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FJRpilot
05-30-2014, 00:04
Very nice... It looks like fresh from the factory store..

Grapenut
05-30-2014, 19:23
Very nice... It looks like fresh from the factory store..
Thanks! I just finished refinishing the base. Picked it up at a thrift store with a ratty sewing machine attached for 20 bucks. Amazing what a little sandpaper and stain will do to bring wood back!

Debi Jaytee
05-30-2014, 21:17
Nice. I need a nicer table, I have my 15-91 in a ugly looking thing and the machine is perfect. If new the table would be fine in terms of usability, but its warn, damaged and very low. I understand most machines were either designed for women or old women. I also see a great many tables that dont even allow you to slid under it. I don't know how long I would last, not being able to slide my legs under the work area like a desk. Glad to see cl is good for something other then, well the other thing they are known for.


Go to Kmart and get some bed risers. They're little stands meant to go under the bed legs to raise it higher, I have them under my kitchen table for cutting fabric, saves my back, big time! I bet they'd be perfect under your sewing table. For some reason I found them in the kitchen area and they were about eight bucks for a set of four

gmcttr
05-30-2014, 21:41
Go to Kmart and get some bed risers....

Hmmm...I've heard that bed risers can play a large part in lethal furnishings based accidents.

two-dead-others-injured-in-bed-riser-collapse (http://www.northwesternflipside.com/2010/09/16/two-dead-others-injured-in-bed-riser-collapse/)


:scared:




:laugh:

Mouseskowitz
05-31-2014, 18:47
This is my latest acquisition. It is a 1951 Singer 201-2. I had missed out on one for $60, but I only paid $65 for this one, so I'm happy. I think there was a dry bearing initially, it would squeal and shutter. After quite a bit of oil and some running, it is now running smooth. When I have more time I'll have to tear down the motor and get that cleaned up. I've heard that the new Singer grease isn't good for these motors any more. Can anyone confirm, refute or recommend something else? Also, has anyone ever tried using one of these old adjustable hemmers before (second down on the right)?

gmcttr
05-31-2014, 19:54
...I've heard that the new Singer grease isn't good for these motors any more. Can anyone confirm, refute or recommend something else? ...

That's the word on the vintage Singer/sewing machine forums. Plain no additive Vaseline petroleum jelly is recommended. It has the low melting point required to flow through the grease wicks to lube the bearings.

Nice centennial badged 201-2.

Mouseskowitz
05-31-2014, 20:00
That's the word on the vintage Singer/sewing machine forums. Plain no additive Vaseline petroleum jelly is recommended. It has the low melting point required to flow through the grease wicks to lube the bearings.

Nice centennial badged 201-2.

That's what I had thought I had seen at one point. Thanks. Any experience with that hemmer?

gmcttr
05-31-2014, 20:21
I think I played with it once. Like all hemmers it must have a learning curve that I don't have the patience for.:laugh:

squidbilly
05-31-2014, 21:24
I think I played with it once. Like all hemmers it must have a learning curve that I don't have the patience for.:laugh:

That was my experience with it too.

kayak4water
06-01-2014, 00:47
86904

I use this for so many projects. It doesn't handle thick stuff without me helping out, but for hammock stuff, it hits the spot. It has a drop in bobbin. easy to thread. not too heavy.

I got it after I got shown the door at work for being me. I had started using a sewing machine as a teenager and this was the perfect pick-me-up. Well, life sometimes has a way of getting better without anything really changing. I simply realized that work really interfered far too much with life, stopped looking and began living.

I love my Taiwan made Viking. Life is a treat!

Mario
06-01-2014, 10:21
Lots of nice old machines so figure I would show mine. It was given to me 20 some years ago. I do believe this is a Japan made 1/2 size machine, it's about all I know.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040117_zps4c3fc4f1.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040117_zps4c3fc4f1.jpg.html)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040116_zps5762d54a.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040116_zps5762d54a.jpg.html)

gmcttr
06-01-2014, 10:30
That's a cute "little" machine. A reduced size 15 clone. I bet it makes a nice "full size" stitch.

Mario
06-01-2014, 14:03
That's a cute "little" machine. A reduced size 15 clone. I bet it makes a nice "full size" stitch.

I have a problem with getting a perfect stitch with it. So drop by a Thrift store today and pick up this Riccar, don't know if it's a good machine but has more features and comes in a case and only $20.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040118_zps6e710463.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040118_zps6e710463.jpg.html)

Manual included which is a bonus.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040121_zps3f9a9532.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040121_zps3f9a9532.jpg.html)

Also has a snap on table.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040123_zps642c87dc.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040123_zps642c87dc.jpg.html)

yooz85
06-01-2014, 16:35
Here is what I have using for some of my DIY projects, It's a Husgvarna Viking Selectronic 6570. It is a great machine and has lots of features, so many that it makes it very complicated.

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86943&d=1401657066

This is my new toy I found at a garage sale yesterday. I got it for a whopping $40. It's a Singer Style-o-matic, it came with the manual and a bunch of accessories. A good cleaning and greased it up and it runs like a dream. I am excited to get some more DIY projects done with this machine.

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86942&d=1401656990

Debi Jaytee
06-01-2014, 22:21
Stylomatic is an excellent machine. I got my mums last Christmas and absolutely love it!

Welyjr
06-02-2014, 09:33
I was just given a Singer 401-A slant-O-Matic in a cabinet. I can't wait to get it fired up 😃http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/nyzu3a6a.jpg

gmcttr
06-02-2014, 10:09
I was just given a Singer 401-A slant-O-Matic in a cabinet...

Good machines, but if the fancy stitch patterns don't work well, it's just a matter of getting the old gummed up oil freed up.

FJRpilot
06-08-2014, 10:20
I couldn't resist, after hearing so much about the Necchi machines, I had an opportunity to pick this up.

I paid more the I probably should have but what the heck... You only live once. Just finished sorting it out and it runs really well... Now I understand why folks like these machines. I also got the last of my supplies needed to start my first project. So next week I will make my first DIY hammock....

gmcttr
06-08-2014, 10:36
I couldn't resist....

Sweet! I've got three Supernovas and love them. Did you get a fairly complete accessory set with it?

FJRpilot
06-08-2014, 13:32
Sweet! I've got three Supernovas and love them. Did you get a fairly complete accessory set with it?

I did, it came with the accessory box including the complete set of cams, original manual, supplementary instruction manual and a few odds and ends. Even the case is in good shape. I'm jazzed.... Would you mind if I reached out to you with typical noob questions?

gmcttr
06-08-2014, 13:35
I'd be happy to help if I can.

Ricky&Jack
06-08-2014, 13:44
Lots of nice old machines so figure I would show mine. It was given to me 20 some years ago. I do believe this is a Japan made 1/2 size machine, it's about all I know.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040117_zps4c3fc4f1.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040117_zps4c3fc4f1.jpg.html)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/Ruckster/P1040116_zps5762d54a.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Ruckster/media/P1040116_zps5762d54a.jpg.html)


Ive been seeing a bunch of these older antique type machines. (Probably not the same one, but the same looking shape)

But they never come with manuals. Are they relatively easy to use?

I have a cheap $30 mini machine that does only 1 type of stitch. But i was looking for a nice machine to use, instead.

Most of these antique looking ones seem to go for $50 in 'working' condition. So I thought it may be a good strong machine to use. But I have pretty much zero experience with machines (About 2 hours of sewing cut up pieces of t-shirts.)

Are these pretty easy to figure out and thread, with little experience?

I figure the $50 'working' ones on craigslist are a good deal..... But if the are difficult to thread and learn, then it's as good as worthless.

Mouseskowitz
06-08-2014, 14:21
Ive been seeing a bunch of these older antique type machines. (Probably not the same one, but the same looking shape)

But they never come with manuals. Are they relatively easy to use?

I have a cheap $30 mini machine that does only 1 type of stitch. But i was looking for a nice machine to use, instead.

Most of these antique looking ones seem to go for $50 in 'working' condition. So I thought it may be a good strong machine to use. But I have pretty much zero experience with machines (About 2 hours of sewing cut up pieces of t-shirts.)

Are these pretty easy to figure out and thread, with little experience?

I figure the $50 'working' ones on craigslist are a good deal..... But if the are difficult to thread and learn, then it's as good as worthless.

I can't speak for other machines as I don't have experience with them, but the old Singers are very straight forward. The older ones will have a serial number on the front right corner of the base. Look that up here (http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-sewing-machine-serial-number-database.html) and it will tell you what the model number is and when it was made. You should be able to find the manuals for all the common models online for free.
Most of the "working" ones on CL just need some cleaning and oil. One thing to watch out for in the older machines is the condition of the power cords. Cords are easily replaced though. This is a popular source for cords, belts and what not (http://shop.sew-classic.com/).

FJRpilot
06-08-2014, 14:50
Ive been seeing a bunch of these older antique type machines. (Probably not the same one, but the same looking shape)

But they never come with manuals. Are they relatively easy to use?

Are these pretty easy to figure out and thread, with little experience?

I figure the $50 'working' ones on craigslist are a good deal..... But if the are difficult to thread and learn, then it's as good as worthless.

Those are a singer clones made by the Japanese right after the end of WW2. The work as well as the old singers themselves and most only do a straight stitch. The good news is that you can make 99.9 percent of the items on this forum with one. They Aldo are very capable of stitching heavier things like canvas, upholstery fabric. Although folks we'll show you that they can also punch leather (they can), these are not industrial machines designed for that. You will stress these older machine sewing thick leather.

If you can get one for $50, buy it...

squidbilly
06-08-2014, 16:52
I couldn't resist, after hearing so much about the Necchi machines, I had an opportunity to pick this up.

I paid more the I probably should have but what the heck... You only live once. Just finished sorting it out and it runs really well... Now I understand why folks like these machines. I also got the last of my supplies needed to start my first project. So next week I will make my first DIY hammock....

I saw your intro post on the Necchi sewing machine club - yahoo groups, and wondered if you were a HF member. I know you're gonna enjoy that Supernova as I have a few of them too. (among other models) Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to talk Necchi.

FJRpilot
06-08-2014, 18:12
I saw your intro post on the Necchi sewing machine club - yahoo groups, and wondered if you were a HF member. I know you're gonna enjoy that Supernova as I have a few of them too. (among other models) Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to talk Necchi.

Thanks, I'll take you up on that.... I've had it for 3 days and up till this morning it's been kicking my butt <grin>... I'm a lot more knowledgable about the Singers, I really like them a lot... But the Necchi is so smooth... I'm really glad I got it...

gmcttr
06-08-2014, 19:12
FJRpilot ... just hunted you up on the Necchi group. What kind of stitch problems are you having? Photo?

FJRpilot
06-08-2014, 19:57
FJRpilot ... just hunted you up on the Necchi group. What kind of stitch problems are you having? Photo?

Got it all sorted out, but thanks for the offer... It turned out to be the top tension. Someone had taken it apart and re-assembled it wrong. I didn't catch it until I had looked at almost everything else. The machine is running almost perfectly now. Still have a few minor issues to work out with the cams but the machine is everything I hoped it would be.

I'm thinking about replacing the stock foot controller for a new electronic one. Any thoughts or recommendations?

squidbilly
06-08-2014, 20:34
They're cheap (construction), but they work well.
http://shop.sew-classic.com/Foot-Control-Electronic-2-Wire-Type-UL-12-amp-SCE168FC.htm (http:// shop.sew-classic.com/Foot-Control-Electronic-2-Wire-Type-UL-12-amp-SCE168FC.htm)

gmcttr
06-08-2014, 20:56
This is the only new electronic controller I've tried...http://shop.sew-classic.com/Foot-Control-Electronic-2-Wire-Type-UL-12-amp-SCE168FC.htm

It works well, but the old controllers are more comfortable for me to use. I like being able to rest my foot on the stationary "button", only having to rock the ball of my foot down to push the active button.

I take the old carbon pile controllers apart, clean (and adjust if necessary) the brass contacts and clean the dust and (occasional) roughness off of the carbon disks by rubbing them across a sheet of newspaper. It really perks them up and provides better speed control. However, I don't recommend cleaning the carbon disks unless you also have a parts donor controller (broken case, burned up contacts, etc) as the disks are easily broken.

Ricky&Jack
06-09-2014, 13:23
Finally upgraded from a cheap $20 battery powered mini machine, to a Brother VX-808 machine. Saw the ad on craigslist for $50. So I went to the sewing machine store where it was being held at in chattanooga. So far, I am impressed. a huge upgrade from my previous piece of cr@p.

https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/3/2/1/7/photo_817_thumb.jpeg (https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=24150)
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/3/2/1/7/photo_820_thumb.jpeg (https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=24151)

came with the manuals. And 1 needle. I need to learn what all types of needles I will need. Im a complete newbie.

FJRpilot
06-09-2014, 21:10
Finally upgraded from a cheap $20 battery powered mini machine, to a Brother VX-808 machine. Saw the ad on craigslist for $50. So I went to the sewing machine store where it was being held at in chattanooga. So far, I am impressed. a huge upgrade from my previous piece of

Congrats of the acquisition, use it in good health and above all... Have fun..

bc2020
06-09-2014, 21:44
This was my grandmother's machine. I've had it for a while but until the past couple of weeks haven't really had anything to do with it or knew anything about it. I figured one day I'd get around to checking it out and using it and I figured it would be a good machine but I know nothing about sewing machines.

After a couple of weeks on here, I'm ready to start making my own UL stuff sacks, hammocks for my boys, UQs and on and on!

So, I broke it out to see what I had the other day and I think I'm pretty happy about it?!?!

It's a 70's model Sears / Kenmore 1601 Zig Zag Sewing Machine with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time oh, wait...

It's like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeCyhHjcqEA

I'm pretty excited now that I've got something to do with it. I have Hammock Forums (and Shug) to thank for that!

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Ricky&Jack
06-10-2014, 10:13
Are bobbins NOT universal?

I only received 1 bobbin with the machine I picked up yesterday. (the clear plastic one on the right)...... I had about 20 metal bobbins from an old portable machine (the metal one on the right).

I was able to thread the clear bobbin with no problem. But the 20 metal bobbins that I already had, do not fit. they a BARELY thicker. It's almost hard to see the difference, even in person. But they are just slightly bigger.... And they do not fit....... Well, i mean, they spin, but will not pull the thread to spool itself..... but my 1 plastic one works perfect.

Is there a way to know which one I need to buy? (I plan to take my clear one with me for comparison, but Im guessing since they will be in a package, it will be hard to make certain its the same exact size...... since the metal ones I have look almost identical, and its hard to see that there is infact a difference)

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VictoriaGuy
06-10-2014, 10:22
Are bobbins NOT universal?

Definitely not.
They can vary 'every which way'...some have one flat and one curved face, center hole can be different size, width varies, etc. Within one brand in my machine collection they tend to be the same (Pfaff-style bobbins, Viking/Husqvarna-style, etc. ) but I'm not sure this is a 'rule'.

Your local sewing machine shop (if you have one) or eBay are good sources for bobbins, IME. Fortunately the generic plastic ones are the cheapest - I bought a bobbin box online (for the box) and it came loaded with 20+ clear bobbins - cost was a couple of dollars, including shipping.

It IS important to get the right bobbin in the bobbin case as the wrong one can cause all sorts of frustration in sewing. On top of that there is the problem of winding the bobbin on the machine as you have discovered.
:)

Bubba
06-10-2014, 10:22
Are bobbins NOT universal?

I only received 1 bobbin with the machine I picked up yesterday. (the clear plastic one on the right)...... I had about 20 metal bobbins from an old portable machine (the metal one on the right).

I was able to thread the clear bobbin with no problem. But the 20 metal bobbins that I already had, do not fit. they a BARELY thicker. It's almost hard to see the difference, even in person. But they are just slightly bigger.... And they do not fit....... Well, i mean, they spin, but will not pull the thread to spool itself..... but my 1 plastic one works perfect.

Is there a way to know which one I need to buy? (I plan to take my clear one with me for comparison, but Im guessing since they will be in a package, it will be hard to make certain its the same exact size...... since the metal ones I have look almost identical, and its hard to see that there is infact a difference)

87372

The machine looks like it takes a class 15 bobbin and bobbin case but there are differences among cases. Do you have the bobbin case that fits the metal bobbins? Maybe that bobbin case will fit into the Brother?

gmcttr
06-10-2014, 10:57
The machine looks like it takes a class 15 bobbin...

Yep, what little I'm finding says it takes a class 15 bobbin.

Ricky&Jack
06-10-2014, 15:23
thanks. I was able to get a link to http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/brother-vx808-sewing-machine-parts.aspx?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%28roi%29+brother+-+%28sku%29&utm_content=brother+vx808&utm_term=brother+vx-808&utm_creative=e over on the WB forum.

I still can not for the life of me, find the year this machine came from. Didn't even see a date on its box or in the manual. Im thinking mid 80's tho.

fishbait
06-20-2014, 09:24
My Thread Injector more or less gave up the ghost, it really needs to be serviced. It's a Singer 237 that sat unused in my wife's grandmother's house. I kept talking about getting it serviced, but my Mother-in-Law insists that it's not worth the effort. So just to make sure I didn't spend the money on getting it serviced, my wife and Mother-in-Law bought me a Viking Emerald 116 for my Birthday in May. I finally set the machine up last night, will post some picks tonight then try running some thread through it. I have a couple tree straps I want to make, so that should be a could test.

gmcttr
06-20-2014, 09:31
Now go ahead and get the Singer 237 back in good running condition. :laugh: It is one of the last models Singer made with all metal gears. Chances are all it needs is a thorough cleaning in the bobbin/hook area and oil in all the right places.

VictoriaGuy
06-20-2014, 11:23
Now go ahead and get the Singer 237 back in good running condition. :laugh: It is one of the last models Singer made with all metal gears. Chances are all it needs is a thorough cleaning in the bobbin/hook area and oil in all the right places.

+1
Nice simple handyman project...take out the bobbin& bobbin case, needle and upper thread, get some sewing machine oil and clean the bobbin area up with a little brush, oil things that move and give it a good run...
Don't loosen any setscrews!

Though, personally, I'd never choose a Singer over a Viking Husqvarna....:)

squidbilly
06-21-2014, 11:36
My Thread Injector more or less gave up the ghost, it really needs to be serviced. It's a Singer 237 that sat unused in my wife's grandmother's house. I kept talking about getting it serviced, but my Mother-in-Law insists that it's not worth the effort. So just to make sure I didn't spend the money on getting it serviced, my wife and Mother-in-Law bought me a Viking Emerald 116 for my Birthday in May. I finally set the machine up last night, will post some picks tonight then try running some thread through it. I have a couple tree straps I want to make, so that should be a could test.

What's wrong with it? If you need it, I have a 237 that was given to me, just sitting around taking up space. I haven't had time to work on it.

SCWalker
06-21-2014, 19:46
The Singer 237 is worthy of a repair bill.They are really tough machines and capable of doing some leather work.

Spaceman
06-23-2014, 20:47
I just inherited this machine from my grandmother and was wondering if it would be appropriate for DIY duties. It hasn't run in years so will definitely need a tune up. Is anyone familiar with this brand/model (Archer Finesse 807, made in Poland)? I'm new to both thread injectors and DIY gear, so I'm not even sure if this model has the features I need. Any input would be appreciated. I can't find much online about Archer, but I think it's related to the Singer 800 line.

Machine with table (have the legs but need to reattach them after moving the machine to my house)
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6207_zps99c30a8f.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6207_zps99c30a8f.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6201_zpsbd2239c0.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6201_zpsbd2239c0.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6202_zps3182d919.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6202_zps3182d919.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6203_zpsecbeb6dd.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6203_zpsecbeb6dd.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6204_zps51ee44f3.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6204_zps51ee44f3.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6205_zps5f5917bd.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6205_zps5f5917bd.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6206_zpsc5c19154.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6206_zpsc5c19154.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6208_zpsd8682056.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6208_zpsd8682056.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6209_zpsf27abbf9.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6209_zpsf27abbf9.jpg.html)

DrPappy
06-23-2014, 21:54
This machine should do anything you need to do if functioning properly. The knobs indicate it will do straight stitch and zig zag. Needle position can be moved to the left, center, or right position. The reverse button is in the center of the round knob (stitch length selector). No experience with this brand specifically though. Looks like it may use a class 66 bobbin. Good luck on the search for a manual online and enjoy!

Bubba
06-23-2014, 22:26
Here are a few more I picked up over the last few months

An over 100 year old White Treadle machine with vibrating shuttle
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/dscf0647.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/dscf0645.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/dscf0653.jpg


A Singer 127
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/dscf0639.jpg


A Singer 128 which I have later added a hand crank from Sew Classic
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/6/7/9/8/dscf0635.jpg

FJRpilot
06-23-2014, 23:38
Here are a few more I picked up over the last few months


Very nice, I have to keep telling myself... "I have enough to make gear...... I have enough....." 😜

j3T
06-27-2014, 02:03
Are bobbins NOT universal?

I only received 1 bobbin with the machine I picked up yesterday. (the clear plastic one on the right)...... I had about 20 metal bobbins from an old portable machine (the metal one on the right).

I was able to thread the clear bobbin with no problem. But the 20 metal bobbins that I already had, do not fit. they a BARELY thicker. It's almost hard to see the difference, even in person. But they are just slightly bigger.... And they do not fit....... Well, i mean, they spin, but will not pull the thread to spool itself..... but my 1 plastic one works perfect.

Is there a way to know which one I need to buy? (I plan to take my clear one with me for comparison, but Im guessing since they will be in a package, it will be hard to make certain its the same exact size...... since the metal ones I have look almost identical, and its hard to see that there is infact a difference)

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Bobbins are not universal. Not knowing your machine make and model, it is difficult to guess which bobbin you need. It appears your clear bobbin is a Class 66 bobbin (slightly rounded ends), while your metal one appears to be a Class 15 bobbin, but I may be wrong. Take the working one into a sewing store and they can help. Otherwise, do that very un-male thing and read your sm instruction manual.

paper
06-27-2014, 13:10
The bug has bit.. I have a sewing machine I can use, but it's a 30 minute drive to my parent's house and my retired mother has more than once mentioned how she hates sewing on nylon.. While I enjoy visiting my parents, I don't like subjecting my mother to something she'd rather not do.. She has my father to live with, so that's bad enough. :)

Anyway, I thought about buying used, or at a resale shop, Goodwill, etc.. Then I said screw it.. :shades:

So, I searched and found that Walmart has Brother CE1100PRW Computerized machines that are reconditioned but still have a great warranty for $87.. They supposedly sold for $400 before.. Eh.. I don't care.. As long as it'll sew straight and zigzag, I'm happy..

I haven't sewn since trying to pick up handy girls in High School, so I'm sure my talents are rusty or just terrible, but I'm willing to try..

Anyway this is what I bought.. Should be here next week..

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My goal is to make my own snake skins, storage bags, poncho liner underquilts, and maybe even hammocks..

I've got stuff to make poncho liner underquilts and I plan on them being a bit more fancy and I'm making one for myself, my nephew, and then maybe make a few more to sell and help pay for supplies. Nothing crazy, but just make a few bucks which won't ever get close to paying for my time, anyway.. :)

Today I grabbed a new pair of really sharp scissors, some pins, a seam ripper, thread and Grosgrain ribbon, and a tackle box to put all this crap into..
So, I thank everyone ahead of time for my seemingly stupid questions..

Oh, and my Mother is already asking to see the machine.. She mumbled something about how I should trade with her.. :)

Thom
07-01-2014, 17:16
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I picked this up today for $35. Now I just need some better needles and thread.

Mouseskowitz
07-01-2014, 20:38
I picked this up today for $35. Now I just need some better needles and thread.

I picked up some of these (http://www.discountembroiderysupply.com/Microtex-Needles-%28Spi%29) in 80/12 not long ago. The only down side is the $25 minimum order, but now I have 100 needles which will probably last close to a lifetime. DIY Gear Supply (http://diygearsupply.com/product/gutermann-mara/) is where I've been getting my Mara 70. It seems to be the best all use size thread.

Thom
07-01-2014, 21:32
I have to wait until Thursday before I can order some thread. Also, nice Vibrams.

e_2
07-02-2014, 13:37
...I haven't sewn since trying to pick up handy girls in High School...

Wait, what? Sewing as a way to pick up girls? I should have a harem by now. :lol:

paper
07-02-2014, 13:41
Wait, what? Sewing as a way to pick up girls? I should have a harem by now. :lol:

Unfortunately, it didn't work back then, either.. :)

Thom
07-02-2014, 18:23
Now that I have a sewing machine, my wife wants me to fix some of her clothes. I told her that all I know how to do is sew a straight line, well somewhat straight.

The Old Boot
07-02-2014, 18:56
Now that I have a sewing machine, my wife wants me to fix some of her clothes. I told her that all I know how to do is sew a straight line, well somewhat straight.

If you want some serious brownie points, I'm sure we can mentor you here! There's a few seamstresses hiding amongst us. Just tell us what the project is.

Oh, and start a new thread in DIY so we don't muck up the one (or PMs work too.)

Thom
07-02-2014, 21:51
I have plenty of experience sewing. Sewed quite a few hammocks for people. Was using my old roommates sewing machine to do so though. I moved out and got married a couple months ago and didn't have my own sewing machine. Now I can get back to sewing.

paper
07-03-2014, 21:54
My new sewing machine won't be in for a few more days, so I borrowed my Mother's Brother (not my uncle) :) and made my first PluQ today..

Everything worked great, and I learned that 7/8" grosgrain ribbon isn't wide enough for practical use. I'll be getting some 1.5" tomorrow. :)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/djpagel/photo18.jpg

Mouseskowitz
07-07-2014, 02:33
I saw more machines this weekend than I can shake a stick at. First we were at my Wife's Grandma's house and I looked at her sewing room with new eyes. She has an industrial Singer with 1/2 HP motor, a Viking that has too many buttons for me to want to touch and a couple surgers that I wouldn't know what to do with. But then there's the nice big cutting table, that I could make good use of, and the rolls and rolls of nylon under it, even if it isn't ripstop.

Then on the way home we stopped in and saw a collection and got almost a 3 hour history lesson on treadles. That made me what to get mine up and running. The guy had about 80 machines, mostly treadles, filling the house and multiple garages. I have no desire to quilt, but I may have to try an all treadle complete hammock setup one of these days. Some of those old treadles are truly beautiful machines both mechanically and esthetically.

I was also told about this video, haven't had time to watch it yet. It's called BIRTH OF A SEWING MACHINE (http://ssa.nls.uk/film/1592). It's 70 minutes long and shows all aspects of the Singer line at the Clydebank factory.

gmcttr
07-07-2014, 06:23
I bought the DVD of that movie a couple of years ago from them and thoroughly enjoyed it. You will be amazed at the size of the lumber yard for cabinets. It's a truly fascinating look at the processes of the time. The online resolution doesn't do it justice.

momtaxi
07-07-2014, 12:57
Please forgive me being boring, I love sewing machines and have owned a lot of different ones. Feel free to skip my post!

This is my main machine. I bought her used off ebay sort of by mistake a good number of years ago. She has been fantastic and I am completely spoiled by some of the features. She baulks a little at really heavy stuff but I have a rocketeer (no picture) -- a singer 503a that I drag out for that who could sew through a tree or two. Plus the rocketeers are so pretty.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3913/14597879375_373b38b5cd_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oeXWXr)image (https://flic.kr/p/oeXWXr) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

This is my workhorse though, my serger. Please excuse the mess, I am a messy sew-er. I had a fancy Bernina one that I had to sell many years ago when we had a very expensive plumbing problem. I went to Walmart and bought a $150 machine to tide me over. I made hundreds of cloth diapers on this machine sewing through four layers of towelling and other heavy duty fabrics. This machine is 12 years old, has never been professionally serviced and treated very poorly because I thought it was a temporary solution. I later bought a TOL Baby lock and sold it, I like this better. It is loud and not very sophisticated but is the machine I use more than anything.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3920/14597229182_ba45203ba1_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oeUBFd)image (https://flic.kr/p/oeUBFd) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I also use my son's lotus, especially when I need to go somewhere. It is a ¾ size and so fun. No free arm though which makes kids clothes a little tricky. This was a bargain ebay machine, it cost less than $100 and was in fantastic shape with all original doodads except the original needles. He does not appreciate it at all now but loved it when he was young.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3891/14597875715_617df24b39_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oeXVSk)image (https://flic.kr/p/oeXVSk) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2912/14597874015_185be120b6_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oeXVn2)image (https://flic.kr/p/oeXVn2) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I also have a Viking 6440 that needs a spare part and came to me broken. It has sat for some time though, perhaps when #1 son goes to college...

I think my favourite machine ever was a Pfaff 1471 I bought from an estate sale without trying it. It was $25 but needed extensive repairs and I baulked when the local pfaff dealer told me how much. He told me that it was worth it and if I didn't like her when she was fixed up he would buy it from me at a profit. She sewed very beautifully and the dual feed on the pfaffs is a pleasure to sew with, especially on slippery muck like nylon. My friend adored her and persuaded me to sell her to her. I also had a Pfaff 1222e that was a fantastic machine. I sold her to pay for the repairs on the 1471. If you find either of these machines in good repair you will be very happy with them!

gmcttr
07-07-2014, 16:10
Please forgive me being boring...

PLEASE continue to "bore" us.:thumbup:

VictoriaGuy
07-07-2014, 19:27
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I think my favourite machine ever was a Pfaff 1471 I bought from an estate sale without trying it. It was $25 but needed extensive repairs and I baulked when the local pfaff dealer told me how much. He told me that it was worth it and if I didn't like her when she was fixed up he would buy it from me at a profit. She sewed very beautifully and the dual feed on the pfaffs is a pleasure to sew with, especially on slippery muck like nylon. My friend adored her and persuaded me to sell her to her. I also had a Pfaff 1222e that was a fantastic machine. I sold her to pay for the repairs on the 1471. If you find either of these machines in good repair you will be very happy with them!
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I really like my Pfaff 1222SE machine...and I fixed my wife's 1222E after a (plastic) gear failed when I was 'borrowing' the machine from her..so now we have two in our 'collection'.:)
Love the Pfaff dual feed....

Thanks for the interesting post about your machines.

FJRpilot
07-07-2014, 20:11
Please forgive me being boring, I love sewing machines and have owned a lot of different ones. Feel free to skip my post!


Great post Momtaxi, I appreciate your shaing and look forward to asking you many stupid questions 😀

We will all benefit by your experience..

momtaxi
07-07-2014, 20:33
Ok I'm glad I didn't bore you all rigid!

OOH, what is an SE? My husband would kill me if he knew I was looking wistfully at pfaffs on ebay. If I could have my viking with the pfaff dual feed I think that would be very cool. When I got my 1222e it had a broken plastic something, whatever that something is that always goes on that machine.

I've sewn on a good number of other machines. One of my best friend's is a featherweight aficionado and and I've sewn on her machine a number of times. I'll give you that they are adorable and easy to schlep around but I found the flat bed really slippery on it and it has no free arm which makes sewing baby clothes a little tricky. Another friend had an Elna Grasshopper, cool good machine, but she also had a PF 1221 and I couldn't see much past that. I learned on my mother's Frister Rossman. Fantastic machine, but the plastic is breaking on it. A number of years ago she ended up buying a pfaff after using one of mine and really liking the quality of the stitch. One machine brand that has a lot of fans is Bernina, but I really don't like their modern machines and I SERIOUSLY don't like their presser foot prices.

Gosh, I forgot to mention. The reason I ended up with my current machine is because I went to a sewing convention in WA state (the one in Puyallup) and a friend raved about her Viking #1 (the previous ToL from Viking before the Designer series). I found one cheap on ebay selling at midnight and bought it. Lovely little machine. My friend still has hers, I sold mine for a profit and upgraded to the designer.

Did I mention I have a very tolerant husband?

RedStix
07-08-2014, 05:39
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/08/varune6a.jpg

Here is my wife's classic singer.

gmcttr
07-08-2014, 08:58
Nice 301 !

momtaxi
07-08-2014, 09:14
ooh shiny, the decals look in good shape!

VictoriaGuy
07-08-2014, 13:02
OOH, what is an SE? My husband would kill me if he knew I was looking wistfully at pfaffs on ebay. If I could have my viking with the pfaff dual feed I think that would be very cool. When I got my 1222e it had a broken plastic something, whatever that something is that always goes on that machine.

There's not much difference between the 1222E and 1222SE as far as I can tell.
1222SE: Different color scheme (not an improvement, IMO)
Snap-on feet

A lot of the comments I've read online about the 1222 machines are from folks who either don't know how to operate the machine (no manual?) and miss features like the Stopmatic control on the presser foot lever, or are using machines that have 'problems'.

Aside from the plastic gears failing, the other common problem is the power switch. If you are lucky, it will break in the 'ON' position and you can just improvise by plugging and unplugging the cord. You can (still- but for how long?) get power switches online.

jimnlacy
07-10-2014, 22:02
My Kenmore 158-15000

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/uqamujam.jpg

Had some issues initially but they have been worked out. Weighs a lot. Built like a tank. I am growing used to her style.

squidbilly
07-10-2014, 22:12
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/08/varune6a.jpg

Here is my wife's classic singer.



Very nice! The 301s are my wife's favorites, especially the black longbeds. Those and the featherweights.

jimnlacy
07-11-2014, 20:33
My new 301http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/12/u9e7a8yb.jpg

squidbilly
07-12-2014, 20:56
My wife says thanks for the pic, jimnlacy. Here's one of her 301s and some quilt squares. (she's a quilter)
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jimnlacy
07-13-2014, 01:12
Squidbilly, my pleasure. My wife quilts also. Nice sampler quilt picture of your wife's work.

FJRpilot
07-13-2014, 09:27
My new 301http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/12/u9e7a8yb.jpg

If you haven't found this site yet... Great info on the 301...

http://singer301.com/index.html

jimnlacy
07-13-2014, 09:58
FJRpilot, thanks. Interesting stuff.

snidetripod
07-19-2014, 17:42
WHITE MODEL 1418
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/y7aqyvab.jpg
Just picked this little baby up today for $$$ twenty dollars $$$ off Kijiji. It runs great, and I will be downloading the manual for it to find the lube spots and familiarize myself with it fully.
It came with an array of presser feet, of which I know nothing about, maybe if anyone knows what feet these are they can tell me names and their proper application.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/py3e6u9e.jpg
I am finally on my way into the DIY pool. Now for some materials, I think I will make a gathered end hammock, a bug net, a ridgeline organizer, a stuff sack......

momtaxi
07-19-2014, 18:16
It is hard to tell because I don't have the same brand and I can't see the underside of them but I know some of these

from left to right
buttonhole, not sure (maybe a foot with an adjustable guide for stitching in the ditch?), straight stitch (ONLY!), button (will hold a button while the machine sews it on), all purpose zig zag etc, not sure maybe cording foot, another straight stitch which looks like it might be a ¼" foot, zipper foot, rolled hem, all purpose clear foot.

snidetripod
07-19-2014, 18:18
It is hard to tell because I don't have the same brand and I can't see the underside of them but I know some of these

from left to right
buttonhole, not sure (maybe free motion quilting/embroidery), straight stitch (ONLY!), button (will hold a button while the machine sews it on), all purpose zig zag etc, not sure, another straight stitch which looks like it might be a ¼" foot, zipper foot, rolled hem, all purpose clear foot.
Thank you Momtaxi.

Will this rolled hem foot work for the rolled hem on my hammock body?

momtaxi
07-19-2014, 18:26
you caught me while I was changing :eek: I edited after you C&Ped

It looks like it makes a little tiny rolled hem, it may say on it the size of the hem.

Mouseskowitz
07-19-2014, 18:45
Thank you Momtaxi.

Will this rolled hem foot work for the rolled hem on my hammock body?

Yours might be different, but my Singer feet are 1/8". If it is 1/4", that would work great for hammock bodies, and tarp edges.

Mouseskowitz
07-19-2014, 19:05
I brought home a new machine today. This is a 1941 Singer 15-88 (native treadle). This was the first cabinet that I tried Howard Restore A Finish on. I was pleased with the results and decided to do another one of my cabinets today as well. Of course it came with a bunch of mainly useless attachments. Now I just need to clean a couple things up on the head and see if I can manage to not screw up setting up a new belt. Then it will be time to make some foot powered hammock gear.

momtaxi
07-19-2014, 20:27
mwhahahaha! I have the powah! (although I forget which machine these are for, probably my rocketeer).

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3867/14508478349_8ca8e81efd_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o74K9r)image (https://flic.kr/p/o74K9r) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

momtaxi
07-19-2014, 20:31
actually I think I'm wrong, it looks low shank so probably my vikings

http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/3744/mastering-the-narrow-hemmer-part-one for those who want some help

momtaxi
07-19-2014, 20:31
Cabinet looks stunning!

Why are the attachments useless? There look to be some nice ones there.

squidbilly
07-19-2014, 20:40
I brought home a new machine today. This is a 1941 Singer 15-88 (native treadle). This was the first cabinet that I tried Howard Restore A Finish on. I was pleased with the results and decided to do another one of my cabinets today as well. Of course it came with a bunch of mainly useless attachments. Now I just need to clean a couple things up on the head and see if I can manage to not screw up setting up a new belt. Then it will be time to make some foot powered hammock gear.

Now that's nice. A 15-88 should be a great machine to treadle. I have a treadle cabinet just like yours, but it came with a crinkle finish, blackside 127 from 1941.
I was wondering today how many of us use a treadle: mine is my primary machine.

squidbilly
07-19-2014, 20:42
mwhahahaha! I have the powah! (although I forget which machine these are for, probably my rocketeer).

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3867/14508478349_8ca8e81efd_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o74K9r)image (https://flic.kr/p/o74K9r) by oScarlet (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

These work very well with ripstop.

Mouseskowitz
07-19-2014, 20:50
Cabinet looks stunning!

Why are the attachments useless? There look to be some nice ones there.

In the grand scheme of things they're not useless, but for gear making they don't have a purpose that I'm aware of. I guess the four on the left have a use, not the three on the right though. I guess someone could put ruffles on their hammock, but it won't be me.

gmcttr
07-19-2014, 21:00
...This was the first cabinet that I tried Howard Restore A Finish on...

Good stuff isn't it? :thumbup1:

VictoriaGuy
07-20-2014, 20:22
I couldn't help myself...:)

Pfaff 1222 @ $70...

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BTW, sometimes you need luck- I emailed as soon as I noticed the ad, and within 45 minutes the seller had 8 replies. Fortunately I was first on the list.....

jimnlacy
07-20-2014, 21:24
Great luck and cool injector. How do you like it do far?

VictoriaGuy
07-20-2014, 22:26
Great luck and cool injector. How do you like it so far?

I actually already have a 1222SE - bought so I wouldn't have to use my wife's 1222E any more....:laugh: ...so I'm still figuring out exactly why I bought this one!

Needless to say I really like the Pfaffs, especially the 1222 series machines, in spite of the fact that they do have a few 'nylon' a.k.a. plastic parts in the mechanism (70s era....used plastic to make the machines more quiet).

The 'top feed' presser foot (sort of halfway to a real walking foot) is really handy when working with slippery fabric.
They also have a 'two forward, one back' locking stitch that I like for webbing and tieouts where I don't want things to come unstitched.

momtaxi
07-20-2014, 23:32
Man you are really making me miss my 1222. I started looking on ebay the other day.

VictoriaGuy
07-20-2014, 23:40
Man you are really making me miss my 1222. I started looking on ebay the other day.

If you haven't found your way there already, check out the old Pfaff Forum on Yahoo Groups. There are some very knowledgeable people there with info on repairs and common problems....some of which are apparently obvious even in eBay photos.

momtaxi
07-21-2014, 00:42
I might still be a member of those!

MagicPaddler
07-24-2014, 10:12
Picked a Singer 9444 out of the garbage. The lady told me it ran fine several years ago but when they tried to use it now it was frozen up. When I mentioned stripped plastic gears she said it did make a gurrr sound. By rocking the hand wheel I can see ever thing except the piece under the bobbin rotates. With the liberal use of Kroil oil and a pair of pliers on the bottom of the gear under the bobbin and rocking the hand wheel I made a full round with the bobbin gear. Let it set over night with Kroil on it and it was still stiff this morning. Bottom line is that while trying to free it up I found that the setscrew for the mating gear was loose. This allowed the mating gear to slip horizontally on the shaft to the point where they could slip. Probably why the gears are not stripped. In the picture I have removed the bobbin gear and cleaned out most of the gunk. By putting vise grips on the shaft and rotating with lots of oil it now turns freely. The gears have been reassembled and the machine runs freely. Now how do I get the proper phasing between the top and bottom of the machine?
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd254/Magicpaddler/Singer/P1010890_zps97375390.jpg

FJRpilot
07-24-2014, 10:26
Picked a Singer 9444 out of the garbage. The lady told me it ran fine several years ago but when they tried to use it now it was frozen up. When I mentioned stripped plastic gears she said it did make a gurrr sound. By rocking the hand wheel I can see ever thing except the piece under the bobbin rotates. With the liberal use of Kroil oil and a pair of pliers on the bottom of the gear under the bobbin and rocking the hand wheel I made a full round with the bobbin gear. Let it set over night with Kroil on it and it was still stiff this morning. Bottom line is that while trying to free it up I found that the setscrew for the mating gear was loose. This allowed the mating gear to slip horizontally on the shaft to the point where they could slip. Probably why the gears are not stripped. In the picture I have removed the bobbin gear and cleaned out most of the gunk. By putting vise grips on the shaft and rotating with lots of oil it now turns freely. The gears have been reassembled and the machine runs freely. Now how do I get the proper phasing between the top and bottom of the machine?
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd254/Magicpaddler/Singer/P1010890_zps97375390.jpg

Kerosene and Marvel Mystery Oil cures everything.....

gmcttr
07-24-2014, 11:07
...Now how do I get the proper phasing between the top and bottom of the machine?...

It goes similar to this...

http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/457timing/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzhR6PNlI4E

Google "Timing a (your brand/model here)".

It's fairly easy once you understand the concept or have directions for your specific machine.

VictoriaGuy
07-24-2014, 18:31
I couldn't help myself....:laugh:

Yesterday's local find: Elna Supermatic Type 722010 . Knee control.
$50 with case and a pretty full set of accessories, including the #03 cam which is required for zig-zag.
And, no flat spot on the driver wheel, so only a dusting and oiling was required to get it performing well.
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opie
07-24-2014, 18:41
I couldn't help myself....:laugh:

Yesterday's local find: Elna Supermatic Type 722010 . Knee control.
$50 with case and a pretty full set of accessories, including the #03 cam which is required for zig-zag.
And, no flat spot on the driver wheel, so only a dusting and oiling was required to get it performing well.
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Im envious. All those around here are missing all the accessories.

VictoriaGuy
07-24-2014, 19:00
Im envious. All those around here are missing all the accessories.
It's not hard to understand - when the cams bring $10+ each on eBay, etc., the temptation is great. The other thing that happens is that machines get separated from 'Granny's sewing basket and sewing desk' where all the bits were stored.
Good news is that for most gear making you really only need straight stitch and a normal presser foot. The Elna ZZ cam is still available.

You just have to be patient, I think. I'm in the habit of checking the local ads in the morning. For months there's nothing very 'interesting', then within a week I find two 'gotta have it' machines at the right prices.
If you are looking for a machine that was 'top-of-the-line' back in the day, it also helps to be in an area that was once fairly prosperous - some of those machines cost quite a bit .... a $250 sewing machine when a new Ford/Chev was $2000 was a big deal. I remember paying $700+ for a Pfaff 1222E in '76 and in the same year I think I paid $4000 for a new Plymouth....so it's almost like those $10k+ machines being sold today.

Any local gear makers that need a good machine should contact me!:)

MagicPaddler
07-24-2014, 19:25
gmcttr
Thanks you got me on the correct track. I found this video the best.
http://vimeo.com/7082242
The machine is working now but still missing stitches especially on wide zigzag.

VictoriaGuy
07-24-2014, 23:05
It goes similar to this...

http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/457timing/



Google "Timing a (your brand/model here)".

It's fairly easy once you understand the concept or have directions for your specific machine.

That's an excellent explanation in the sewinginfo.co.uk link. It covers checking that the needlebar height is correct as well as the timing of the hook.
The basic idea is that the hook should be lined up with the needle after the needle has 'bottomed out' and risen back up a short (2mm is typical) distance. The thread loop is only formed under the fabric once the needle starts to rise back up.
Wide zig-zag is the most demanding test of timing, since one loop is formed earlier than with straight stitching, then the next is formed later than when straight stitching (needle in the middle position). It can take a bit of re-adjustment to get it stitching properly at both extremes.

Make sure you have the correct needle (type/class) in the machine - I've seen thrift shop machines with a couple of different length needles in the accessory box!

Spaceman
07-24-2014, 23:42
I'm still learning about my new-to-me machine. Posted this earlier.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6201_zpsbd2239c0.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6201_zpsbd2239c0.jpg.html)

I couldn't find anything specific on the Archer brand, except that it was made in a Singer factory in Poland. It's also the same as a White flat-bed Model 807 and I was able to track down a manual for one of those.

Along with the machine, I inherited a few different presser feet. I was hoping someone with more experience could tell me the type of feet I have and what their application would be. I know the one on the machine is for straight stitches, but I'm not sure about the others. I'm not sure the others even fit the Archer. They just came with the rest of Grandma's sewing stuff and she owned a number of machines over the years.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6205_zps5f5917bd.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6205_zps5f5917bd.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6840_zpsf5be3f02.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6840_zpsf5be3f02.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6835_zps6230e681.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6835_zps6230e681.jpg.html)

Thanks for your help.

momtaxi
07-25-2014, 02:04
Don't know, narrow rolled hem, don't know (maybe free motion?? or cording??), don't know but is that green stuff rubbery? Maybe a button foot, zipper foot.

MagicPaddler
07-25-2014, 06:22
VictoraGuy
My first attempt was to set the hook at needle at needle bottom. I could see it was not picking up the thread. I retimed more closely following the gmcttr referenced information. The dog timing has the material moving just after the needle comes out of the material. I think if it were set so the material stops moving just before the needle enters the material it would work better.
Good suggestions thanks

Spaceman
07-25-2014, 10:47
Don't know, narrow rolled hem, don't know (maybe free motion?? or cording??), don't know but is that green stuff rubbery? Maybe a button foot, zipper foot.

The green stuff is a hard plastic with a very fine texture on the bottom. There is a small notch in the center of the plastic.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6843_zps39b0d79a.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6843_zps39b0d79a.jpg.html)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6844_zps39ac0ada.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6844_zps39ac0ada.jpg.html)

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 12:06
I'm still learning about my new-to-me machine.
That looks like a nice 'Singer clone' machine - I wouldn't worry about the specific 'Brand name' printed on it.

The presser foot in the machine is a straight-stitch foot, as you correctly stated. The leftmost foot in your picture of the feet looks to be a spare straight-stitch foot.

For me, the foot that is 'missing' is the straight/zig-zag foot that I keep in my machine most of the time.90092
I like to be able to use the ZZ without changing the presser foot - forgetting will result in a broken needle, and I don't wear safety glasses to sew! (Actually the broken needle tip is usually left hanging on the thread - don't ask how I know...)

The only other foot I'd use from that collection is the adjustable zipper foot (right-end of the row).

It looks like your machine should take standard low-shank (you can measure to see if it's lo- or hi-shank) presser feet; there are many available on eBay. For standard feet I've found the cheap ones work OK. Sometimes the roller and 'Teflon' feet can be handy if you are sewing anything 'sticky'. You can also get adapters which allow you to use snap-on feet.
eBay is also a good spot for cheap bobbins and bobbin boxes.

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 12:11
The green stuff is a hard plastic with a very fine texture on the bottom. There is a small notch in the center of the plastic.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/spacemanlee--/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6844_zps39ac0ada.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/spacemanlee--/media/Hammock%20Stuff/IMG_6844_zps39ac0ada.jpg.html)

I agree with momtaxi; I think it's a foot for sewing on buttons. The foot holds the button in place and the zig-zag stitches the button through the holes. AFAIK, you need to drop the feed-dogs or cover them with a plate ('embroidery mode') to use a button foot. I've never used one, though, so I don't know.

I do know that for pant buttons, hand-stitching (with the matchstick/toothpick between the fabric and button) with good buttonhole twist thread does a better job than machine stitching. :) My pants seem to shrink more these days...:)

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 12:26
The dog timing has the material moving just after the needle comes out of the material. I think if it were set so the material stops moving just before the needle enters the material it would work better.

Your two statements aren't necessarily contradictory - the feed dogs should be below the plate ('out of action') while the needle is in the material.
From one of several 'service manuals' I have here in the computer:

If the feed mechanism is properly timed, the feed dog should be
on its downstroke and level with the throat plate when the point of the needle
reaches the material.

BTW (off-topic) be sure to never run the machine with the presser foot 'down' so it can touch the feed dogs (without fabric) or you will take the 'points' off the dogs and mess up the feeding.
For working on the timing (without sewing), I remove the presser foot anyway...

SCWalker
07-25-2014, 13:16
I couldn't help myself....:laugh:

Yesterday's local find: Elna Supermatic Type 722010 . Knee control.
$50 with case and a pretty full set of accessories, including the #03 cam which is required for zig-zag.
And, no flat spot on the driver wheel, so only a dusting and oiling was required to get it performing well.
90056

If that machine is open underneath,it would be excellent for hemming bags,shirts,sleeves,pants legs,and tight areas where the material needs to travel around the machine.

T_Bone
07-25-2014, 13:29
I have a White D'lite I bought for my wife years ago so we could make a huge quilt for her parents for Christmas. It was an adventure to say the least and she hasn't really used it since.
I believe it is a run of the mill sewing machine. I'm no sewing machine expert. In fact I know little to nothing about it.
If anyone does I'd love to hear it.

T

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 13:50
If that machine is open underneath,it would be excellent for hemming bags,shirts,sleeves,pants legs,and tight areas where the material needs to travel around the machine.

The Elna Supermatic was one of the 'early' free arm home/domestic sewing machines that appeared in Canada/US after WWII - some historian can correct this- and I think that was the reason for its instant popularity with folks who could afford one.
Industrial free arm machines were common even in the 1930s (and earlier?) I think.

Not a lot of gear sewing needs a free-arm, but it's handy for stuff sacs if you turn the drawstring tube (or add it on) after the side seam is closed. If your pants drag in the mud, it's easier to shorten them as well...:)

T_Bone
07-25-2014, 13:51
....And here she is!

90098
I have a White D'lite I bought for my wife years ago so we could make a huge quilt for her parents for Christmas. It was an adventure to say the least and she hasn't really used it since.
I believe it is a run of the mill sewing machine. I'm no sewing machine expert. In fact I know little to nothing about it.
If anyone does I'd love to hear it.

T

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 13:53
I have a White D'lite .......
If anyone does I'd love to hear it.
T
Show us a picture :)
Anything in particular that you want to know?
Got a DIY project in mind?

T_Bone
07-25-2014, 14:01
I'm considering a hammock. What type I'm not sure as of yet. Any ideas what limitations I might find with this machine when it comes to nylon straps and/or any types of common materials in the DIY Hammocking world?

T

T_Bone
07-25-2014, 14:03
After some quick research via Google, I found it was made by Singer and is noted for being a very functional machine that lasts a long time under heavy use. So I'm thinking it might serve me well.

VictoriaGuy
07-25-2014, 15:27
After some quick research via Google, I found it was made by Singer and is noted for being a very functional machine that lasts a long time under heavy use. So I'm thinking it might serve me well.

Well, the only way to find out is to do some sewing with it - I'd start with some 'practice cloth' (old bedsheets or even paper towels) to see how it does.
I don't think it will be happy punching through anything like webbing though grosgrain shouldn't be a problem.
One problem with the 'mini' style machines is that there isn't a lot of space to the right of the needle, so you need to plan your projects so you are not feeding anything bulky through there....perhaps that was the excitement with the quilt project?

If you are at all interested in 'machinery', keep a lookout for an older metal machine (like a 50s or 60s portable) that's going cheap (under $25?) locally. They don't slide around on the table and have enough power to deal with heavier stuff, and probably stitch faster as well. You can always take a machine out of a table and use it as a portable if you don't have space.

NailedDown
07-26-2014, 02:28
After some quick research via Google, I found it was made by Singer and is noted for being a very functional machine that lasts a long time under heavy use. So I'm thinking it might serve me well.

I'm quite sure that the person who wrote "heavy use" was meaning "using it a lot" and not "punching through many layers of heavy materials". Those are 2 completely different things.

Mine is a school model Singer bought new 12 or so years ago. It is very robust for a table top machine and I have no doubt that I could pound through several layers of webbing. I like my machine and have no intention of using it for purposes it was not designed for. Punching through several layers of ripstop and a layer of grosgrain is nothing, add a couple layers of webbing to that and an industrial machine is really what should be used. Obviously the vast majority of us will not be running out and purchasing an industrial machine, so a $20 sacrificial older machine of decent quality is the way to go. Look for an older Singer or Janome as they tend to be better quality than most. Then again, if you don't care about punishing your machine, hammer away!

momtaxi
07-26-2014, 11:29
I used to buy parts from an 'old singer guy' who had a shop locally. He said that many years ago when he was first married he sold singers. He said that he had a thick leather belt (when leather belts were solid leather and not some crap from china) and part of his sales pitch was to sew through the belt. He said after a while he needed a new belt but the machines managed just fine!

NailedDown
07-26-2014, 12:19
I used to buy parts from an 'old singer guy' who had a shop locally. He said that many years ago when he was first married he sold singers. He said that he had a thick leather belt (when leather belts were solid leather and not some crap from china) and part of his sales pitch was to sew through the belt. He said after a while he needed a new belt but the machines managed just fine!

I learned to sew sitting on my mothers lap (she is a trained seamstress). Her old table top Singer was from roughly +/-1970 and it was a very tough machine. I can remember punching through 6 layers of heavy denim making a Halloween costume.

VictoriaGuy
07-26-2014, 13:29
...... part of his sales pitch was to sew through the belt.

Another sales stunt (that I'd heard about, but never actually seen) was to stitch through a (carefully selected low-quality?) wooden ruler or yardstick.
It was a favorite to demo the 'new' electronic motor controls which could deliver full power at slower speeds.
That one hasn't died yet :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcLI1QP2030

With the right ruler and enough nerve, most machines can do the same, I think....

TZBrown
07-28-2014, 08:57
The other day when Opie was shopping for a new machine VictoriaGuy found a Necchi near Detroit.
When Opie did not bite on it, I sent the guy a message and since I was in the area Saturday stopped by for a look

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14766015542_8dd2f41d68_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ouPFYS). (https://flic.kr/p/ouPFYS)

It had a lot of accessories, even the original tension disc cleaning cord, needle threader, 15 different feet, 40 bobbins, 50+ needles, buttonhole attachment, and the complete disc set for the wonder wheel
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5592/14579695719_6f4f6b702c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/odmKA8). (https://flic.kr/p/odmKA8)

Everything needs a cleaning and the table could use a refinish and the rubber parts need replacing, but for $50.00 I'm happy :D
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/14763981414_9a6dd7006b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ouDgiG). (https://flic.kr/p/ouDgiG)

The original sales receipt was in the drawer dated July 27th 1955 $440.00

He even threw in a box of knitting tools and crochet stuff
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3908/14579635430_e02c5d8435_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/odmrEE). (https://flic.kr/p/odmrEE)

gmcttr
07-28-2014, 09:14
Heck of a deal. Looks like you got your money's worth in scissors alone.

I was wondering if you got the wires for the wonder wheel and I see you did. They are usually the first thing lost.:thumbup:

VictoriaGuy
07-28-2014, 11:29
Great deal!
And the machine has gone to a 'good home' as well.
:thumbup:
$440 was serious money in 1955. I guess that explains why those machines don't turn up every day.

I had the same thought as gmcttr about the scissors (and tweezers)..:)

gmcttr
07-28-2014, 12:04
...He even threw in a box of knitting tools and crochet stuff....

You can try to start a fad of knitted/crocheted summer quilts:laugh: but I won't be one to follow.

squidbilly
07-28-2014, 12:28
You can try to start a fad of knitted/crocheted summer quilts:laugh: but I won't be one to follow.

Me either... chop those needles into toggles!

Mouseskowitz
07-28-2014, 16:13
TZBrown, that's such a good deal it's bordering on theft :scared: You hit the jackpot there!

Edit: I would also try some Howard Restore A Finish on the cabinet before doing anything more drastic.

TZBrown
07-28-2014, 17:01
Heck of a deal. Looks like you got your money's worth in scissors alone.

I was wondering if you got the wires for the wonder wheel and I see you did. They are usually the first thing lost.:thumbup:

When I opened the drawer and saw all of the stuff I figured the same


Great deal!
And the machine has gone to a 'good home' as well.
:thumbup:
$440 was serious money in 1955. I guess that explains why those machines don't turn up every day.

I had the same thought as gmcttr about the scissors (and tweezers)..:)

That for sure was big money in those days


You can try to start a fad of knitted/crocheted summer quilts:laugh: but I won't be one to follow.

There are a bunch of needles used for making socks also I think


Me either... chop those needles into toggles!

Some may turn up at the group hangs as raffle prizes :lol:


TZBrown, that's such a good deal it's bordering on theft :scared: You hit the jackpot there!

Edit: I would also try some Howard Restore A Finish on the cabinet before doing anything more drastic.

Jackpot for sure, now I need to sell at least 2 from the stock downstairs as this one will fill all of the needs I am sure.
I was thinking of Howard for a start

Also in the cabinet were a bunch of attachments and tools for a serger, as well as a foot control, probably for the serger as well

He also has a Singer Red Eye treadle, in pretty good shape but would like $100 for that, decals are very good

Mouseskowitz
07-28-2014, 17:16
He also has a Singer Red Eye treadle, in pretty good shape but would like $100 for that, decals are very good

Buy for the cabinet condition not the machine condition. A good treadle cabinet is harder to come by than a good head to go in it. The sad thing is that people can get more for the old treadles if they chop them up into tables than if they sell them as sewing machines.

I don't think I've posted a picture of my treadle in the cabinet yet. So, here it is.

MDSH
07-28-2014, 17:17
Very nice, TZ!

Big Sweets
07-29-2014, 21:54
Just picked this up from Goodwill today for $19.99. All it needs is a good cleaning, rewiring and oiling. Came with all paperwork, accessories and even a spare bulb.

90595905969059790598906019060290603

Mouseskowitz
07-29-2014, 22:08
Just picked this up from Goodwill today for $19.99. All it needs is a good cleaning, rewiring and oiling. Came with all paperwork, accessories and even a spare bulb.

Very nice find! :boggle:

squidbilly
07-29-2014, 22:12
Just picked this up from Goodwill today for $19.99. All it needs is a good cleaning, rewiring and oiling. Came with all paperwork, accessories and even a spare bulb.


Very nice find for $ 20.00. One of the first BU Novas (VN on the bed) And the paint is good too: so many of those had problems with the paint drying out and cracking.

VictoriaGuy
07-29-2014, 22:12
Just picked this up from Goodwill today for $19.99. All it needs is a good cleaning, rewiring and oiling. Came with all paperwork, accessories and even a spare bulb.

:thumbup::thumbup:

Great find!

Big Sweets
07-29-2014, 22:32
I was at the store this afternoon and another shopper was full on checking out another more modern machine and I asked him if he found anything good. He responded "its made in Taiwan" as he thoroughly inspected everything about it. I was not surprised when he walked away with it. I was feeling slightly dejected as I felt I had just missed out by 1 or 2 minutes, we all know that feeling. I then started looking around the furniture section a little better and came across this Necchi untouched, with all of the drawers full of vintage goodness. I asked the nearest associate about pricing as there was no tag on it. They produced a new tag, I paid immediately and had it loaded in my truck within minutes. I didnt even try it out in store, I wanted to get it out of there asap. I plugged it in at home and the knee switch doesnt seem to work, its always on when plugged in. Satisfied with what I got I put it in the garage for now.

Mouseskowitz
07-30-2014, 00:19
I was at the store this afternoon and another shopper was full on checking out another more modern machine and I asked him if he found anything good. He responded "its made in Taiwan" as he thoroughly inspected everything about it. I was not surprised when he walked away with it. I was feeling slightly dejected as I felt I had just missed out by 1 or 2 minutes, we all know that feeling. I then started looking around the furniture section a little better and came across this Necchi untouched, with all of the drawers full of vintage goodness. I asked the nearest associate about pricing as there was no tag on it. They produced a new tag, I paid immediately and had it loaded in my truck within minutes. I didnt even try it out in store, I wanted to get it out of there asap. I plugged it in at home and the knee switch doesnt seem to work, its always on when plugged in. Satisfied with what I got I put it in the garage for now.

Sounds like someone went in and played with the wiring. I looked around for the service manual online but the one I found (http://freenecchisewingmachinefiles.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/7/3/18731174/necchi_service_manual_bu-bf_nova-mira.pdf)didn't have wiring in it. Maybe one of the Necchi guys around here can point you in the right direction.

Big Sweets
07-30-2014, 00:30
Sounds like someone went in and played with the wiring. I looked around for the service manual online but the one I found (http://freenecchisewingmachinefiles.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/7/3/18731174/necchi_service_manual_bu-bf_nova-mira.pdf)didn't have wiring in it. Maybe one of the Necchi guys around here can point you in the right direction.

I dont think so actually. The guy inspecting the other machine obviously overlooked this one, he thought he was slick but wasnt really that slick at all.

Theres a double non-polarized outlet on the inside of the cabinet that's clearly labeled machine and light respectively. As seen in the lower right here, 90617

The wiring is the same as an old lamp thats brittle and cracked in places. I plan on rewiring it like I would any antique lamp. As for the knee lever I'll disassemble it and spray any contacts with Deoxit.

I have this instruction and maintenance guide i'll review tomorrow.
90616

And thank you everyone. This is a new aquisition that hopefully will become my main thread injector. In the mean time I still have my Singer I picked up off CL earlier this year.

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=81759&d=1395026740

gmcttr
07-30-2014, 00:58
Very nice find for $ 20.00. One of the first BU Novas (VN on the bed) And the paint is good too: so many of those had problems with the paint drying out and cracking.

I believe I've seen those in the know state that the earlier BUs with the VN decal are a first choice for them.

Big Sweets
07-30-2014, 01:10
I believe I've seen those in the know state that the earlier BUs with the VN decal are a first choice for them.

I'm very excited about this aquisition. I believe I've hit upon a holy grail of sorts and when I get it all cleaned/oiled up it will be everything I hope it to be.

TZBrown
07-30-2014, 08:37
Another beautiful find

opie
07-30-2014, 11:19
TZ, that was a sweet find. I should have jumped on it but I never get excited about ads with few pictures. So I left it alone. I did win this.....

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/s6IAAOSw4bVTnbIQ/$_3.JPG

VictoriaGuy
07-30-2014, 11:49
I did win this.....


So you have the White, Necchi, and this Singer as well?

That's a 'good start' ..... :)

"Problem? I don't have a problem...just backup machines!!":lol:

I'm trying to resist this one locally - a nice little Singer 185
90656

opie
07-30-2014, 17:49
Yeah. Ill probably whittle it down to one once I figure which one works the best with what I want to use it for. Right now the White is edging out the Necchi in regards to handling what I am asking of it.

squidbilly
07-30-2014, 23:56
I'm very excited about this aquisition. I believe I've hit upon a holy grail of sorts and when I get it all cleaned/oiled up it will be everything I hope it to be.

Yes, you have. From what I've read, these were the first of the BU Novas, which were the first domestic zig-zag machine available here. 1948-1953. You know Singer had to just love that!:eek: These are characterized by the VN logo on the bed, and a chrome plated upper tension knob. Later models had the boxed N logo and a larger tension knob, usually with a black center.

TZBrown
07-31-2014, 09:09
TZ, that was a sweet find. I should have jumped on it but I never get excited about ads with few pictures. So I left it alone. I did win this.....

Nice one, another obsession has started I see :lol:

Sometimes the CL adds that don't put a lot of info can be gold mines due to the seller not knowing what they have.

I finished the clean up and lube on the BU, it sews great, smooth and quiet, but has no low speed. The transformer under the motor gets hot, and buzzes.
I clipped the wires to prevent a fire. Sews fine on HI, so if I can't find a transformer I am still OK

VictoriaGuy
07-31-2014, 13:50
Sounds like someone went in and played with the wiring. I looked around for the service manual online but the one I found (http://freenecchisewingmachinefiles.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/7/3/18731174/necchi_service_manual_bu-bf_nova-mira.pdf)didn't have wiring in it. Maybe one of the Necchi guys around here can point you in the right direction.

Thanks for that link, Mouse...
That's a good source for free user manuals for early Necchis as well...
http://freenecchisewingmachinefiles.weebly.com/

I'm all set with the paperwork..just have to find one of those cheap Necchis around here....:)

TZBrown
08-01-2014, 07:47
Thanks for that link, Mouse...
That's a good source for free user manuals for early Necchis as well...
http://freenecchisewingmachinefiles.weebly.com/

I'm all set with the paperwork..just have to find one of those cheap Necchis around here....:)

2 great sources of Necchi Info there, Thanks for posting those

rthensley
08-01-2014, 08:58
Any thoughts on these?

For sell for $25. Ad says the light went out and it stopped working 30 years ago. Looks pretty cool.

90779

For sell for $15.

90780


I guess if I buy an "injector", I would get a Brother LS2125i. It is essentially brand new for $25. Any thoughts on it?

gmcttr
08-01-2014, 09:30
The Remington is a "class 15 clone". These are generally good straight stitch machines. The National is an unknown to me.

Bubba
08-01-2014, 10:33
Any thoughts on these?

For sell for $25. Ad says the light went out and it stopped working 30 years ago. Looks pretty cool.

90779

For sell for $15.

90780


I guess if I buy an "injector", I would get a Brother LS2125i. It is essentially brand new for $25. Any thoughts on it?


Based on the looks of the wheel and the location of the bobbin, the National looks similar to the White Family Rotary machines. I have a White FR and it's a pretty good machine but there are issues. First, spare parts are harder to come by. It has an older style shank that makes even finding a regular preser foot hard to find. The hand wheel is turned by the motor via a small rubber wheel pressed up against the hand wheel instead of a belt which is only an issue with getting it going on thicker material. You need to manually drive the needle into the thicker material first and once its gets going it goes through the fabric fine. The wheel also turns in the opposite direction which is not a big deal but you need to be aware of it if you are switching between multiple machines. I'd pass on the National if in fact it is a clone of the White machines.

VictoriaGuy
08-01-2014, 11:24
I guess if I buy an "injector", I would get a Brother LS2125i. It is essentially brand new for $25. Any thoughts on it?

The Brother LS2125i is one of the 'mini' big-box store (Walmart-type) machines that are common these days. 'Lightweight' says it all - it's mostly plastic and will probably tend to slide around on the work table a bit. The throat is small, so if you are working on the middle of a tarp it may be tricky to get the material passed to the right of the needle.

However, a number of folks here at HF have used similar machines to build DIY gear with success.

I don't like throwaway tools. If I had <$25 to spend, I'd look for an older Singer, Singer clone or Kenmore. In my area, there's a Kenmore 158.16012 listed for $20...all metal construction....the kind of machine I'd get if I didn't have a solid machine already.

rthensley
08-01-2014, 11:42
Thanks for the input.

I am in no hurry to buy anything. Might not buy anything at all.

I'll prob keep my eyes open for an older machine...that can be serviced.

Bubba
08-01-2014, 14:13
Thanks for the input.

I am in no hurry to buy anything. Might not buy anything at all.

I'll prob keep my eyes open for an older machine...that can be serviced.

The Remington should be serviceable. If it's like my class 15 clone, the light is on a separate plug and the machine will work without the light. You might be able to get it for less since the light does not work. $15.00 or $20.00 is not a bad price if it's in good condition and if it stiches well. You could always use a desk lamp or something. Just a thought.

opie
08-02-2014, 18:13
Need some help IDing this bad boy... I know its a Kenmore....

90890

EDIT: Found it. Its a 117.740.

squidbilly
08-03-2014, 09:47
Need some help IDing this bad boy... I know its a Kenmore....


Here ya go...http://www.searsarchives.com/history/files/sewing_id.pdf

Big Sweets
08-03-2014, 21:26
That is a really nice Kenmore Opie and i'm also glad you got that instead of the new Singer.

Markatrog
08-04-2014, 20:17
Scored both of these to day, waho! No man for the old one, help if you can with the attachments and manuals :)http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/05/aqa7ymeh.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/05/yqanybyr.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/05/unypyry4.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/05/a5u5udu7.jpg

I'm hooked on injecting :)))))

gmcttr
08-04-2014, 20:27
The first one is a 15-91.

Service manual... http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf

User's manual... http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/manuals/15-91.pdf ...the feet and how to use them are toward the end of the manual.

I'm not sure which model the Touch and Sew is. They do a good job up until one of the plastic gears break...typically the upper vertical shaft gear. They can still be bought and replaced.

VictoriaGuy
08-04-2014, 21:02
I think that's a Singer 626 ?

User manual is at http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/1304_626.pdf

Markatrog
08-04-2014, 21:53
Cool thanks guys!

gmcttr
08-05-2014, 06:28
The first one is a 15-91...

Duh...actually it's a Singer 15-90. You can still use the same manuals, just skip the potted motor/housing info in the 15-91 manuals.

VictoriaGuy
08-05-2014, 11:27
The first one is a 15-91.



.actually it's a Singer 15-90.

For Singer fans, this ID 'binary tree' might be helpful, though some of the features probably need the machine 'in hand' - i.e. hard to see in a pic.

http://www.sandman-collectibles.com/id-singer-machines.htm

gmcttr
08-05-2014, 11:56
And another ID guide for those crappy CL photos :laugh: ...http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/07/visual-guide-to-identifying-singers.html

poca
08-09-2014, 22:07
Perhaps this thread is done now, but I'm super excited to finally have my own thread injector so I'm going to share anyway!

I picked up this little gem from a lovely little Dutch woman through Kijiji last week. Paid $50 and it's in great condition. She took really good care of it and it has all the original feet and guide attachments. It sews better than any machine I have used and was able to handle 4 layers of denim with no trouble. I haven't tested it yet but I'm hoping it can sew webbing as well.

The case it was in had seen better days so I made this one myself out of some extra oak from a reno my parents did a while back. I think it turned out quite nicely!

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gmcttr
08-09-2014, 23:45
Nice 99K made in 1958 (if I got the serial number correctly). :thumbup1:

It should sew 1500 lb webbing without a problem.

squidbilly
08-10-2014, 09:12
She's beautiful...and I think your case turned out nicely too. A vintage machine in that condition with original attachments is a great find.

I think I'm seeing the same SN as gmcttr: http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-en-series-serial-numbers.html but you can check here.

....and this thread is never done;)

poca
08-10-2014, 13:47
Yep that's right. Its a 99K-31 from 1958. Still has the original manual too which was how I knew at first.

GT
08-10-2014, 19:04
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jimnlacy
08-11-2014, 00:30
That is a great video showing how industrial machines operate. Thanks very informative and interesting.

Big Sweets
08-11-2014, 01:25
Poca, absolutely a great score. Getting such a rock solid machine, from the original owner, with all of the attachments included is a once in a lifetime achievement.

4estTrekker
08-11-2014, 12:41
I was perusing the stores last week looking for a sewing table I could modify for my machine...found a table with a solid functioning 1962 Singer 328K inside...paid $14.98 for the whole shoot in' match. Sews like a champ!

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Misc/62602823808acad00c32e4f2ca8d268b_zps0a1ce0af.jpg

VinceInVA
08-11-2014, 15:01
Local owner/repairman from Bonnie's Sew & Fabric in Alexandria, VA put this one together for me after talking to him about what I wanted it for.
Husqvarna Viking 6020 complete.
Love the 1/5 reduction gear for webbing.

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squidbilly
08-11-2014, 17:07
Local owner/repairman from Bonnie's Sew & Fabric in Alexandria, VA put this one together for me after talking to him about what I wanted it for.
Husqvarna Viking 6020 complete.
Love the 1/5 reduction gear for webbing.

91366

Very nice: one machine that should do everything you need. The freearm will come in handy sewing drawcord channels too.

VictoriaGuy
08-12-2014, 00:43
Local owner/repairman from Bonnie's Sew & Fabric in Alexandria, VA put this one together for me after talking to him about what I wanted it for.
Husqvarna Viking 6020 complete.
Love the 1/5 reduction gear for webbing.


Nice!
I'm a Husqvarna fan - some solid thinking happened when they were designed.
I sold an Optima610 a couple of weeks ago (shelf was getting full here!:lol:) but I still have a nice solid little 5610 'Vanessa' waiting for the right home.

VictoriaGuy
08-12-2014, 12:32
I couldn't resist this one...White 628, vertical oscillating hook, zig-zag.
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The machine was probably made in Japan, though the (1 amp) motor says 'Made in Canada' - I saw in online pictures a couple of White 628s sold in the US that had the Japan origin on the bronze-color badge.

I think the designer had been looking at Necchi machines for ideas about the controls and paint job....
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One unusual feature of this zig-zag White (and perhaps others?) is that the needle is not centered for straight stitching, but in the 'left hand side' position. It means that sewing a narrow hem, the fabric is only fed by one of the feed dogs. Zig-zag, but no needle position control, needless to say. The handwheel does rotate in the standard direction (CCW).
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The stitch length control is a nice 'click-stop' dial that works.
Definitely not a machine that will bounce around on your work table - 41.5 lbs in the case.....you won't see these being carried into the local quilting club meeting!

I had to replace the lamp cord, which involved cutting open the glued-together bakelite case (razor saw and Dremel diamond wheel..). New belt and bobbin tire ($6 for both from local shop) completed the job.

PS: Never mind the junk thread on the spool - I don't waste the Gutermanns sewing test stitching- IMO it's a good way to get rid of that old thread in the collection.

VictoriaGuy
08-13-2014, 20:59
I have a couple of Elna machines, and I've been curious about the Elna 1 - nicknamed 'Grasshopper'.
I haven't actually seen one, but when this turned up locally ($10 and a 20 minute drive) my curiosity overcame my good sense. :laugh:

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According to the info I found online, these were made after WWII by the Portman Sewing Machine Co., of New Rochelle, NY and marketed under various names and schemes. My machine has a 'National Sewing Machine Co., Belvidere, IL' nameplate near the motor, and the 'Viking' faceplate identifies it as a machine sold by the Eatons Co (Sears competitor, now gone) in Canada. (That's why you never see a Husqvarna machine with the Viking name in Canada, BTW - trademark infringement still lives!)

It's a straight-stitch, horizontal rotary hook free-arm machine, with -like the Elna it copied- some interesting features.
The presser foot tension is regulated by a 'push-down' mechanism which has a click-release.

The lamp is inside the upper arm, behind a hinged cast metal door.

The 'door' at the top right gives access to some of the oiling points and apparently was a temptation for kids, as I found: two marbles, 3 Lego pieces, and two 1959 dimes (now worth $1.20 for the silver value, apparently) inside the machine!
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The take-up arm swings in an arc, and you don't want to try adjusting the tension 'on the fly'...
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The Elna had a metal case which doubled as a flat work table, the particle board case for this 'viking' has a similar table tucked inside.
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Bobbin winder - another nifty design which disengages the drive to the flywheel when a bobbin is inserted into the 'clamp'. Another oiling port with hinged door.
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BTW, the machine seems tiny - just 12" wide and 11" high, but it has a full-size 7" throat.
Oh, once I got it oiled up (you need to unscrew the plate to the right of the needle to get at the lower oil points, and I removed the end plate to check out the mechanism there, though there are holes for and oil ports which make this unnecessary) and played with the tension a bit, it's a fine little stitcher.:)
Another machine for 'ye olde curiosity shelf'. :lol:

BTW, looking at the machining and finish details inside, I don't think you'd mistake this for an Elna.

Mouseskowitz
08-13-2014, 21:42
That's a neat little machine. Looks like it'd be really nice for stuff sacks.

VictoriaGuy
08-14-2014, 00:24
That's a neat little machine. Looks like it'd be really nice for stuff sacks.
I'm pretty much 'hooked' on free-arm machines. Good for stuff sacks and hemming those too-long pants I always seem to find on 'Clearance'. :)

jeffrey2132
08-17-2014, 20:21
I bought last month a sewing machine off Craigslist. $40. The kicker, it wasn't running when I got it. She let me take it without paying to see how much it would be to repair. The guy got all the gunk off and re-oiled the machine - $90. Maybe a little pricey but the guy said it would run beautifully forever. He said it's a late 60s early 70s Signature machine. The cool part to me is that the cabinet is from a company in Arkansas (where I live) that is no longer in business. I think that is so cool! Anyway, made a topquilt with it and some stuff sacks.

Debi Jaytee
08-17-2014, 21:58
I was perusing the stores last week looking for a sewing table I could modify for my machine...found a table with a solid functioning 1962 Singer 328K inside...paid $14.98 for the whole shoot in' match. Sews like a champ!

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Misc/62602823808acad00c32e4f2ca8d268b_zps0a1ce0af.jpg
I have this exact machine, it was my mum's, she gave it to me for Christmas. For 14.98, you stole it!

miyanc
08-17-2014, 22:52
I just got a kenmore 15814100 while searching for a new cabinet for my singer. I got the machine and cabient for 10. The machine runs pretty good. Going to give it a clean and oil before running fabric thru it. Cabinet is a simple one. Looks like an end table, but its not falling apart like the one I use now. I would really like one of the more modern tables. The kind you see in industrial settings. Rounded edges, ruler built in, sneaky draws and notches for the essentials and space for other stuff underneath.

jar944
08-21-2014, 08:00
Just joined today and figured this was a good place to show off what Ive been buying over the last month. Whats funny is I was looking for a walking foot machine about 2 years ago, and couldn't find any locally under about $700. Then this year since early July I found and bought 3 walking foot machines with the most expensive being $145 (I have a really hard time passing up a good deal.)


The first machine I bought: Juki 563-3. I paid more that I should have ($145) as it had some issues but as i had never seen a industrial machine in person before I bought it anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140709_230340_918_zpsowomwb9i.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140709_230340_918_zpsowomwb9i.jpg.html)

once I got it home I realized it had a bent upper feed rod and upper feed drive rod, and I happened to break the take up lever drive pin. Fortunately I like to fix things and have the tools to do so. I machined a new drive pin, pressed the drive rod straight, and finally pressed and faced the upper feed drive rod flat on my lathe.

Broken Drive pin and new replacement

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140709_230238_zpscudednoh.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140709_230238_zpscudednoh.jpg.html)

New pin in place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140709_230158_zpsdbsu6dv1.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140709_230158_zpsdbsu6dv1.jpg.html)

This should have been flat

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140706_123131_zpsnykq57bc.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140706_123131_zpsnykq57bc.jpg.html)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073910_438_zps7vbljl1o.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140821_073910_438_zps7vbljl1o.jpg.html)


About a week after i got the Juki I bought (impulse eBay BIN @ $50) a Singer 111g156 head. It was listed as listed as locked up, but all it really needed was a good cleaning

what I bought
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/10_zpszpdctzmc.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/10_zpszpdctzmc.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/5_zpsyw3xafvb.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/5_zpsyw3xafvb.jpg.html)

After spending some time cleaning it (and some rust removal)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140721_075757_251_zps7vzrdozx.jpg[/URL

[URL=http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140721_080921_727_zpsgaxrqkv4.jpg.html]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140721_080921_727_zpsgaxrqkv4.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140721_075757_251_zps7vzrdozx.jpg.html)

Then for no good reason about a week after that I check Craigslist again and see s Consew 226r for $100 (with table) sure for that price I'll take it. I got to drag it out of the woman's basement myself, that was fun.. Its was actually in the best condition of all of the machines Ive bought at the time of purchase
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073609_816_zpsqnsl5qcf.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140821_073609_816_zpsqnsl5qcf.jpg.html)

About 2 weeks later a deal I had been working on since I bought the Juki comes through and I get the Zig Zag and double needle machines I was missing.

Pfaff 138 (came with the original Pfaff table)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073541_301_zpsp5jywdqe.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140821_073541_301_zpsp5jywdqe.jpg.html)

Singer 212w140
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073641_856_zpswmabwq7j.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140821_073641_856_zpswmabwq7j.jpg.html)


So in a month of looking I got 5 machines, 3 tables and spent $695. Obviously it was cost effective since I've made a stuff sack and tree straps so far. :laugh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140816_172949_672_zpsjc9t0rzy.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/jar944/media/rps20140816_172949_672_zpsjc9t0rzy.jpg.html)

TZBrown
08-21-2014, 08:32
Another obsession ran amok :scared: :lol:

Some nice machines there though

gr8brew
08-21-2014, 09:02
I have two 1.5" steel square tubes attached to the underside of my workbench with two short pieces of unastrut. I use them to hold a bow press as well as a couple of other tools. When I am done I can flip them inwards and they are out of the way.

My work shop area is crazy small and I wanted my machine flush with my work surface but don't have room to have a table taking up floor space so naturally I wanted to use this setup.

Found a 15.00 table on craigslist and took the top off and my father in law made some nice oak mounts and it sits flush with my workbench.

Love the Pfaff it really is solid so far I have made a bunch of stuff sacks from the Ripstop by the Roll DIY starer kit and an 11" DL out of argon. Have some 1.6 hyper D on the way to make another and going to tackle a a tarp as well.

SCWalker
08-21-2014, 12:33
When I did auto upholstery I ran a pfaff like this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073541_301_zpsp5jywdqe.jpg


And when I owned my own auto,boat,van,and rv upholstery shop,I leased a consew almost identical to this one.I think mine may have been made in the 80's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073609_816_zpsqnsl5qcf.jpg


Both are excellent machines with the proper motor/brake set up.Both of mine had large treadle like floor pedal.Push forward with one foot to speed up and push back with the other foot to stop quick.Worked beautiful after a couple test runs to get the foot pressures right.

breadbutt
08-21-2014, 12:52
My Juki straight stitch for light weight fabrics and denim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6heK1cUMk

My Mitsubishi double needle walking foot for denim up to layers of cordura and pvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIJ-0kDa54

My Juki serger
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SCWalker
08-21-2014, 13:05
I'd never get that machine threaded right. :lol:

jar944
08-21-2014, 13:08
Another obsession ran amok :scared: :lol:


HA. Fortunately this one has been relatively cheap.



When I did auto upholstery I ran a pfaff like this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073541_301_zpsp5jywdqe.jpg


And when I owned my own auto,boat,van,and rv upholstery shop,I leased a consew almost identical to this one.I think mine may have been made in the 80's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073609_816_zpsqnsl5qcf.jpg


Both are excellent machines with the proper motor/brake set up.Both of mine had large treadle like floor pedal.Push forward with one foot to speed up and push back with the other foot to stop quick.Worked beautiful after a couple test runs to get the foot pressures right.

These are set up the same way in standard industrial tables with clutch motors. Well all but the 212, Unfortunately I didn't realize the double needle machines are a different footprint. It doesn't (currently) fit into any of my tables.

The Pfaff and singer 212 actually came out of a hot air balloon shop (http://www.apexballoons.com/tips/) I can only guess how much nylon they have sewn over the years.

breadbutt
08-21-2014, 14:28
I'd never get that machine threaded right. :lol:
the serger? yeah... it's a headache. I use two separate tweezers to do it and it's still a pain :laugh:

91962

breadbutt
08-21-2014, 14:35
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/jar944/rps20140821_073609_816_zpsqnsl5qcf.jpg
I used to work at a bag company sewing backpacks and messenger bags. my boss used a consew like that, but the reverse lever was weird, you had to lift it rather than push down. I was much happier on the jukis we had.

jar944
08-21-2014, 15:35
I used to work at a bag company sewing backpacks and messenger bags. my boss used a consew like that, but the reverse lever was weird, you had to lift it rather than push down. I was much happier on the jukis we had.

The reverse lever (effectively) just moves a link from one side of a pivot point to the other. It wold be easy to set one up backwards. I'm not sure why you would want to though.

GT
08-23-2014, 11:38
Had to redo the vid. Here's a couple of my machines.

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mcspin50
08-23-2014, 20:42
Just in case you need to name a part, here's a handy diagram...

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GT
08-23-2014, 20:58
Just in case you need to name a part, here's a handy diagram...

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Man! That is soooo funny! Dilithium Crystal. :) Cry Hole :) Arc Reactor :)

gmcttr
08-23-2014, 20:58
Just in case you need to name a part, here's a handy diagram...

:lol::lol::lol:

Bumbler
08-24-2014, 07:23
Yesterday's big score - a 1957 Singer 31-15, picked up for a whole $12. Pretty dirty/grimy outside but the inside is clean. Motor runs quiet but the old belt broke immediately (no surprise; it's dried out & badly cracked), so running the machine itself will have to wait a bit, which is fine - more time for the fresh lube to soak in.

http://i61.tinypic.com/s4cbb7.jpg

miyanc
08-24-2014, 09:45
Yesterday's big score - a 1957 Singer 31-15, picked up for a whole $12. Pretty dirty/grimy outside but the inside is clean. Motor runs quiet but the old belt broke immediately (no surprise; it's dried out & badly cracked), so running the machine itself will have to wait a bit, which is fine - more time for the fresh lube to soak in.

http://i61.tinypic.com/s4cbb7.jpg
Nice where did you find it?

Bumbler
08-24-2014, 20:12
Nice where did you find it?

My wife noticed it at an estate sale she was at. She bought it before calling me about whether or not I'd want it - for $12, can't go wrong. Even if the machine was a total basket case the table is worth more than that.

miyanc
08-24-2014, 20:29
Just in case you need to name a part, here's a handy diagram...

92040

My sewing machine is faster then this machine because it goes up 11. Right across the board they all go up to eleven. Most machines only go to 10.

GT
08-26-2014, 20:38
Yesterday's big score - a 1957 Singer 31-15, picked up for a whole $12. Pretty dirty/grimy outside but the inside is clean. Motor runs quiet but the old belt broke immediately (no surprise; it's dried out & badly cracked), so running the machine itself will have to wait a bit, which is fine - more time for the fresh lube to soak in.

http://i61.tinypic.com/s4cbb7.jpg

I have one of these as a show piece in my Tavern Room. Check the ser# on singer. Mine say's "Valuable" That is, before I striped it down and painted it. Oops! P.S. You can get a new belt on e-bay for short money.

paper
08-29-2014, 12:43
I'm kicking around buying a nice old Singer Treadle machine that needs a belt.. Any suggestions on where I'd locate a belt for such an animal??

Never mind.. 9 billion videos on the job are available on Youtube and I just had some 16 year old kid teach me how to do it in 2 minutes.. :)

I need a treadle machine like a hole in the head, but I want one anyway.. :)

jimnlacy
08-29-2014, 14:26
Go for it. I found a 15-88 for $50 that needed some tlc. It is really a trip to sew with. Got a belt, bobbin case and bobbin tire from an eBay vendor. Watched a video on how to install the belt. Of course after I installed it. Par for the course. Works great and can go real slow and easy or fairly quickly. Sews through a bunch of canvas and can handle delicates. Like silnylon. I owed a ton to everyone on HF that has posted.

paper
08-29-2014, 14:46
http://images.craigslist.org/00d0d_5g6oo8SQNVQ_600x450.jpg

That's the one I'm looking it.. Made in 1915 I find it cool to use something 100 years old..
I have an Oberndorf Swedish Mauser that was made in 1900 and I love shooting NRA High Power Matches with it.. My highest score was shot with that gun, and it was 112 years old at the time. :)

I don't need the Treadle machine, but I sure want one.. :)

Bubba
08-29-2014, 18:51
...

That's the one I'm looking it.. Made in 1915 I find it cool to use something 100 years old...

Me too. I used my 104 year old treadle to repair the bottom of my son's snow pants this past winter. Love the history of objects that work as good today as they did when they were first made.

gr8brew
08-29-2014, 21:43
Scored a pristine necchi esperia today. 30 bucks. My wife is scratching her head.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/29/5c1b96d4bbf7bf069e7cfbdabed774b5.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/29/f6dd408ee95c335d00fb7117e353644c.jpg

gmcttr
08-30-2014, 00:12
Nice buy on the Esperia.

My Esperia and a Supernova seem to be my go-to machines now...always threaded and on the work table.

gr8brew
08-30-2014, 08:11
Thanks the cord is in rough shape going to replace it before I fire it up. I'm interested in trying the funky foot peddle.

gmcttr
08-30-2014, 10:37
Thanks the cord is in rough shape going to replace it before I fire it up. I'm interested in trying the funky foot peddle.

You rest your foot on the fixed button and roll it sideways so the ball of your foot presses the control button. This way the unit supports your foot compared to the clamshell style controllers that require you to hover over them.

paper
08-30-2014, 12:39
Me too. I used my 104 year old treadle to repair the bottom of my son's snow pants this past winter. Love the history of objects that work as good today as they did when they were first made.

Now I've done it.. :scared:

I had the photo of the old Singer machine on my computer and a co-worker saw it.. He and his wife have an old Singer Treadle that needs a belt, and is mine for the price of driving to his house and helping him put it in my truck.
Well, I contacted the other place that had the 1915 model and explained about the co-worker thing.. They dropped the price to $75..

I didn't need one, and I most definitely don't need two.. And I don't need more projects that cause clutter.. :)

Bumbler
08-30-2014, 17:31
I'm also intrigued by treadles. My winter project is converting an old (electric) Singer model 66 into a treadle. I'd picked up an old treadle model 27 that was completely beat up, but the treadle base was good. So this winter I plan to make a new top for the treadle base, and drop in the model 66. The one good thing I kept from the old model 27 was the big, heavy, 6" flywheel (like the one in the upper right of this picture (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-S2Tp2GCNQfw/TisvdS5rjoI/AAAAAAAAAQg/PGSvo1e4hEQ/s1600/0spokedw02.jpg); I've heard that heavy handwheels are preferred for treadles. The 27's hub was too long to fit on the 66, so I had a friend turn it down on his lathe - fits perfectly now.

Bubba
08-30-2014, 17:49
Now I've done it...

I didn't need one, and I most definitely don't need two.. And I don't need more projects that cause clutter.. :)

Lol. I said the same thing and I ended up with two.

Short White Guy
08-31-2014, 14:44
While it's no secret that I love my thread injector, it's physical appearance is something that has been a source of concern for me. Not only is it blatantly girly-looking, but I was getting concerned that my wife was jealous of me spending too much time at night with "Anna" instead of her.
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My solution? Go onto Ebay and find a way to masculinize my sewing machine into a true thread injector. A few dollars and one shipment from China later, and I have created the ultimate in manly thread-injecting goodness:
92460

Now all that's left is to give it a proper name. I'm currently leaning towards "Threadimus Prime", but I'm open to suggestions, too.

Bubba
08-31-2014, 18:08
I suggest Stitchitron


While it's no secret that I love my thread injector, it's physical appearance is something that has been a source of concern for me. Not only is it blatantly girly-looking, but I was getting concerned that my wife was jealous of me spending too much time at night with "Anna" instead of her.
92459

My solution? Go onto Ebay and find a way to masculinize my sewing machine into a true thread injector. A few dollars and one shipment from China later, and I have created the ultimate in manly thread-injecting goodness:
92460

Now all that's left is to give it a proper name. I'm currently leaning towards "Threadimus Prime", but I'm open to suggestions, too.

gr8brew
08-31-2014, 19:16
You rest your foot on the fixed button and roll it sideways so the ball of your foot presses the control button. This way the unit supports your foot compared to the clamshell style controllers that require you to hover over them.


Thanks for the tip. Got it all wired up today. Really liking the machine allot the foot control is easy to manipulate. I love the low speed setting also. I have to dial in the tension the under side of the seams is a bit wonkie, been adjusting bobbin tension almost have it dialed in. The only part I need to replace is the bobbin tire.

Crazed Celt
08-31-2014, 20:44
I have been considering making some gear for camping since I left the ground and took to the trees, rehabbing ground use items for a more lofty purpose and such. Following all the DIY threads and this one in particular led me to look into thread injectors. I stumbled onto this Viking 6430 at a flea market and after some haggling over price I decided to jump in with both feet. After we agreed on the machine they told me about the carrying case, manuals and all the extras that went with it. I think it was $100 well spent. So far I have learned how to thread a bobbin and the machine and have run several rows of straight stitches, well somewhat straight, and the machine purrs like a kitten.
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Rat
08-31-2014, 21:20
Nice, those Vikings are built like tanks. Good deal to boot.

VictoriaGuy
08-31-2014, 23:23
Nice, those Vikings are built like tanks. Good deal to boot.
+1
Viking/Husqvarna of that era are favorites of mine. Really well thought out machines without a lot of gimmicks, generally, in the couple I've owned/own.
Good find!

FLRider
09-01-2014, 16:26
Nice, those Vikings are built like tanks. Good deal to boot.

I've certainly gotten my money's worth out of mine. It hasn't needed maintenance (other than dust it off now and again) at all since I bought it four years ago. Wonderful machine that handles anything I can fit under the presser foot.

KingsFord
09-01-2014, 18:33
pick this one up today.. 1954 model 15-91
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gmcttr
09-01-2014, 18:50
pick this one up today.. 1954 model 15-91...

Just in case you want to go through the motor housing and clean out the hardened grease....http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2012/01/complete-how-to-re-wire-potted-motor.html

FJRpilot
09-01-2014, 20:08
pick this one up today.. 1954 model 15-91
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Nice, I'm still hunting one... My 15-90 is what I use for 90% of my projects. I have a Supernova as well, love it too, but the 15-90 is just perfect for ability level. I want a 15-91, the are real work horses... Congratulations!

Mouseskowitz
09-03-2014, 23:48
Now I've done it.. :scared:

I had the photo of the old Singer machine on my computer and a co-worker saw it.. He and his wife have an old Singer Treadle that needs a belt, and is mine for the price of driving to his house and helping him put it in my truck.
Well, I contacted the other place that had the 1915 model and explained about the co-worker thing.. They dropped the price to $75..

I didn't need one, and I most definitely don't need two.. And I don't need more projects that cause clutter.. :)

Treadles are interesting creatures. I have a 15-88 and now want to find a Davis Vertical Feed. That seems like that ultimate DIY treadle. I visited a guy this summer who does treadle quilting and got quite the education as we looked at almost all of his 80+ machines. One of these days I might have to find a TOGA (Treadle On Gathering) event and go to it.

paper
09-04-2014, 03:34
Well, both of these are within 2 hours of you. I can set you up? :)

miyanc
09-04-2014, 08:02
pick this one up today.. 1954 model 15-91
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nice, I have one and its sews like a champ. Nice cabinet too. I just got a kenmore in a nicer cabinet then what I had but as someone mentioned the cabinet is squared and the machine is rounded. No big deal... except my ocd about it. I have a singer in a kenmore cab. I now look at other cabinets like your and want nice rounded corners. I also see you have the back plate to make the machine extend to the edge. I almost thru mine out because I thought it was junk. Unfortunately i didnt figure it out until after I wired the unit. Yes I know I can unscrew and run the wires but not in a square cabinet... We all really have a sickness.

gmcttr
09-04-2014, 10:25
...I also see you have the back plate to make the machine extend to the edge....

That's the spring assist lift plate. It helps to raise and lower the machine.

Koolranch
09-04-2014, 10:41
Here is the start of many more to come.

158.19470

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/04/7a0b2bc5da7f92e9d4f5762d6e6b4267.jpg

158.13033

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/04/40471495f475b1e49b9dd79583cb7834.jpg

I paid $35.00 got the 1947 and $25.00 for the 13033.

miyanc
09-04-2014, 13:23
That's the spring assist lift plate. It helps to raise and lower the machine.

it really is great to have you and the other that know so much. I would just keep calling it a thingy. I guess I am missing the spring and how to install it. I just looked at it as an ascetic thing.

Beckyinma
09-10-2014, 17:07
Here are my sewing machines. I'm a lady, I can call them that. :laugh: My 'modern' machine is an Elna 3005. Great machine, purchased used from a local dealer about 15 years ago after an older kenmore died. I paid quite a bit for it back then and it hasn't had many problems. Does well on most fabrics, many stitches, button holed, and walking presser foot, which I probably use 95% of the time when I use this machine. It keeps the top fabric feeding at the same rate as the bottom...

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This is my baby, it is a 1954 Singer 301A slant foot that I found at the swap shed at the dump this spring. It needed a good dusting and cleaning on the case, and a lube on the gears, and a new cord run from the foot to the machine plug, but otherwise it was in amazing shape, I didn't even have to adjust the tension. It is a workhorse, and it sews everything. I've put $7.50 into it for new bobbins. The table came from a yard sale about 5 years ago, I believe it had a black 301 in it as this brown one fits without any alteration, but at the time the black machine wasn't working and I didn't know the value of an awesome 301 so I tossed it at the dump and took out all of the table guts aside from the mounting brackets. (good thing!)

It is now my preferred machine.

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Rat
09-10-2014, 17:34
This is my baby, it is a 1954 Singer 301A slant foot...

It is now my preferred machine.

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Nice, love these slant models and years. 301A is such a great machine!

Beckyinma
09-10-2014, 17:43
Nice, love these slant models and years. 301A is such a great machine!


Yah they are!

Type2Cyclist
09-10-2014, 20:57
Picked up this sweet Craigslist find today. I've been looking for the right machine for a while. Couldn't quite pull the trigger on a plastic rig and the Vintage Singers were going in this area for more than I really felt comfortable with.

Have to replace the belt, clean and lube the internals and do something with the vintage wiring and she'll be ready to roll.

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zooshooter
09-11-2014, 06:48
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Older Kenmore Rotary from 1939. Picked her up for free from CL. Original owner wasn't sure she still ran but after several nights of cleaning up with rubbing alcohol and lots of q-tips, a rewire, and some minor parts replacements, she's back up and running. Completely stripped, sanded, and re-finished the cabinet while I was at it. I really should revisit the wiring with some sheathing, but it's ok for now.

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Beckyinma
09-11-2014, 21:25
93030

Older Kenmore Rotary from 1939. Picked her up for free from CL. Original owner wasn't sure she still ran but after several nights of cleaning up with rubbing alcohol and lots of q-tips, a rewire, and some minor parts replacements, she's back up and running. Completely stripped, sanded, and re-finished the cabinet while I was at it. I really should revisit the wiring with some sheathing, but it's ok for now.

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Beautiful! Nice work!

Wkerber
09-13-2014, 07:27
Picked up this sweet Craigslist find today. I've been looking for the right machine for a while. Couldn't quite pull the trigger on a plastic rig and the Vintage Singers were going in this area for more than I really felt comfortable with.

Have to replace the belt, clean and lube the internals and do something with the vintage wiring and she'll be ready to roll.

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That will be a fine diy machine. I've got mostly singer machines and one Kenmore. Looking to pick up one more Kenmore when I find the right one at the right price. Those Kenny's sometimes have a little stronger motor 1 or 1.2 amp compared to the vintage singer's .72 amp motors (in the slant-o-matics). But then again, probably don't need more motor than what the singers have in 90% of what you would diy.

Thumbs
09-13-2014, 08:34
With the exception of the Pfaff industrial, of all the machines I've had the very smoothest and fastest stitcher was a Kenmore. Don't overlook them in your searching.
Machines in general with the bobbin on the side are going to be faster and smoother. The top bobbin adds more parts and complication to the machine.
I started out looking for the top bobbin machines because they would be easier to change bobbins, and they are, but the side bobbin machines are fine.
In general, machines with an internal motor are newer, and more likely to have plastic gears.

Koolranch
09-13-2014, 09:44
In the last month I have caught the bug and I really like the vintage Kenmore machines. I would like to start a specific thread to show off and discuss these machines. I started with the model number followed by the year or years they where manufactured. Additionally if someone can recommend what they think the best Kenmore's to have are would be great. Here is what I've accumulated in the last month. So far I'm only using the 1947.

158.19470 (1975-1976)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/a874b232a880888ca3c6f56458d5e8ea.jpg

158.14100 (1971-1972)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/2cd466f8dcd711d22aafe151e6163085.jpg

158.13011 (1969-1969)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/7261be880db92b4b9ec2a9774c1fceac.jpg

158.13033 (1969-1971)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/57ac3b5ef5305fe0a68cb2c64dff713a.jpg

gmcttr
09-13-2014, 11:45
...I would like to start a specific thread to show off and discuss these machines. ...

Just a note to everyone. I merged the above post/thread with this thread. Here is my thinking.

Although sewing machine discussions have been allowed in the 'Do-It-Yourself (DIY)' forum, it is technically an "off topic" subject. As such, I think it is best if we 'sewing machine folks' don't push our luck with separate "Show Us Your ***" threads.

There are many forums/groups for each make of machine for those desiring more in depth, make specific info.

Thanks for understanding.

Rat
09-13-2014, 15:42
Silly me, I've been looking for the Kenmore thread since I read Koolranch's post... Thanks for the heads up.

Geck0
09-13-2014, 22:30
Today I scored a second Kenmore 117-958 off of Craigslist. It's a honey. I may never touch my wife's Huskvarna again. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/7fa90078204720952a01c6d058731312.jpg

Koolranch
09-14-2014, 07:26
Today I scored a second Kenmore 117-958 off of Craigslist. It's a honey. I may never touch my wife's Huskvarna again. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/7fa90078204720952a01c6d058731312.jpg

Wow that looks awesome. How much did you give for it?

gr8brew
09-14-2014, 07:29
Today I scored a second Kenmore 117-958 off of Craigslist. It's a honey. I may never touch my wife's Huskvarna again. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/7fa90078204720952a01c6d058731312.jpg<br/>

That thing is the most masculine thread injector I've ever seen

Wilson
09-14-2014, 07:34
Acquired this Kenmore 158.1751 back in May. It needed a new belt and the bobbin winder needed to be unfrozen. A few drops of machine oil later and she's purring like a kitten. :boggle:93205

Geck0
09-14-2014, 07:57
Wow that looks awesome. How much did you give for it?
$20. [emoji41] I figured the extra presser feet were worth that. And the desk it's in isn't bad either.

Koolranch
09-14-2014, 22:04
$20. [emoji41] I figured the extra presser feet were worth that. And the desk it's in isn't bad either.

Nice find and price.

miyanc
09-14-2014, 22:33
Just a note to everyone. I merged the above post/thread with this thread. Here is my thinking.

Although sewing machine discussions have been allowed in the 'Do-It-Yourself (DIY)' forum, it is technically an "off topic" subject. As such, I think it is best if we 'sewing machine folks' don't push our luck with separate "Show Us Your ***" threads.

There are many forums/groups for each make of machine for those desiring more in depth, make specific info.

Thanks for understanding.
I had suggested a better organization to the diy area, why not make a machine only section for all things machines? It could even be part of the donating memebers secfions (not that I have had time to renew my memebrship).
I think the key difference is that the people here are all diy gear junkies. The love of machines and all that we invest time in is an off shoot of making hammock related gear. I know the idea behind hf is to keep all things hammocks, but we talk about ultra lite, knives, food, coffee and manynother subjects because they are a part of camping and in such hammock camping. I could argue the importance of these threads about machines as more so then most. New vendors, ideas and products start with someone and a machine. Most of our vendors started as such.

Doesn't matter to me all things good in sectors 1-6.

zooshooter
09-17-2014, 09:51
I finally landed myself a 500A. I am very excited for this purchase although I haven't bothered taking any pictures of it yet. It only came with the zig-zag foot and 1 tophat but I was able to snag a set of 403 attachments for $15 and hope to see them by Sat. I'm really looking forward to setting this thing up and using it. Now I just need to get rid of the 2 other machines I have.

Geck0
09-21-2014, 10:22
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/21/3985d8bd75530a0c1e37e182285aa036.jpg

Please help me out, HF gurus. Can you identify this machine and is it a model worth upsetting my wife over? [emoji41]

gmcttr
09-21-2014, 11:06
...Please help me out, HF gurus. Can you identify this machine and is it a model worth upsetting my wife over? [emoji41]

That is a Singer 101. They were made from 1920-1937 and were the first electric only mahines made by Singer. It has the "potted" motor built in on the back.

http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/model-list/classes-100-199.html

It is straight stitch only, no reverse. In good condition, it should sew a very nice stitch.

Being ~90 years old, there is a very good chance the wiring will need replaced all the way to the motor. Other than the bobbin winder tire, bobbins and needles, donor machine parts will be very difficult to find should one ever be needed.

Dad has one in his collection, but I have only looked at it and have no experience with this model.

This is not a machine I would upset the wife over. Then again, I have many machines and no wife, so what do I know?

Geck0
09-21-2014, 11:33
Thanks for the info and quick reply. Seller is asking $45. I'm on the fence.