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kattdogg
12-10-2017, 17:48
Orderd the minus 40 Carolina Reaper for the not black friday sale, now the wait lol! But laying in the hammock this weekend I had an idea that I know is probably not original but thought I would slap it up here. A pocket inside the top quilt or under quilt for your phone, the tq on your chest the uq right by your shoulder?

HandyRandy
12-10-2017, 17:54
Why not try it out?! Sounds like it could possibly be nice to have, but the proof will be in the pudding!


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TrailSlug
12-10-2017, 18:58
I would think it would cause too much sag for an under quilt. Get yourself a Warbonnet hammock with either the shelf like on the XLC or the saddle bags on the Ridgerunner. I couldn't do without these as all my gear, gloves, hats, phone, battery charger, etc go in my saddle bags on the Ridgerunner.

kattdogg
12-10-2017, 19:35
Ive had warbonnet and sold it, not impressed, and i dont agree, the weight of a phone on the uq when you are laying in it is not going to cause it to sag unless its a 10lb phone, and im not thinking of storage i am thinking of keeping your phone warm or even your fuel for your stove warm

Vanhalo
12-10-2017, 19:44
Trail Lair comes with a zippered pocket option.

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Watertooner
12-10-2017, 19:55
I have the Warbonnet XLC and the RR. The storage options on both work well - except for keeping things (phones, etc) warm on a 15ļ night like last night. I didn't have pockets on either part of my baselayer (shirt, pants), but I did manage to keep my phone warm while sleeping. Since this is a family friendly forum, I can't publish how I solved the issue. Suffice it to say that the phone didn't contact my skin for those who may think, "Eww." A quilt pocket such as Kattdogg has in mind is intriguing.

georgecarr
12-10-2017, 20:40
I'm always open to new ideas. Even so, it's probably not something I'd want to do, as the weight of the phone would cause the pocket to pull on the stitching, possibly causing a down leak.

goobie
12-10-2017, 20:51
I'm always open to new ideas. Even so, it's probably not something I'd want to do, as the weight of the phone would cause the pocket to pull on the stitching, possibly causing a down leak.

Insulated pouch we can attach to a seam? Possibly omni tape to the seam on the top edge of the TQ or the side seam of the UQ?

The Tree Frog
12-10-2017, 21:06
It is a great idea for us who camp in winter. My phone dies a quick death in the cold. It currently resides between my legs outside of my base layer. Sits in the bottom of my hammock. Doesn't usually move too much.

To George's point, if it could cause damage, not a great idea. So, just sew a pocket in your clothes if you don't have one! Maybe a Velcro pouch that will stick to your chest shirt, base layer etc, to keep warm and handy.

kattdogg
12-10-2017, 21:15
I'm always open to new ideas. Even so, it's probably not something I'd want to do, as the weight of the phone would cause the pocket to pull on the stitching, possibly causing a down leak.

What if it was a separate pocket with the attatchment point on the grossgrain on the underquilt, maybe a velcro attached pocket on the topquilt. I purchased a uq dec 1st, i would be willing to be a tester of the idea lol

SilvrSurfr
12-10-2017, 21:21
Seems a bit extreme - you can just wear a fleece vest and put whatever you want in the pockets. I personally subscribe to the philosophy that a device should try to do its intended job, rather than try to do several things not too well. I expect my quilts to keep me warm, rather than keep my water warm, or my cell phone or tablet warm.

HandyRandy
12-10-2017, 23:09
After thinking about it, Iím thinking it would be much more practical to sew a stretchy fabric basic pocket to the hammock itself, which would be strategically placed in order to keep it out of your way, but also covered by the UQ for cold nights to keep itís contents warm. It might work better on the outside or inside. Anyone care to begin research?


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kattdogg
12-10-2017, 23:29
I thought of on the quilts that way very little chance of rolling onto it and breaking it or it falling out of the hammock, and in one location so you can grab it easily.

And personally putting it in a chest pocket in a fleece doesnt work for me cause of i roll onto my phone or anything in that pocket it digs into my boobs

HandyRandy
12-10-2017, 23:46
I thought of on the quilts that way very little chance of rolling onto it and breaking it or it falling out of the hammock, and in one location so you can grab it easily.

And personally putting it in a chest pocket in a fleece doesnt work for me cause of i roll onto my phone or anything in that pocket it digs into my boobs

Then why not sew a pocket to the outside of the hammock fabric? You could even design it to be insulated from both sides, one half insulated by the UQ. No problems rolling over it. Same accessibility and the pocket will stay in a consistent location.


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rais'n hammock
12-10-2017, 23:47
I have thought about the pocket in the quilt as a pplace to store the phone in the colder months. It would be a solution for fuel too.
I currently put my phone in a pocket of my light wool shirt but the shirt is too thin and the phone can become uncomfortable when side sleeping. I think I will work on a pocket to hold the phone that I can rest just over the outside of the hammock but between the hammock and UQ. Maybe connect the pocket to the UQ with a quilt hook.

kattdogg
12-10-2017, 23:50
Because my hammock changes on a whim.... lol my uq doesn't lol..... and i cant sew. And if a cottage vendors is willing to give it a try or charge an extra 10 or 15 for a pocket why not. I keep hearing "just do this instead" like its a horrible idea to suggest a pocket on a quilt. When we should be like heck yah give it a try see how it works....

HandyRandy
12-10-2017, 23:55
If you want a pocket on your top quilt, it seems like outside the bottom of your foot box would be a great spot and you could insulate the outside of the pocket to fully protect it. Not good for netless hammocks maybe, but thatís where Iíd put a pocket. I would simply make it a sealable pocket placed at the bottom half of the outside of the bottom of the foot box. That way the contents wouldnít tug on the quilt too much.


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kattdogg
12-11-2017, 00:03
If you want a pocket on your top quilt, it seems like outside the bottom of your foot box would be a great spot and you could insulate the outside of the pocket to fully protect it. Not good for netless hammocks maybe, but that’s where I’d put a pocket. I would simply make it a sealable pocket placed at the bottom half of the outside of the bottom of the foot box. That way the contents wouldn’t tug on the quilt too much.


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That another good idea, maybe even a slip pocket or two for the inside of the foot box, in cold weather you could slip some body wamers in there, that way they stay down by your feet to keep them warm!

HandyRandy
12-11-2017, 00:05
The idea of it being on the top quiltís bottom is it would be putting it in an arguably easier to access place; inside your zippered winter top cover, instead of outside your microclimate requiring you to let out some heat to access that kind of UQ pocket. If you are using a netless hammock or a sock, your preferences might vary.


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Black
12-11-2017, 00:29
I always keep the phone in my shirt pocket. I side sleep in my WBB XLC and WBRR. The phone stays warm and safe. I would not use a pocket on a quilt.

infrastellar
12-11-2017, 04:28
When I bought my quilts from cumulus, I asked them to make pockets on topquilts and underquilts as well. To store my phone and camera batteries in the winter. Its quite common to have a pocket in the sleeping bag for example, dont see any reason not to have one in the topquilt.

gargoyle
12-11-2017, 06:02
I agree with the rest that a vest/shirt or jacket pocket is more functional.
I have seen custom quilts with pockets in the past. Vendors will bend over backwards for the right $. I've seen chest pockets and foot pockets in quilts. Both were beautifully installed at a cost, but the performance was not as expected.
I have a quilt with a pocket. IMO, its a cute gimmick, but not that functional. I need to still carry the items around camp and the items do not stay warm if I leave them in the unoccupied quilt. A jacket pocket is the best. A quilt pocket is just one more place to loose/misplace my phone...:lol:

Katt, you don't sew, but $10-$15 wont even cover the extra steps involved to make what your envisioning happen. It is complicated to add a zippered pocket to the thin material. The added weight of items in the pocket does cause issues with how the quilt lofts and drapes.
As you mentioned, the phone interferes with your personal comfort when worn in a pocket. How would a weighted pocket with a phone in the quilt be any different?

My personal fav is a zippered pocket in an anorak/hoodie. The items are secure during the day and night, stay warm, and really not noticeable while sleeping.

TrailSlug
12-11-2017, 08:29
I have the Warbonnet XLC and the RR. The storage options on both work well - except for keeping things (phones, etc) warm on a 15ļ night like last night. I didn't have pockets on either part of my baselayer (shirt, pants), but I did manage to keep my phone warm while sleeping. Since this is a family friendly forum, I can't publish how I solved the issue. Suffice it to say that the phone didn't contact my skin for those who may think, "Eww." A quilt pocket such as Kattdogg has in mind is intriguing.Keeping the phone warm on a Ridgerunner is easy. Put your phone in one of the saddle bags and then tuck that between your under quilt and the bottom of the hammock. I do this on every winter trip and the phone stays toasty, the Lynx doesn't sag as it's tight as a guitar string and you do not feel the phone at all.

TrailSlug
12-11-2017, 08:32
Then why not sew a pocket to the outside of the hammock fabric? You could even design it to be insulated from both sides, one half insulated by the UQ. No problems rolling over it. Same accessibility and the pocket will stay in a consistent location.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI've hung with guys who have had ENO's and they put their things in the hammocks stuff sack that is sewn to the outside of the hammock and flip it into the under quilt. Depending on how much weight is in this pocket it doesn't pull the under quilt out too much.

TrailSlug
12-11-2017, 08:37
When I'm in my Chameleon I used a small cotton bag and a hand warmer to store my phone, fuel, and water filter. So far so good. This (https://www.amazon.com/Large-Muslin-Cotton-Drawstring-count/dp/B01GQSJWKS/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_0_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01GQSJWKS&pd_rd_r=KEZZ1CK0SP46XCRNTQ0V&pd_rd_w=j2QqX&pd_rd_wg=gFmq3&psc=1&refRID=KEZZ1CK0SP46XCRNTQ0V)is the type of bag I use:

michigandave
12-11-2017, 08:49
My SLD protoype hammock has that netted pouch built in, but I keep it at the foot end, since usually I have stinky socks in it and I really don't want to sleep with it next to my face. I've toyed around with the idea of a small pouch hung on some shockcord that would go between the outside of my hammock and underquilt.

Seems like I always go with my tried and true option: I have a Terramer brand vest I got from Campmor about 6 or 7 years ago that has a couple zip pockets. It's comfortable to sleep in and there's plenty of room for my phone, extra batteries and a lighter. I was using one of those protective phone cases with the belt clip that I would just clip into my zippered fleece, but I just snapped of the clip again for the 3rd time, so enough is enough.

GadgetUK437
12-11-2017, 09:13
Cheap Neck Pouch?
http://www.innate-gear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/415-NeckPouch-blue1-480x550.jpg
cheap adaptable option.

Vanhalo
12-11-2017, 09:17
My SLD protoype hammock has that netted pouch built in, but I keep it at the foot end, since usually I have stinky socks in it and I really don't want to sleep with it next to my face.

I also flipped the SLD TL for this reason.

I considered throwing in some hand warmers so my feet would feel the warmth....but i think that is asking too much through the quilt.

TxAggie
12-11-2017, 09:17
I have one of those small sized packing cubes that I always use for my electronics when traveling. Itís large enough that I can fit my phone, Anker charger, and probably one or two more items if needed. I just lay it on my chest when I go to sleep. Since Iím usually pretty sill in a hammock, most mornings itís still on my chest when I wake up. Sometimes I roll on my side, and itís usually tucked neatly right up against me. It keeps my Anker and phone nice and warm and allows me to recharge my phone overnight if needed.
For winter camping, I just bite the bullet and carry an MSR Whisperlite. Yeah, thereís a weight penalty, but I know I have plenty of heat and fuel regardless of the conditions. With the smaller fuel bottle, itís really not much heavier than the canister stoves.

snwcmpr
12-11-2017, 09:54
You could wrap the phone in your extra clothes. That way it can go anywhere that you have extra clothes. If you get another TQ or UQ you would have to sew pockets on them, too.
Or, leave your phone at home.

Just Bill
12-11-2017, 10:14
A 'joey pouch' is about the only functional application that makes much sense, though the footbox idea isn't a bad one either.

Sleeping bags have had this feature but the construction of them better supports the idea. And the idea was to keep batteries (or you headlamp really) close by in a warm spot.

With a quilt- anywhere on the upper 2/3rds of a Top quilt isn't that practical because what works for one doesn't work for all. A typical smartphone is up around half a pound with a case. Sewn to a 24-32 ounce winter quilt really throws the quilt off. So you'd find it sliding off you unless you located a perfect spot for you... which isn't the perfect spot for me, or the next person.

Footbox... similar problem but maybe not quite as bad. Where exactly do you sew the brick in there so that it doesn't end up under you, or resting on you? And then a spot that works for most won't work for all. If you roll over in the quilt... will the footbox still follow you or will the brick resist rolling over and twist up the quilt... compressing your insulation?

A joey pouch (think kangaroo) on the inside at roughly crotch location is not a bad location. Years ago TNF and one or two other vendors had something like that for sleeping bags because you could reach the pouch easily at that spot.
And for the vendors and DIY folks following along- you attach the pouch baffle seam to baffle seam so it's in a slightly more reinforced location besides simply sewing it on.

All that said... nice for batteries or a one ounce headlamp... tougher for today's pile of electronics. No matter how perfectly built, it would likely interfere with the quilt performance or your comfort.

Not impossible- but not as cut and dry as you think either. Mainly because I could probably build one that worked for Katt, that didn't work for Goobie. You're both different heights, sizes, with different preferences and sleep positions. That's only two customers with a 50/50 chance of success.

A couple things others do that work:
I prefer wearing a button up shirt with a front pocket or vest with similar. The phone needs to be stored next to your body during the day to function, so for me that location fits my sleep position and my phone.

Lots of LD hikers go with the porn star- stuff it in a sock, stuff it in your undies.

I've seen plenty of scouts and bushcraft minded folks in the winter who do a fanny pack or similar pouch they wear slung across their chest at all times. Besides electronics- fire starters and other critical items are stored there. Part woodsman trick, part wilderness survival idea with that. Just an extra layer of caution to keep your nearest and dearest close just in case or for that 'walk away from camp' or turned around when you take a crap scenario. Point being- It tends to work well with clothing/pack/and when sleeping. You can wear it fanny pack style, or as a chest pack at bra strap height when sleeping if cross chest isn't comfortable.

The food cozy idea plus a hot hands or similiar works. The phone won't give off enough heat to warm itself. So the food cozy (or insulated pouch/jacket/vest) only works with a supplemental heat source.
This might be a nice idea (an oversized coozy) if you coupled it with a hot water bottle/bladder as both are items you want to keep thawed that you might not want in your bed.

Insulated pillow pouches or handwarmers. Think something like the ladies big fur handwarmer or even a buff. An insulated tube for your hands that you fill stuff into to become a pillow when you go to bed. You wrap your phone into that bundle.

Sweatshirt/Anarook kangaroo hand pouches are common as well. Right at your belly is a good spot overall and that's why that garment is coming back in popularity among bushcraft folks too... it's always on you and you can store a crap ton of of stuff without interfering with sleep or pack straps.

Remember (in theory) if you're out winter camping... you are out 24/7. So the solution you want should work all day- walking/camp/sleeping. An outer jacket pocket is a bust because it's too far away from you. Just outside your baselayer but within your insulation layers is the location you want.

If you're at Da Shack... and your phone is in your pocket or the cabin and only exposed at night then I would get why you might be extra focused on a night time solution... But to me that's only 1/3rd of the solution and finding a nice way to carry it close to you that doesn't interfere with your backpack or your sleeping position is the better solution. I think that others feel the same way which is why you don't see things built into the quilt.

We used to joke about that as kids in scouts... by the time you put your stove fuel, batteries, flashlight, water, pee bottle, damp socks, boot liners, tomorrows clothes and the ten other things you were supposed to keep with you and warm for winter camping... there is no room left for you, lol.

OneClick
12-11-2017, 10:16
I still like the hammock pouch. In this case, the attached stuff sack on my Grand Trunk. Just tuck that inside the UQ and everything stays warm (outside in the photo below).

I keep my phone, headlamp, contacts, contact solution and lighter in there.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/vf98yjsqp1myfr0/GT_hammock.jpg

Billy Goat
12-11-2017, 13:28
Because my hammock changes on a whim.... lol my uq doesn't lol..... and i cant sew. And if a cottage vendors is willing to give it a try or charge an extra 10 or 15 for a pocket why not. I keep hearing "just do this instead" like its a horrible idea to suggest a pocket on a quilt. When we should be like heck yah give it a try see how it works....The general consensus here appears to be that many feel it would be a a less than ideal situation that could compromise the integrity of your equipment. George thinks it's not a structurally good idea and as far as I am concerned, he's as expert on the subject as any. If he doesn't want to do it because it could come back that it leaks at that point, I say that's fine. It doesn't seem that anyone is trying to poop all over your dreams, they're just offering their (evidently) contrary opinion. Many of the naysayers are also not just some clown on the Internet that disagrees with you. They're mostly (if not all) senior members and highly experienced hammockers with thousands of dollars tied up in multiple iterations of similar equipment with different options based on the evolution of hammocking in all seasons. They have seen a lot, done a lot and seen successes and failures. Their input is valuable.

Personally, I like to leave electronics in the car. My map and compass don't care what the temp is. Facebook don't belong in the woods.

But if it makes you feel better, by all means... Heck yeah! Turn you quilts into a tactical vest and put a bunch of MOLLE straps on it and load it up with pockets. Let us know how it turns out!

TxAggie
12-11-2017, 15:54
But if it makes you feel better, by all means... Heck yeah! Turn you quilts into a tactical vest and put a bunch of MOLLE straps on it and load it up with pockets. Let us know how it turns out!

Now youíre talking my language! :)


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2Questions
12-11-2017, 21:51
Another idea for equipment storage in winter....I use a Ribzwear pack.Its not uncomfortable in the hammock and has plenty of pockets for phone, fuel bottle, batteries, and stuff you don't want to freeze. I also store the first aid kit, toilet paper, headlamp, and occasionally the Ruger. The Ribzpack easily fits under the backpack and I never take it off while at camp.
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georgecarr
12-11-2017, 22:25
What some here are aware of, and certainly some are not, is that we did sew a pouch in the foot box area and called it our locknload option, after a member here who came to us with it a few years ago. It was designed as a pocket to place a hand warmer to pre-warm your quilt. The time to stop and sew in a reinforced pocket meant that we needed to get $35 (which isn't enough IMHO). In addition, while we had no leaks, it was my opinion that at some point it was inevitable. Sooner or later someone will inadvertently catch the pocket on something or otherwise stress the seams, or the surrounding fabric. In addition, the amount of reinforcement we did to make me happy was okay in the foot box where you basically didn't contact it, but would make the quilt stiff if we placed anywhere along the torso. I don't blindly say no to customer requests. In fact the opposite is true - I like to try new ideas. I've already been down this road. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

TxAggie
12-11-2017, 22:44
What some here are aware of, and certainly some are not, is that we did sew a pouch in the foot box area and called it our locknload option, after a member here who came to us with it a few years ago. It was designed as a pocket to place a hand warmer to pre-warm your quilt. The time to stop and sew in a reinforced pocket meant that we needed to get $35 (which isn't enough IMHO). In addition, while we had no leaks, it was my opinion that at some point it was inevitable. Sooner or later someone will inadvertently catch the pocket on something or otherwise stress the seams, or the surrounding fabric. In addition, the amount of reinforcement we did to make me happy was okay in the foot box where you basically didn't contact it, but would make the quilt stiff if we placed anywhere along the torso. I don't blindly say no to customer requests. In fact the opposite is true - I like to try new ideas. I've already been down this road. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Great input, George. A request came in, you tried it, and it didnít work as well as hoped. Part of moving forward inevitably means a step or two back.

Billy Goat
12-14-2017, 19:21
What some here are aware of, and certainly some are not, is that we did sew a pouch in the foot box area and called it our locknload option, after a member here who came to us with it a few years ago. It was designed as a pocket to place a hand warmer to pre-warm your quilt. The time to stop and sew in a reinforced pocket meant that we needed to get $35 (which isn't enough IMHO). In addition, while we had no leaks, it was my opinion that at some point it was inevitable. Sooner or later someone will inadvertently catch the pocket on something or otherwise stress the seams, or the surrounding fabric. In addition, the amount of reinforcement we did to make me happy was okay in the foot box where you basically didn't contact it, but would make the quilt stiff if we placed anywhere along the torso. I don't blindly say no to customer requests. In fact the opposite is true - I like to try new ideas. I've already been down this road. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.Drat. So does that mean that it was a problem and it's not offered anymore because it was a problem? I'm at a point in my sewing skills that I would like to try my hand at a few quilts and a handwarmer pocket in the foot box was definitely a strong consideration, if not an outright plan for the colder weather quilt... my feet are the only thing that seems to ever get cold when I'm sleeping, at least in my hammock.

Cheers,
The Goat

goobie
12-14-2017, 19:51
A 'joey pouch' is about the only functional application that makes much sense, though the footbox idea isn't a bad one either.

Sleeping bags have had this feature but the construction of them better supports the idea. And the idea was to keep batteries (or you headlamp really) close by in a warm spot.

With a quilt- anywhere on the upper 2/3rds of a Top quilt isn't that practical because what works for one doesn't work for all. A typical smartphone is up around half a pound with a case. Sewn to a 24-32 ounce winter quilt really throws the quilt off. So you'd find it sliding off you unless you located a perfect spot for you... which isn't the perfect spot for me, or the next person.

Footbox... similar problem but maybe not quite as bad. Where exactly do you sew the brick in there so that it doesn't end up under you, or resting on you? And then a spot that works for most won't work for all. If you roll over in the quilt... will the footbox still follow you or will the brick resist rolling over and twist up the quilt... compressing your insulation?

A joey pouch (think kangaroo) on the inside at roughly crotch location is not a bad location. Years ago TNF and one or two other vendors had something like that for sleeping bags because you could reach the pouch easily at that spot.
And for the vendors and DIY folks following along- you attach the pouch baffle seam to baffle seam so it's in a slightly more reinforced location besides simply sewing it on.

All that said... nice for batteries or a one ounce headlamp... tougher for today's pile of electronics. No matter how perfectly built, it would likely interfere with the quilt performance or your comfort.

Not impossible- but not as cut and dry as you think either. Mainly because I could probably build one that worked for Katt, that didn't work for Goobie. You're both different heights, sizes, with different preferences and sleep positions. That's only two customers with a 50/50 chance of success.

A couple things others do that work:
I prefer wearing a button up shirt with a front pocket or vest with similar. The phone needs to be stored next to your body during the day to function, so for me that location fits my sleep position and my phone.

Lots of LD hikers go with the porn star- stuff it in a sock, stuff it in your undies.

I've seen plenty of scouts and bushcraft minded folks in the winter who do a fanny pack or similar pouch they wear slung across their chest at all times. Besides electronics- fire starters and other critical items are stored there. Part woodsman trick, part wilderness survival idea with that. Just an extra layer of caution to keep your nearest and dearest close just in case or for that 'walk away from camp' or turned around when you take a crap scenario. Point being- It tends to work well with clothing/pack/and when sleeping. You can wear it fanny pack style, or as a chest pack at bra strap height when sleeping if cross chest isn't comfortable.

The food cozy idea plus a hot hands or similiar works. The phone won't give off enough heat to warm itself. So the food cozy (or insulated pouch/jacket/vest) only works with a supplemental heat source.
This might be a nice idea (an oversized coozy) if you coupled it with a hot water bottle/bladder as both are items you want to keep thawed that you might not want in your bed.

Insulated pillow pouches or handwarmers. Think something like the ladies big fur handwarmer or even a buff. An insulated tube for your hands that you fill stuff into to become a pillow when you go to bed. You wrap your phone into that bundle.

Sweatshirt/Anarook kangaroo hand pouches are common as well. Right at your belly is a good spot overall and that's why that garment is coming back in popularity among bushcraft folks too... it's always on you and you can store a crap ton of of stuff without interfering with sleep or pack straps.

Remember (in theory) if you're out winter camping... you are out 24/7. So the solution you want should work all day- walking/camp/sleeping. An outer jacket pocket is a bust because it's too far away from you. Just outside your baselayer but within your insulation layers is the location you want.

If you're at Da Shack... and your phone is in your pocket or the cabin and only exposed at night then I would get why you might be extra focused on a night time solution... But to me that's only 1/3rd of the solution and finding a nice way to carry it close to you that doesn't interfere with your backpack or your sleeping position is the better solution. I think that others feel the same way which is why you don't see things built into the quilt.

We used to joke about that as kids in scouts... by the time you put your stove fuel, batteries, flashlight, water, pee bottle, damp socks, boot liners, tomorrows clothes and the ten other things you were supposed to keep with you and warm for winter camping... there is no room left for you, lol.

Great and, extremely thorough, explanation as usual. Thanks for all that info.

This idea was discussed at length at last falls Packer/bear hang. The brainstorming was pretty impressive! While we never came up with a good solution, a supplemental heat source was a common concern. Not being quilt manufacturers, we weren't aware of the issues brought up in this thread. Enlightening to hear from those that make our gear, but the people commenting about cold weather from down South always makes me chuckle:lol::lol:

Sounds like the handwarmer I use hunting might be the easiest solution....

georgecarr
12-14-2017, 20:16
Drat. So does that mean that it was a problem and it's not offered anymore because it was a problem? I'm at a point in my sewing skills that I would like to try my hand at a few quilts and a handwarmer pocket in the foot box was definitely a strong consideration, if not an outright plan for the colder weather quilt... my feet are the only thing that seems to ever get cold when I'm sleeping, at least in my hammock.

Cheers,
The Goat

Wasn't a problem. Just wanted to not have problems.

fallkniven
12-14-2017, 20:16
Can't you just take the battery out and keep that warm? Don't need to keep the whole phone warm right? It's just the battery draining that your worried about. The battery is much smaller than the phone, much less obtrusive to sleep with.

scrope
12-15-2017, 15:26
I don't like to freeze electronics/batteries so my last hike (which I brought my laptop 2-in-1 and ebook reader and phone) I had a lot of stuff I wanted to protect when the temperature unexpectedly dropped below freezing.

My solution was to put my phone in my top pocket and put the rest in the footbox of my TQ. My TQ footbox is full size because I like the extra room and it was especially useful for storing extra stuff. I like to keep my phone handy through the night because I use it as a watch (and alarm). I was in a RR but didn't like the idea of putting the saddlebags in the BQ because I didn't want to interfere with the hang of it and also I wanted quick and easy access to them.

Even if I didn't have a pocket, I'd probably just put the phone next to me because I can't envision damaging it even if I roll over on it in the night.

I think we need a quilt line organizer we can run through the TQ to hold all our stuff ;)