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HydroRaven
11-19-2018, 05:15
Here gaging interest. We had a hang this summer which was (albeit unbearably hot) absolutely wonderful. And from one extreme, I want to jump into the other.

Date and location is up in the air, but hopefully a weekend in December/January and in the Kanto area.

This is obviously open to anyone, and everyone is welcome to join!


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Wesleypipesyo
11-19-2018, 06:37
Man, summer camping is the worst. You can't escape the heat and humidity. Fall and winter is the best time, in my own humble opinion.

HydroRaven
11-20-2018, 02:48
It was indeed quite warm/humid, but the people and beer made it quite enjoyable!


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alt.thomas
11-21-2018, 17:01
Hey there. I'll finally get some time to camp now that my kid's schedule has become less hectic. I've only been doing some day hikes.

Are you thinking just a hang or to get up to higher elevations? Let me know if the latter as I'm thinking of going back to Daibosatsurei sometime before Christmas and then someplace new the following month.

HydroRaven
11-22-2018, 03:20
Iím open to anything alt.thomas, and would welcome a hike/camping or a hang if thatís what people want to do.


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alt.thomas
11-24-2018, 22:23
Iím open to anything alt.thomas, and would welcome a hike/camping or a hang if thatís what people want to do.


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Crossing my fingers I'll get the weekend of December 8/9 to go out. Will let you know.

HydroRaven
11-25-2018, 20:30
Sure, let me know when you can.


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alt.thomas
11-28-2018, 05:16
Got permission for 8/9 or 15/16. Let me know if either will work, else Iíll go based on the weather.

HydroRaven
11-28-2018, 23:14
I have been told we are busy on the 8-9 and my mother is coming to visit on the 15-16, are you free any weekend in January instead?


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alt.thomas
11-29-2018, 04:28
I have been told we are busy on the 8-9 and my mother is coming to visit on the 15-16, are you free any weekend in January instead?


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I wonít know until a week before Christmas but will keep you posted.

HydroRaven
11-29-2018, 20:42
Perfect, I look forward to hearing from you.


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HydroRaven
01-04-2019, 02:49
Just checking, but would you be available on the weekend of 26/27 Jan?


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alt.thomas
01-05-2019, 02:03
Just checking, but would you be available on the weekend of 26/27 Jan?


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26/27 may be difficult but Iíll ask tonight. Iíll also see if our family schedule is open the weekend before and after it.

alt.thomas
01-05-2019, 19:16
Just checking, but would you be available on the weekend of 26/27 Jan?


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I got the ok from the wife for the 26th. Any place you have in mind?

cjlacz
01-07-2019, 02:12
I don't hang yet, but I'd like to see what people have setup. If you don't mind a ground sleeper and depending on the temperature I'd be interested in joining. The 26th should work for me.

HydroRaven
01-07-2019, 03:29
Iím open to any suggestions, and of course sleeping on the ground doesnít exclude you from this trip :)


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alt.thomas
01-07-2019, 05:17
Sounds good and more is always the merrier.

I'm still not fully recovered from my coughing after getting hit with the flu last month. I was hoping to stay below 2000 meter.

There's a place I wanted to go to near Mt. Daibosatsurei called Mt. Gangaharasuri.

https://ridgelineimages.com/hiking/mt-gangaharasuri/

It's the place where they took Fuji from the old 500 yen note. The only worry is carrying the water needed (5-6 liters).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/309132adafba6d87a97d4eedabf9a912.jpg

I'll look for a plan b later in the week.

HydroRaven
01-07-2019, 20:12
That looks great, Iím down for it. Guess Iíll have to stop by 7-11 to get a few bottles of water beforehand.


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alt.thomas
01-08-2019, 20:07
Plan A (Gangaharasuri): Just read a recent trail report that said the nearby water source is frozen and I donít particularly want to lug 5l of water on a train and then bus... perhaps a future plan in the spring or after a heavy dump of snow (crossing fingers)?

Plan B (Kuratake): Also in Yamanashi but more convenient to travel than A. The site is nearby a stream but no views until the next day when climbing up to Mt. Kuratake (981m) and ridge walking most of the day (no water source on the ridge). Itís an area active with black bears but we should be ok if we take necessary precautions.

Plan C (Kumotori): Okutama and the highest peak in Tokyo. Easy travel to trail head, popular with reliable water sources. Established campsite (1750m) which will unfortunately close for good at the end of March this year.

Question: Have you guys experienced Cold weather camping before? And would you want to tackle 2000m+ mountain like Kumotori or Daibosatsurei in the winter?

Iím personally happy with B and will definitely plan a trip to Kumotori before the little lodge closes it door.

HydroRaven
01-09-2019, 03:34
Hello alt.thomas,

Yeah, sounds like B is the better option here. Perhaps once that water source opens up, we could do A. We just need to be careful about the bears. Is there anything in particular you recommend for that?

Also, Kuratake is close to where we went camping in the summer, isnít it? It would be our first time winter camping in hammocks, but we have underquilts and top quilts rated for -10C, which I believe should be enough.


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alt.thomas
01-09-2019, 04:16
Yup, itís around the same place but different station. The hike in is really simple and short and I was wondering if that was ok? Can start late (also a 7-11 nearby). The next day will be really hiking.

Here is the place i was thinking we can camp - photo was taken April of last year...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/20f376d21417a3ba2dcfe6b48be148da.jpg



Thereís flat areas for tent and plenty of trees to hang.

Water source which should still be flowing, else walk back 30 min and pull water from a pond.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/511fae309d23a0101e36a2db8b3b6d91.jpg

Re bears: Iíll bring a bear line and we can hook up our bags. Another point is to have our meals away from where we sleep. Nothing major to worry about.

alt.thomas
01-09-2019, 06:26
Plan C (Kumotori): Okutama and the highest peak in Tokyo. Easy travel to trail head, popular with reliable water sources. Established campsite (1750m) which will unfortunately close for good at the end of March this year.


: Do you have any free time in March for possible trip up Kumotori? The little lodge there will be closing for good and I was planning to go there before they shutdown.

http://kumotorisansou.com/koya.htm

HydroRaven
01-10-2019, 02:54
So where and when should we meet?


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alt.thomas
01-10-2019, 06:07
So where and when should we meet?


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I'll setup a separate planning page by this weekend with all the logistics. I think we can meetup at noon, have bento by the pond and then head into the forest and have plenty of time to setup and talk shop.

alt.thomas
01-11-2019, 06:27
I'll setup a separate planning page by this weekend with all the logistics. I think we can meetup at noon, have bento by the pond and then head into the forest and have plenty of time to setup and talk shop.

The trip details for the 26th are posted here.

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/151621-Japan-Winter-Camp-amp-amp-Hike-(Jan-26-27)-JR-Torisawa-amp-gt-Mt-Kurtake-amp-gt-JR-Uenohara