Ridge Reaper - does it need draft collars?

[hutzelbein]

Do the draft collars make a difference on the Ridge Reaper? I have only used the Lynx and that doesn't have any. Are they worth the extra money?

[TrailSlug]

I wouldn't think they would be needed because if the quilt fits like it's supposed to it will be rubber band tight.

[georgecarr]

Not necessary, but I've used my demo at hangs and it definitely makes an air tight seal.

[underserviced]

I ordered them on mine. I'd rather spend the few extra dollars now, rather than wish I'd ordered them later. I figured they might help with wind and there are a few hangs I do each year with the potential for -20 C/ -4 F. I'd rather be warm than sorry!

That being said, my hanging Buddy uses a Lynx. I'll report back in the spring.

[hutzelbein]

Thanks for the answers. I sleep very cold, but my feeling was, that the Lynx doesn't have any gaps that need sealing. I assume that the Ridge Reaper has the same kind of seal; that's why I was wondering what a draft collar can possibly add. I found draft collars helpful to some degree with shock cord suspended underquilts, but the Wooki (which to me is the equivalent of the Lynx for GE hammocks) made them redundant. It's not so much about the money but rather the added weight. If the collars add noticeably more warmth that would be OK.

[TrailSlug]

I would be afraid the collars would work opposite the way they were designed by pulling the under quilt away for those few inches where they are against the quilt. I know my Lynx fits very tight as I tried to grab the edge last weekend and could hardly get my fingers between the hammock and the quilt so there's no air getting in there.

[georgecarr]

I would be afraid the collars would work opposite the way they were designed by pulling the under quilt away for those few inches where they are against the quilt. I know my Lynx fits very tight as I tried to grab the edge last weekend and could hardly get my fingers between the hammock and the quilt so there's no air getting in there.
The collars absolutely don't push the quilt away. Even on a gathered end they shouldn't push the quilt away. As I said, they are not a necessity, but if you toss a lot the could help avoid any momentary issues. I slept in a 20° Ridge Reaper 2 weeks ago and was absolutely warm all night, no matter how I moved (and I was all over the place :scared:).

[IRONFISH45]

I would be afraid the collars would work opposite the way they were designed by pulling the under quilt away for those few inches where they are against the quilt. I know my Lynx fits very tight as I tried to grab the edge last weekend and could hardly get my fingers between the hammock and the quilt so there's no air getting in there.

I was just thinking through Draft Collar or not. I see George Carr's comment, however I think Trail Slug echos my thoughts on the draft collar.

I do put draft stoppers on my TQ because they stop all the little air leaks. I just use a flange of fabric, no down needed, just a flap of fabric gets the leaks. The UQ and TQ form a seal.

I sleep really cool, my heart rate drops very low plus I hang a lot in humid conditions, our snow is more like white rain.

My Lynx was a nice secure fit, never a leak of cold air. I am probably going to replace it with the 0 degree w/o draft collar, maybe, not sure as I am thinking about this discussion.

Maybe the fact it is offered as a option means it might or could be needed. I guess I will go back to the Winter Lynx, with a proven to me, preformance.

[georgecarr]

I would be afraid the collars would work opposite the way they were designed by pulling the under quilt away for those few inches where they are against the quilt. I know my Lynx fits very tight as I tried to grab the edge last weekend and could hardly get my fingers between the hammock and the quilt so there's no air getting in there.


I was just thinking through Draft Collar or not. I see George Carr's comment, however I think Trail Slug echos my thoughts on the draft collar.

I do put draft stoppers on my TQ because they stop all the little air leaks. I just use a flange of fabric, no down needed, just a flap of fabric gets the leaks. The UQ and TQ form a seal.

I sleep really cool, my heart rate drops very low plus I hang a lot in humid conditions, our snow is more like white rain.

My Lynx was a nice secure fit, never a leak of cold air. I am probably going to replace it with the 0 degree w/o draft collar, maybe, not sure as I am thinking about this discussion.

Maybe the fact it is offered as a option means it might or could be needed. I guess I will go back to the Winter Lynx, with a proven to me, preformance.

Since you are both established and respected posters here I'll put my money where my mouth is - I'll send my 20° Ridge reaper out to each of you to try if you'd like. Then you can make an informed opinion of the product. Just pm me and let me know.:)

[TrailSlug]

Since you are both established and respected posters here I'll put my money where my mouth is - I'll send my 20° Ridge reaper out to each of you to try if you'd like. Then you can make an informed opinion of the product. Just pm me and let me know.:)
Sorry George as you are the designer and have done the testing you have the first hand knowledge. In my mind (which is getting weaker by the day) I was just "thinking" it would create a bump but like you said I do not have one of these so I can't and shouldn't have commented. If it works as well as all of your other quilts that I own it'll work great as I love my 3 LocoLibre Ghost Pepper quilts. I apologize for the doubt.

[georgecarr]

Sorry George as you are the designer and have done the testing you have the first hand knowledge. In my mind (which is getting weaker by the day) I was just "thinking" it would create a bump but like you said I do not have one of these so I can't and shouldn't have commented. If it works as well as all of your other quilts that I own it'll work great as I love my 3 LocoLibre Ghost Pepper quilts. I apologize for the doubt.

Nah, NO apology necessary (wasn't looking for one), and sorry if you got the wrong tone. Just thought it would be an opportunity to let the community try the product since it's so new, and what better and more honest review than from those who aren't sure. Offer still stands.

[The Tree Frog]

Here is my two cents. I had the opportunity (luxury) of testing the Ridge Reaper on my Ridgerunner. It had the draft collars. In my opinion, they are not needed. But, I will also confirm, the one I tested had them and they did not push the UQ out either.

Bottom line is this, they are offered as an option for those of us who are cold sleepers and would feel better with them than without. If you have them on a gathered end UQ, you may feel more comfortable, mentally, getting them.

[TrailSlug]

Nah, NO apology necessary (wasn't looking for one), and sorry if you got the wrong tone. Just thought it would be an opportunity to let the community try the product since it's so new, and what better and more honest review than from those who aren't sure. Offer still stands.Send that baby on and I'll give you an honest review. You have my address on file.

[HandyRandy]

Just thought it would be an opportunity to let the community try the product since it's so new, and what better and more honest review than from those who aren't sure. Offer still stands.

This idea makes sense and I like it! I never even knew about this quilt before, but I am definitely curious about it now! Hopefully, we get to see this review and many more like it [emoji18]

[underserviced]

Further to the comments above. I don't think the draft collars are necessary, but I'm glad I've got them. They DO NOT push the UQ away. The collars simple compress and seal things up. I will say that I'm glad I've got them.

I just posted this on another thread asking who has rec'd their RidgeReaper's yet:

I've been able to use it down to about 25F with wind and snow inside a Spindrift.

The quilt is awesome, just awesome. First of all, I appreciated the call from George to confirm a few details. Just a quick call to make sure things would be perfect. On first inspection: the colors are vibrant. I guess the colors are pretty standard across manufacturers so maybe it's just that I picked a great color combo. I pulled the UQ out of the package and was immediately impressed with the loft. I can't find anything to complain about with the build. The chevron baffles are a work of art. The biners are nice and he's got red to mark the head (so it's matchy matchy for the rest of my gear).

I ordered the 0F Ridge Reaper - Fill: 800 fill power Downtek Duck Down, Outer Color: Charcoal Gray Argon 90, Inner Color: Burnt Orange Argon 67 Taffeta

I clipped the PERFECTLY fitting quilt to my RR and lay down to test it. It's the kind of quilt that takes no time for the quilt to radiate heat back. Just amazing. I got to take it camping for a field test. It did NOT disappoint. This UQ is officially one of my favorite pieces of gear.

I'll follow up with pictures in the next day or so.

Order with the confidence, you won't be disappointed.

THANKS GEORGE!

[Gravitythief76]

What happened to the pics?!?��

[Benson Burner]

What happened to the pics?!?��

And the verdict on the draft colors…From the review there


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[georgecarr]

And the verdict on the draft colors…From the review there


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Never were a "have to" have, just like draft collars on a regular quilt aren't 100% necessary. I offered them in the beginning because I thought maybe they would help if someone was a restless sleeper. The verdict so far has been a unanimous "not necessary". I removed them as an option early on because it seems some took it to mean you needed them for the quilt to work properly.That is just not the case, and I'd rather eliminate any confusion.

I have a Ridge Reaper both with and without, and they function equally as well.

[TrailSlug]

I tested one of these quits for George and again it's a winner. It was shipped with a draft collar and after testing with one I'd opt for it. While it does get slightly compressed when I'm in the hammock due to my 195 lbs it would help if someone much lighter climbed in to ensure there are no areas for any air to enter. Also if you are a sleeper that like me flips all night long they may come in handy. If you are on the fence I'd highly recommend this quit as it's a very warm quilt. I received the 20° rated quilt and was able to test it down to 16° for two nights and I was very warm. The first night there wasn't a lot of wind but the second night it was very breezy yet I stayed toasty warm. The fit and finish on the quilt was exactly like my other LocoLibre quits and not a single flaw could be found. Stitching was beautiful and I always really like the looks of those chevron baffles. As soon as the funds become available I'll be adding one of these to my collection. Thanks George for allowing me to test one of these quilts.
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[Benson Burner]

I tested one of these quits for George and again it's a winner. It was shipped with a draft collar and after testing with one I'd opt for it. While it does get slightly compressed when I'm in the hammock due to my 195 lbs it would help if someone much lighter climbed in to ensure there are no areas for any air to enter. Also if you are a sleeper that like me flips all night long they may come in handy. If you are on the fence I'd highly recommend this quit as it's a very warm quilt. I received the 20° rated quilt and was able to test it down to 16° for two nights and I was very warm. The first night there wasn't a lot of wind but the second night it was very breezy yet I stayed toasty warm. The fit and finish on the quilt was exactly like my other LocoLibre quits and not a single flaw could be found. Stitching was beautiful and I always really like the looks of those chevron baffles. As soon as the funds become available I'll be adding one of these to my collection. Thanks George for allowing me to test one of these quilts.
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Ok yeah that’s what I meant what did you think after he sent it to you. Sounds like you love it but it isn’t offered anymore. That’s a funny one. Well. I’m sure he’s throw some on custom style if asked when ordering. I was curious on the stretchy ends. Does the ol ridge reaper have those stretchy ends the lynx have? I’m sure he’s got something there


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[TrailSlug]

Ok yeah that’s what I meant what did you think after he sent it to you. Sounds like you love it but it isn’t offered anymore. That’s a funny one. Well. I’m sure he’s throw some on custom style if asked when ordering. I was curious on the stretchy ends. Does the ol ridge reaper have those stretchy ends the lynx have? I’m sure he’s got something thereYes I'm sure if you want them George would work with you. Yes the ends have adjustable shock cord as pictured here and it works as good as the rubber bands that others use.
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