the clear coat finish) like denatured alcohol 91% ISO alcohol to clean it, you can quickly completely remove the dirt and the clear coat and destroy the decals (don't do that). The decals are made in layers. Under the top gold layer is a silver layer. Once the clear coat is gone the gold layer is easily destroyed and you will have "silvered" the decals.
A commonly used less aggressive solvent to clean the surface dirt is kerosene (and elbow grease). Buy a large bag of cotton balls (and latex or nitrile gloves), use one until all sides are dirty, toss it and repeat.
denatured alcohol 91% ISO alcohol does work great on the bare and plated metal pieces but keep it off the black.
Evapo-Rust (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Evapo-Rust-Rust-remover/_/N-25uj?itemIdentifier=643195_0_0_) is fantastic for removing rust from any of the bare or plated metal pieces. Just soak the parts until the rust is gone. Save the used evapo-rust and it can be reused many times.
After you have worked on the surface dirt, if the finish looks hazy (and maybe worse than when you started), try wiping it down with sewing machine oil.
This (and it looked MUCH worse than the photo shows)....
58403
Can look like this...
58404
Edited to strike out denatured alcohol...too toxic to bother with it for cleaning sewing machines.
WOW, Great info! Thanks!
(And that looks like a sweet 404-Slant-o-Matic in the background... ;))
-Klauss
WOW, Great info! Thanks!
(And that looks like a sweet 404-Slant-o-Matic in the background... ;))
-Klauss
Close...it's a 401A.:)
Mackinac
11-27-2013, 22:32
I just picked up a new Thread Injector.
I couldn't pass up the deal on Craig's list for this White Sewing Machine Its the exact model I learned on 45 years ago! Had to have it... $20
VictoriaGuy
11-27-2013, 23:31
I just picked up a new Thread Injector.
I couldn't pass up the deal on Craig's list for this White Sewing Machine Its the exact model I learned on 45 years ago! Had to have it... $20
That's more like it! Solid machine, with zig-zag, and at the right price!:D
(I just don't understand all those million-mile Singer treadle machines advertised around here for $100 and up......:D)
$30 is my limit, and I still am getting too many machines around here!
Mackinac
12-03-2013, 21:21
That's more like it! Solid machine, with zig-zag, and at the right price!:D
(I just don't understand all those million-mile Singer treadle machines advertised around here for $100 and up......:D)
$30 is my limit, and I still am getting too many machines around here!
That's what I am talking about!
My limit is only $25 and I just got this one today for $15 in a cabinet. I air-hosed it off and oiled it up and it runs like new. :D
eviscerate3
12-03-2013, 21:41
I just picked this one up tonight. It needs a little work...well hopefully only a little. I do not know much about it other than it is a 15-91 from 1938. If anyone out there is knowlegable about this and would not mind answering a thousand questions about how to get this thing up and running like new let me know:) thanks!
DemostiX
12-03-2013, 23:02
That's what I am talking about!
My limit is only $25 and I just got this one today for $15 in a cabinet. I air-hosed it off and oiled it up and it runs like new. :D
For new readers: The reason many or most of these 20-35lb sms can "run like new" is because the wearing parts --the entire drive train after the motor and the feed dogs -- are made of the same materials and with the same tight clearances as "commercial" equipment which was developed over three quarters of a century to run for thousands of hours. That's machine time, not operator time.
Whole different world today, recognizing that the number of stitches to be delivered by the machine, except for embroidery machines, is several orders of magnitude less.
...If anyone out there is knowlegable about this and would not mind answering a thousand questions about how to get this thing up and running like new let me know:) thanks!
Sequence of events:
-Wipe the loose dirt off the outside with a damp cloth...
-Tilt the machine back and vacuum the cobwebs and dust...
-Open up the user's manual, go to section on oiling the machine and oil ALL of the places it directs you to and turn the machine over by hand to work the oil in....
Chances are the machine will turn freely and the motor will be able to do it's job. However, the grease in the motor housing will still be dried up and needs to be cleaned out and the commutator/brushes on the motor can be cleaned up while you're in there. If the insulation on the exposed motor wiring crumbled when you removed the motor, you know it needs replaced.:D
This link (http://blog.sew-classic.com/2009/02/07/refurbishing-whats-that.aspx) has good photos of the exterior pieces that are easy to remove for cleaning.
This link (http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-re-wire-potted-motor-part-1-wire.html) is the best one around for detailed instructions on everything that may need done to the motor/motor housing. Study and understand it before you start. It is the same for those with Singer 201-2's.
Be forewarned that motor brush caps are Bakelite and prone to breaking so get a large screwdriver that fits them well. Replacements are available here (http://www.shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-15-91-15-90-15-89-15-88_c27.htm).
Here's the Singer Adjuster's Manual (http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf).
There is little to no chance that you will have reason to remove any of the shafts and linkages inside the machine. Just oil every place where metal moves against metal.
I sent you a PM with my email if/as you have questions.
Short White Guy
12-03-2013, 23:47
Here goes a somewhat amusing but long story...
My wife and I were at a thrift store the other day and we saw two sewing tables, one of which included an old Brother machine. She is a veteran with sewing (despite her objections to the fact), and I have been wanting to learn for quite some time. We got the tables for each other as early Christmas presents, with me getting the machine, as well. The machine looked like it was in reasonably good shape with a cursory inspection, but I wanted a pro to take a look at it, just in case
I took the machine into the local dealer to have it inspected, and the lady there pointed out some pretty obvious issues that my wife and I did not notice, and said that the machine did not have much life left in it. She also said that I could trade the old machine in on a new one, and that is what I did after taking a day or so to mull it over and review the finances. I wound up getting this little lady just today, a Baby Lock "Anna".
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=59007&stc=1&d=1386132271
I look forward to learning how to use this new machine and making some really cool stuff. I will be taking classes where I bought her (included in the price), and don't be surprised if I fire off a ton of questions as time goes on.
eviscerate3
12-04-2013, 10:11
Sequence of events:
-Wipe the loose dirt off the outside with a damp cloth...
-Tilt the machine back and vacuum the cobwebs and dust...
-Open up the user's manual, go to section on oiling the machine and oil ALL of the places it directs you to and turn the machine over by hand to work the oil in....
Chances are the machine will turn freely and the motor will be able to do it's job. However, the grease in the motor housing will still be dried up and needs to be cleaned out and the commutator/brushes on the motor can be cleaned up while you're in there. If the insulation on the exposed motor wiring crumbled when you removed the motor, you know it needs replaced.:D
This link (http://blog.sew-classic.com/2009/02/07/refurbishing-whats-that.aspx) has good photos of the exterior pieces that are easy to remove for cleaning.
This link (http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-re-wire-potted-motor-part-1-wire.html) is the best one around for detailed instructions on everything that may need done to the motor/motor housing. Study and understand it before you start. It is the same for those with Singer 201-2's.
Be forewarned that motor brush caps are Bakelite and prone to breaking so get a large screwdriver that fits them well. Replacements are available here (http://www.shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-15-91-15-90-15-89-15-88_c27.htm).
Here's the Singer Adjuster's Manual (http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf).
There is little to no chance that you will have reason to remove any of the shafts and linkages inside the machine. Just oil every place where metal moves against metal.
I sent you a PM with my email if/as you have questions.
This forum is amazing! and so full of knowledge. Thank you so much!
For new readers: The reason many or most of these 20-35lb sms can "run like new" is because the wearing parts --the entire drive train after the motor and the feed dogs -- are made of the same materials and with the same tight clearances as "commercial" equipment which was developed over three quarters of a century to run for thousands of hours. That's machine time, not operator time.
Whole different world today, recognizing that the number of stitches to be delivered by the machine, except for embroidery machines, is several orders of magnitude less.
IOW, they don't build 'em like they used to! :D
DemostiX
12-04-2013, 18:42
That's right. The market is differentiated, or segmented.
There was a last golden age of home sewing machines through the 1950s and into the 1960's, when Japan, with all the QC their companies were capable of, added to the already- capable array of US and European machines. When multiple stitches, done through cams and nylon gears were introduced as features to distinguish models and command a higher price, the old iron "economy" models were no less machines than they had been. Mfgs did not and could not differentiate between customers who were rare home sewists and home sewists who -- as had been frequent and traditional -- for the previous half-century, were doing piecework at home, using their sms constantly.
Not sewing curtains, seaming yard after yard of fabric, but assembling clothing, and doing repairs on clothing and other fabric items. I don't make belts or canvas bags at home. But, my Italian Necchi's will handle a size 20 needle; and if I set the thread tensions right, I can make repairs in canvas and leather goods with Tex 93 thread and bar tack straps with appropriately heavy Tex 50 thread.
This is not the time or place to disabuse the belief that these heavily used sm's were, as they are labeled at ebay sales, "semi-commercial." Theyare not. Motors are too small, and the SMs are not made more continuous high-speed production. Further, a professional tailor or seamstress will want, for day in and day-out year-after-year use absolute reliability -- their business and income depends on it -- of true commercial machines.
To give SailRite its due: They do make them like (somewhat) like they used to, and the price begins at about U$650. http://www.sailrite.com/Ultrafeed-LS-1-Sewing-Machine-Straight-Stitch-Walking-Foot#.Up-9X4JMkiw
VictoriaGuy
12-07-2013, 18:33
I just picked up this Pfaff 1222SE locally- $125Cdn.
:D
I'm pretty familiar with the 1222E, after replacing a couple of parts in our 'family' machine, so it didn't take me long to get this one up to speed.
It came with a nice vertical lift cabinet (the pic doesn't show it properly).
I like Euro machines, especially the Pfaffs with the top feed.
The 1222 family have needle up and a threader, two things I also like.
Oh, yeah- broke my 'no more than $30' rule for this one!!
...Oh, yeah- broke my 'no more than $30' rule for this one!!
Good choice!:thumbup1:
I just picked up this Pfaff 1222SE locally- $125Cdn...
I just watched a Pfaff 1222E go for $500 US + $40 shipping on ebay.:D
VictoriaGuy
12-09-2013, 00:42
I just watched a Pfaff 1222E go for $500 US + $40 shipping on ebay.:D
:D
I'm a happy camper. Those machines sold for $1000 or so in the mid-70s.
Mine is running perfectly now - it took about an hour of work to get it 'loosened up' and lubed. I even got the needle threader working again- the prong wasn't broken, just bent.
Sewed up a silnylon stuff sac for keeping the inner tent dry if I need to pack it separately, just to make sure the machine was up to the job.:D
DemostiX
12-09-2013, 00:45
$125 is a lot to spend just so you can more easily sew the end seams and maybe line-pockets on a couple or few sets of snake-skins for your tarps.
Real sewists perform on wide beds.
(Yes, I am easy shipping distance from you, and will pay for extra packing material.)
BackpackerGuy
12-11-2013, 17:50
Here's my baby.
As sexy as they come.
VictoriaGuy
12-11-2013, 18:21
$125 is a lot to spend just so you can more easily sew the end seams and maybe line-pockets on a couple or few sets of snake-skins for your tarps.
Real sewists perform on wide beds.
(Yes, I am easy shipping distance from you, and will pay for extra packing material.)
:D
You could get a flat-bed version of this one, in the day. (1221)...
When the machine drops down a few inches into the cabinet, it's flat-bed.
I also like the triple lock stitch and the ability to bar-tack/zigzag, and the needle threader, and the quick threading path, and the powerful motor, and the top feed, and the ability to sew thick layers without losing tension, and..........:D
The urban myth is that they used to demo these machines by stitching a (soft?) wooden ruler, but I've heard that story about several different sewing machines...
They are solid, though...the crankshaft is about 3/4" thick..
VictoriaGuy
12-11-2013, 18:22
Here's my baby.
As sexy as they come.
So that's one of the (famou$) featherweight Singers?
Nice little machine.:thumbup1:
dammfast
12-11-2013, 20:40
I have had this machine in my basement for 12-15 years it was my wife's grandmothers. It is a wards zig zag. I have run it a few times to patch something up. I made my my first hammock last week and before I did I oiled it up and cleaned it out. The thing is working awesome. I have all the manuals and a bunch of attachment feet, I don't know what they are for but I have them. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/bezaheme.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/yqypesun.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/9adequ2e.jpg
SCWalker
12-11-2013, 22:21
All those attachments and feet are priceless.OK not quite but it is rare to find the whole set with the machine.I still can't find any of them for my Fashion Mate.
...I still can't find any of them for my Fashion Mate.
They should be standard low shank attachments which are widely available.
I have had this machine in my basement for 12-15 years it was my wife's grandmothers. It is a wards zig zag. I have run it a few times to patch something up. I made my my first hammock last week and before I did I oiled it up and cleaned it out. The thing is working awesome. I have all the manuals and a bunch of attachment feet, I don't know what they are for but I have them. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/yqypesun.jpg
Le'me try...left to right:
Darning foot? Cant see it very well
Open toe zigzag foot
Rolled hem foot
Zigzag foot
The plastic thing with the lever is a darning/embroidery foot
The big piece on the right is a seam/edge guide, uses a knob
The small piece on the right is a rod guide with a thread cutter (?)
I have no idea what the big piece in the middle is...
VictoriaGuy
12-12-2013, 14:05
The thing is working awesome. I have all the manuals and a bunch of attachment feet, I don't know what they are for but I have them.
Nice solid machine.
Feet- I think some parts are missing, which isn't uncommon.
I can't see the shank attachment point for the plastic embroidery foot, but that may just be the viewing angle.
It looks to me like you might have part (parts) of an adjustable zipper foot (which can slide from side-to-side for use in straight stitch machines where you can't change the needle position).
http://www.sewingonline.co.uk/pics/38/IMG_8109.JPG
The other part I circled on your pic may be the shank connector for the zipper foot, or some other foot? The thumbscrews do go missing often, but you may be able to improvise something. As mentioned, low-shank feet are easy to find/buy online or at your local sewing center (though they tend to be overpriced at my local places, so I'd get em straight from an online supplier- some US suppliers are pretty reasonably priced, i.e. not all in China.)
BTW, I sew quite a bit from time-to-time and the feet I find useful are:
Standard
Zipper
Sometimes a roller foot
The others are pretty much curiosities for me.
SnarkyJosh
12-13-2013, 01:26
For a long as I can remember, my mom had this Singer Golden Touch And Sew model 750 in her kitchen as just a desk. She told me to get rid of it, so I took it. It was caked with dust on the out side, but perfectly clean on the inside. Came with the manual and all the standard attachments. Apparently my grandma had given it to her when we moved to Iowa (1993) and it was only used by her once.
It took a lot of messing around to get the tension just right, the Gutermann Mara 70 kept getting snags on the bottom, but I got it all straightened out and made a double layer hammock out of some Multicam Taslite.
A new winter tarp is next on my DIY list.
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj538/SnarkyJosh/HammockForums/threadinjector.jpg
...Singer Golden Touch And Sew model 750 ...
At least some (if not all) of the 750's came with "Soft Touch" feed dogs. The feed dogs were covered with rubber/plastic which tends to chip off with age. The soft touch feed dogs I have seen are dark brown or black and are smooth surfaced. If the rubber comes off, the smooth metal backing will be exposed and the machine will quit feeding or feed erratically and the dogs will have to be replaced with textured all metal versions. The replacements are not expensive and you can replace them yourself.
So....if your 750 has these, just keep an eye on them. They may last for years.
SnarkyJosh
12-13-2013, 14:46
Thanks for the heads-up. It appears to have smooth, black rubber, feed dogs. They look like new, but I'll keep an eye on them since they are old.
Do the textured metal ones feed better? The current ones are okay, but I have to help it along, and it really doesn't back-stitch cleanly. It could just be the slippery nylon. I was thinking about getting a walking presser foot before I start my tarp. I may add the metal feed dogs to my shopping list too.
...Do the textured metal ones feed better? ...
I don't really know. I had to replace the soft touch feed dogs on my 648 before I got into hammocks and started using the thin slick materials. However, all of the metal feed dogs on my machines seem handle these fabrics well.
It looks like both varieties are available...read the note at the top of the page on the metal feed dogs.... http://www.tandtrepair.com/SingerFeedDogs.html (bookmark TNT as they have the best selection of replacement parts for these Singers).
SnarkyJosh
12-13-2013, 15:53
Thanks for the info, I'll hold off on buying the metal ones until I get a chance to practice on some silnylon.
Mackinac
12-15-2013, 09:20
I think the family might be planning an intervention. :eek:
This week I purchased a White 167 in a nice cabinet with accessories for $25 ...THEN... I came across a Singer Slant-o-Matic 401a also in a nice cabinet with accessories and a chair for $30 how could I pass it up.
I think the family might be planning an intervention. :eek:
This week I purchased a White 167 in a nice cabinet with accessories for $25 ...THEN... I came across a Singer Slant-o-Matic 401a also in a nice cabinet with accessories and a chair for $30 how could I pass it up.
Those are very nice. They would have both come home with me as well. I'm trying to stay with portables so it's not as noticeable to my wife (plus they don't take up as much room). I passed on a nice Singer 500a in the cabinet for $50 on Friday at an estate sale. Been regretting it all weekend. I'm up to 7 right now of which the last 2 were $9 apiece. Cost me a little more to get them going. Trying to concentrate on the gear making right now to take my mind off of hunting down those darn machines.
Anyone know which model Singer this is? Looking to add this to the stable. Has a really nice cabinet that comes with it.
Edit. Looks like a 201.
http://images.craigslist.org/00808_f2TxzsjAyXI_600x450.jpg
It is a Singer 201-2.
Here's the Adjuster's Manual (http://issuu.com/rexd.e.reeves/docs/singer_201_service-adjuster_s_manual__complete_).
Whether you need to rewire it or not, these instructions (http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2012/01/complete-how-to-re-wire-potted-motor.html) will walk you through cleaning out the motor housing/gears/bearing grease wicks, etc. to put it back into top shape.
General info (http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/11/11/classic-singer-2012-vintage-sewing-machine-review.aspx) and a few bits and pieces (http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-201-201k-201-2-201-3-1200-Parts_c36.htm).
It is a Singer 201-2.
Here's the Adjuster's Manual (http://issuu.com/rexd.e.reeves/docs/singer_201_service-adjuster_s_manual__complete_).
Whether you need to rewire it or not, these instructions (http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2012/01/complete-how-to-re-wire-potted-motor.html) will walk you through cleaning out the motor housing/gears/bearing grease wicks, etc. to put it back into top shape.
General info (http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/11/11/classic-singer-2012-vintage-sewing-machine-review.aspx) and a few bits and pieces (http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-201-201k-201-2-201-3-1200-Parts_c36.htm).
Thanks for the links. i just brought it home. It will need a deep cleaning for sure. The motor seems to run the bobbin winder just fine, but not the sewing end of things. I'll have to get it inside before I can take a closer look.
1941 model. Has the original cabinet, all the original attachments, owners manual, etc.
Mouseskowitz
12-24-2013, 18:27
Anyone know which model Singer this is? Looking to add this to the stable. Has a really nice cabinet that comes with it.
Edit. Looks like a 201.
http://images.craigslist.org/00808_f2TxzsjAyXI_600x450.jpg
Nice find!!!
Debi Jaytee
12-29-2013, 17:44
here's the machine that I got from my mum for Christmas. Not sure how old it is, it's older than me though…328J is the model number https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=21689
Debi...is that a wood base? What's the top look like.
You can use the serial number to look up the year here (http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-sewing-machine-serial-number-database.html).
Whiskeyjack
12-29-2013, 18:13
Neat looking machine. It would be at home on the set of Mad Men.
BIG JEFF
12-29-2013, 20:43
[QUOTE=gmcttr;1164075]Debi...is that a wood base? What's the top look like.
When it comes to sewing machines you are always seeing something you haven't seen before.
Debi Jaytee
12-29-2013, 21:40
here are some more pics
https://hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=21700
https://hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=21701
https://hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=21702
https://hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=3090&pictureid=21703
where would I find the serial number on this machine? I found the model number...
I don't know when the last time my mum used this machine was...it was full of dust (which I blew out with my boyfriend's compressor), now I just have to oil it, thread it and sew, errr, pardon me, :rolleyes: thread inject
where would I find the serial number on this machine? I found the model number...
I don't know when the last time my mum used this machine was...it was full of dust (which I blew out with my boyfriend's compressor), now I just have to oil it, thread it and sew, errr, pardon me, :rolleyes: thread inject
It should be stamped on the bottom of the case on the left hand side.
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o540/thecuriouskiwi/Singer%20328P/DSC00237_zpsaa31137b.jpg
Interesting. I had't seen the square wood cases before.
If it's too "new" to date by the serial number, post or PM it and I'll keep looking.
Debi Jaytee
12-29-2013, 22:41
I can't get the machine to tilt back in the case. I've loosened the screw that holds it in, but something else seems to be stuck, feels like on the right front corner or side. I tried to gently pry it with a screwdriver but no luck. :( It's going to have to go in and get serviced and cleaned properly anyway, I'll point that out to the guy.
I'll also phone mum tomorrow and find out:
a) when she purchased it (she got it new)
b) where the rest of the attachments are -- I have all the pattern cams that came with it, but the feet seem to be missing. I remember seeing all sorts of different feet when I was a kid and she was sewing (oh, I WISH I'd paid more attention!) She had an orange plastic box with all sorts of goodies in it, I'm sure it's still in her house somewhere!
I did some test stitching on a scrap of fabric and the tension is way out of whack. For now I've oiled it in all the spots indicated in the book and will phone the service place tomorrow. I hope they can get it in and out quickly, I'm anxious to start using it.
I showed my boyfriend an add on Kijiji (Canadian Craigslist) that the service place put up, there's a machine for sale really similar to this one, for $99. He asked me if I wished I'd just gotten that one -- no way! I can't wait to give mum something I made on her machine :)
here's the ad...
http://thunderbay.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-hobbies-crafts-Reconditioned-sewing-machines-W0QQAdIdZ546846266
BIG JEFF
12-30-2013, 19:27
[QUOTE=Debi Jaytee;1164282]I can't get the machine to tilt back in the case
Most of the slant needle machines bolt into the case look on the bottom
Debi Jaytee
12-30-2013, 21:29
I felt along the bottom yesterday and didn't feel any screws, but laid it down today and voila! there they were! I got the bottom off and the serial number is JE264705 which, according to the Singer website, puts it as made in 1961 so, yup, older than me :)
I phoned my mum today and was asking her about all the feet and such, she's not sure where they are exactly, she assumed they were with the machine, but she knows she would still have them somewhere. While we were talking about the different attachments and what not, she mentioned that it did have a lot of things with it, and that she used them to make someone's wedding dress. I knew my mum could sew, but I had no idea she was THAT good at it!
I felt along the bottom yesterday and didn't feel any screws, but laid it down today and voila! there they were! I got the bottom off and the serial number is JE264705 which, according to the Singer website, puts it as made in 1961 so, yup, older than me :)
I phoned my mum today and was asking her about all the feet and such, she's not sure where they are exactly, she assumed they were with the machine, but she knows she would still have them somewhere. While we were talking about the different attachments and what not, she mentioned that it did have a lot of things with it, and that she used them to make someone's wedding dress. I knew my mum could sew, but I had no idea she was THAT good at it!
That's pretty cool to have something like that with some family history.
just got it. jap clone of a singer 15-90. mid 40's model I assume. does a fine job. nothing but strait stitch but I guess I am also a no frills kind of guy. lol
Wow, that is in great shape. Where did you find it?
Crowell392
12-31-2013, 20:43
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wz7sd3z13imq1r/2013-10-21%2010.46.53.jpg
Crowell392
12-31-2013, 20:46
How do you like this oldie but a goody?... https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wz7sd3z13imq1r/2013-10-21%2010.46.53.jpg
SCWalker
12-31-2013, 21:00
How do you like this oldie but a goody?... https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wz7sd3z13imq1r/2013-10-21%2010.46.53.jpg
Nice machine.
thanks. it was a gift. appears to have never been used. if so very little. I made my daughter a hammock with it. sews good. it is my first and I am self teaching. pretty nice machine for my first
thanks. it was a gift. appears to have never been used. if so very little. I made my daughter a hammock with it. sews good. it is my first and I am self teaching. pretty nice machine for my first
Looks like it is direct drive?
Looks like a 28 and if I'm reading the serial number correctly...S934xxx, it's from 1906. How do you like treadling?
Debi Jaytee
01-01-2014, 12:34
That's a beautiful machine!
Mouseskowitz
01-04-2014, 22:41
Just brought home a 1921 Singer 66. I was a little disappointed to see how marred up it was when I took the needle holder off. It has a motor on it and wiring that needs replacing. It has the tensioner on the motor and this old foot peddle. Anyone have the rewiring info on this, it seems to be a little different than the newer ones. It is in a cool old cabnet, No. 24, that is a hidden treadle. So, I might have to get that option back up and running.
Just brought home a 1921 Singer 66....
A good old 66 Redeye.
I assume they will look like that if a machine has a pin rag on it. It's a very common thing.
I haven't seen a foot controller like that. The best I can advise, is copy what's there if it's all connected.
Mouseskowitz
01-05-2014, 00:58
A good old 66 Redeye.
I assume they will look like that if a machine has a pin rag on it. It's a very common thing.
I haven't seen a foot controller like that. The best I can advise, is copy what's there if it's all connected.
Ya, I just didn't expect it to be quite that bad.
Anyway, I'm still working my way through the roles of electrical tape to figure out what's going on. The first problem I'm seeing that that the foot lever part of the pedal is held on by what looks like a rivet, although the guts look like they're in there with three screws. Then the pedal plugs in with these socket things. Then there's my favorite part, the bare wire passing between parts of the machine and into the electrical tape mystery thing.
I did manage to find one of these pedals in a picture, but that's all the info I've been able to find on it. I do kind of like the design, there is a contact on the back of the foot lever that contacts with the little round contacts you can see in the picture to control the current.
If you're dealing with a two wire speed control, I would wire up a new one to the old connectors or replace all the wiring. A carbon pile control is $11 or an electronic one for $17... http://shop.sew-classic.com/Foot-Controls-Foot-Pedals-Parts_c9.htm
Get some of the 18 gauge SPT-2 wire (http://shop.sew-classic.com/Universal-Cords-and-Wire_c50.htm) while you're at it. It has thicker insulation then the lamp cord many places sell.
Or just treadle that puppy.:D
I'm looking at this one. Is it worth the 2 hours roundtrip? Seems a complete kit and all metal.
http://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_iVajcuW9jiw_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_dNSE0wlSUXF_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00T0T_kLOgV0nqIXw_600x450.jpg
The Montgomery Ward machines pop up from every once in a while. There doesn't seem to be a lot of info available on the web. They were more than likely made by one of several Japanese manufacturers whose products are generally very good.
With that said, replacement parts would be difficult to find if you ever had a problem.
If everything on it works, it's probably a decent deal for $10-$15. For $50, I'd keep looking (just personal preference). It does look to have been well taken care of.
Ramblinrev has some good advice here... https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19006
Thanks, That seems to be a good thread for info.
Last night I decided to oil up and try the Singer 99K hand cranked machine I brought home some time back. It didn't take long to have it making very nice stitches. Today I decided to try it on 1500# and 3000# webbing with the heavier Gutermann Tera 60 thread that hasn't always played nice with my other machines. After a few upper tension adjustments, I found it handles the Tera 60 like a champ and the hand crank makes controlling the short runs and constant turning of sewing straps a piece of cake.:boggle: This will be my go to machine for strap making.
With and with out the bed extension...
60135 60136
hppyfngy
01-05-2014, 15:55
Mighty fine! :boggle:
Ironman65
01-05-2014, 16:06
Last night I decided to oil up and try the Singer 99K hand cranked machine I brought home some time back. It didn't take long to have it making very nice stitches. Today I decided to try it on 1500# and 3000# webbing with the heavier Gutermann Tera 60 thread that hasn't always played nice with my other machines. After a few upper tension adjustments, I found it handles the Tera 60 like a champ and the hand crank makes controlling the short runs and constant turning of sewing straps a piece of cake.:boggle: This will be my go to machine for strap making.
With and with out the bed extension...
60135 60136
Wow! That's purdy!
Debi Jaytee
01-05-2014, 18:00
My boyfriend has one that looks like that, it was his mum's. Not sure if it's a hand crank or not though. I've only seen it once--it needs a TON of work.
Just picked up baby today.https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/album.php?albumid=3249&pictureid=21800
Sweet! Looks like a 15-91?
dougalcorn
01-10-2014, 21:27
Saw this at an antique shop in Annapolis http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/11/gyty5ypu.jpg
Saw this at an antique shop in Annapolis...
Sweet! I assume you brought it home. Hand cranked isn't it?:thumbup1:
Back in post 735, you can see i just started using a 99 as well.
squidbilly
01-10-2014, 22:45
Last night I decided to oil up and try the Singer 99K hand cranked machine I brought home some time back. It didn't take long to have it making very nice stitches. Today I decided to try it on 1500# and 3000# webbing with the heavier Gutermann Tera 60 thread that hasn't always played nice with my other machines. After a few upper tension adjustments, I found it handles the Tera 60 like a champ and the hand crank makes controlling the short runs and constant turning of sewing straps a piece of cake.:boggle: This will be my go to machine for strap making.
With and with out the bed extension...
60135 60136
That's a great idea. Never thought about it, but a hand crank machine would be ideal for webbing.
I'm using one of my Supernovas for bartacking-I have it set up for RayWay thread.
CamoDeafie82
01-11-2014, 14:29
1960s Singer 328K; still looking for fashion discs so I can do zig-zags and buttons/cross bar-tacks; with an example of a pouch I made out of 1000D Cordura and Polypro webbing. Bought the machine from a thrift store for $30, just needed a little oil and tweaking on tension, and a replacement cover/spool holder and has been running pretty much perfectly ever since.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7300136.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7300136.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7300135.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7300135.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220100.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220100.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220099.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220099.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220098.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220098.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220097.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220097.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220096.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220096.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220095.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220095.jpg.html)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/P7220094.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/CamoDeafie/media/P7220094.jpg.html)
I also have a vintage 99K that has a broken motor...how hard is it to convert it to a proper treadle/handcranked version?
dougalcorn
01-11-2014, 17:53
What were they asking?
They were closed. So I didn't find out the price (or take it home)
They were closed. So I didn't find out the price (or take it home)
Arghhh! How completely unsatisfying.:(
I also have a vintage 99K that has a broken motor...how hard is it to convert it to a proper treadle/handcranked version?
http://www.treadleon.net/sewingmachineshop/converting/converting.html
I have no need for a straight stitch Necchi Esperia but I couldn't resist. I need help...
60520
I worked on this 201 until it nearly drove me mad. Still won't handle sil like I want. I sold a 301 for the same reason. Might have to sell this one and go back to using the Janome. It has no problems with sil at all.