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hiker_DC
01-29-2010, 13:32
My new Nano 7 arrived in the mail the other day:D One of the things that intrigued me was the "cord lock" on the stuff sack. Basically it is a knotted piece of cord that slides up and down the main cinch line of the sack. Even though it slides easily, the knot stays where you put . . . it keeps the stuff sack closed. Talk about ultra light. My question is what kind of knot is it?:confused:
Doc
Widerstand
01-29-2010, 13:40
A picture would help.
jeffjenn
01-29-2010, 13:50
I have used something like a triple or quad fisherman's bend to do what you are describing. It worked well.
hiker_DC
01-29-2010, 14:09
A picture would help.
Probably not. In order to secure it, the cord has been melted so that the bends and tucks are hard to make out.
yea, I noticed this too. Initially I thought it was just a knot they tied to keep it closed for shipping then I discovered it slid up and down. What a cool idea to save some weight.
BlackGoat
01-29-2010, 15:52
I thought it looked like a Prusik Knot with the loop and ends melted together. I have used this same method on my stuff sacks and have found that it works really well.
DG
cavscout
01-29-2010, 16:27
I noticed that as well. It appears to be a pair of overhand knots, or some sort of plain knot, melted together. I spent quite a while pulling at that thing until it shifted and I realized what it was. It was very snug. Cool solution to the UL cord lock.
KerMegan
01-29-2010, 16:49
is there a picture anywhere?
TrailH4x
01-29-2010, 17:04
Looks like there are asome half hitches involved in it, but I can't make out the initial knot.
Still awaiting pics~~~~
POIDH
TrailH4x
01-29-2010, 21:00
Waiting on pics... Listen to them- will ya! It's sub 2mm black tight hollow braid. I was barely able to trace the string with my eyes and a pick! (And I'm too cheap and weight conscious to buy a nice camera with quality lenses).
The foundation appears to be an overhand knot going over/under from left to right, left strand then running behind the draws from left to right in a round turn to form two consecutive half-hitches. The ends then trimmed and heated to allow them to fuse back to the main knot body with a finger (finger print noticable on one side of the fuse on mine).
headchange4u
01-29-2010, 21:03
Maybe something like a taut-line hitch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taut-line_hitch) with the ends burned?
cavscout
01-29-2010, 22:14
It's the knot on the left.
http://www.oconeeleatherworks.com/img_3235.jpg
http://www.oconeeleatherworks.com/img_3236.jpg
KerMegan
01-29-2010, 22:54
It appears to be a free floating unit- worked around the two parallel strings?
which would explain the need for fusing.
hmm. this requires thought.
Ironically, when I received my Nano (not from this contest, but long ago), I thought that knot was a mistake. I tugged and tugged and finally took my knife out and cut it off and replaced it with a mini cordlock. It wasn't until later that I found out it was a knot with a purpose!
cavscout
01-30-2010, 00:01
I too was about half a second away from just cutting the cord when the knot shifted and the mystery was revealed :)
headchange4u
01-30-2010, 08:41
I can't really tell from the pics, but it does look very similar to the taut-line hitch.
Is it 2 wraps on one side and one wrap on the other side with the burned end exiting in opposite directions?
hiker_DC
02-01-2010, 17:15
I can't really tell from the pics, but it does look very similar to the taut-line hitch.
Is it 2 wraps on one side and one wrap on the other side with the burned end exiting in opposite directions?
I'm at my office right now between patients so I don't have my hammock with me. I just tied the taut-line hitch and seems to look and work in the same manner. This is probably it.
A neat alternative to a plastic cord lock.
Doc
hiker_DC
02-02-2010, 15:20
OK. Here are the pictures that some of you wanted to see. Kind of hard to see, but then I am no pro photographer.
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=253&pictureid=2137
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=253&pictureid=2136
Doc