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I have not purchased a big piece of gear in several years. I pulled the trigger on a custom 20 degree Serrano with a few bells and whistles. It is my first loco libre quilt. Haven’t been this excited in quite some time. Anyone else waiting on new gear?
Heres mine. I chose the colors because it reminds me of molten lava coming out of volcanos and hardening on top as it cools and moves.
Size: 75" - WIDE width 800 fill power duck down
Outer Shell Color: Black Argon 90
Inner Shell Color: Burnt Orange Argon 90
Outer Stitching Color: Orange
Inner Stitching Color: Match Inner Fabric Color
Neck Draft Collar: Yes Please!
Taper: 10" Full Taper
Foot Box Style: Insulated "Hot Box" Foot Box
Extra Down: 2 ounces 800 duck down
Dee Ring Pad Attachment: Yes Please, I Sleep On A Pad
georgecarr
11-10-2019, 13:29
https://youtu.be/uMyCa35_mOg
Medicpathetic
11-10-2019, 13:31
Yep, me too. I am anxiously awaiting the delivery of a Loco Libre UQ. 0-degree jungle pepper. 900 goose down with 3oz of extra 900 goose down. I think that should keep me pretty warm :)
Hey Lamboy, when did you order yours? Mine was ordered on Oct 28th I think. If you ordered yours first can I have your spot in line? Haha...
Yep, me too. I am anxiously awaiting the delivery of a Loco Libre UQ. 0-degree jungle pepper. 900 goose down with 3oz of extra 900 goose down. I think that should keep me pretty warm :)
Hey Lamboy, when did you order yours? Mine was ordered on Oct 28th I think. If you ordered yours first can I have your spot in line? Haha...
It was. Sure if you pay for mine :lol:
https://youtu.be/uMyCa35_mOg
You got that right
ATGIRL2028
11-10-2019, 15:17
I just ordered a ghostpepper 0 degree TQ w/ 2 extra oz. of 800 fill. This is my first major purchase. I'm on the road to building a rig. This weekend I plan to order the Warbonnet Yeti 0 degree UQ with extra down if I can. I'm actually having to donate plasma to afford all of this! Lol! I still have to get a pack, a tarp, a Darien and a Chameleon! This stuff is addicting! I love it!
poor_jalopy
11-10-2019, 20:16
I just ordered material for an underquilt repair, a new underquilt, and a hammock from ripstopbytheroll, and yes. The wait will kill me. I'm pretty sure that the shorter the wait, the shorter your patience level.
El Gordo
11-14-2019, 12:58
Hey Lamboy, when did you order yours? Mine was ordered on Oct 28th I think. If you ordered yours first can I have your spot in line? Haha...
Sorry, but ya'll gotta wait for me to get my 0-degree Habanero ordered back on Oct. 2nd! But, I don't mind waiting for such a fabulous quilt..... much. :laugh:
Sorry, but ya'll gotta wait for me to get my 0-degree Habanero ordered back on Oct. 2nd! But, I don't mind waiting for such a fabulous quilt..... much. :laugh:
Too true. I really wish more people posted pics of their quilts. It is nice to see the variety out there. Surely mine will be out the door in the next two weeks.
cmc4free
11-14-2019, 15:15
Too true. I really wish more people posted pics of their quilts. It is nice to see the variety out there. Surely mine will be out the door in the next two weeks.
I have 3 LLG quilts, but this is the only one I have pics of. The other 2 are a 50° set from the Operator series.
-20° Carolina Reaper: 900FP +3oz, Black Argon 90 outer with orange stitching, Burnt Orange Argon 67 inner with black stitching, orange grosgrain trim. It's a hefty quilt, to be sure. Almost time to bring it out for the season!
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carolina_reaper_minus_20_2.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carlonia_reaper_minus_20_3.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carolina_reaper_minus_20_4.jpg
ATGIRL2028
11-14-2019, 18:22
I have 3 LLG quilts, but this is the only one I have pics of. The other 2 are a 50° set from the Operator series.
-20° Carolina Reaper: 900FP +3oz, Black Argon 90 outer with orange stitching, Burnt Orange Argon 67 inner with black stitching, orange grosgrain trim. It's a hefty quilt, to be sure. Almost time to bring it out for the season!
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carolina_reaper_minus_20_2.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carlonia_reaper_minus_20_3.jpg
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carolina_reaper_minus_20_4.jpg
That's a beauty! I'm ordering my underquilt tomorrow while I wait for the topquilt. I'll get a 900 fill with 2 extra oz. of fill in a 0 degree bag. Will the extra ounces bring it to below zero I assume? Maybe -10?
soul embrace
11-14-2019, 18:35
That's a beauty! I'm ordering my underquilt tomorrow while I wait for the topquilt. I'll get a 900 fill with 2 extra oz. of fill in a 0 degree bag. Will the extra ounces bring it to below zero I assume? Maybe -10?
I think I remember reading that each ounce of down equals about 5 degrees extra so if that's true then a 0 degree with an extra 2 ounce should be around -10 degree
cmc4free
11-14-2019, 18:50
That's a beauty! I'm ordering my underquilt tomorrow while I wait for the topquilt. I'll get a 900 fill with 2 extra oz. of fill in a 0 degree bag. Will the extra ounces bring it to below zero I assume? Maybe -10?
I personally don't think so. The temp rating is mostly a function of the loft (thickness) of the quilt, which is determined by the fabric shells and the mesh baffles that form the tubes the down is stuffed into. When more down is added, the quilt shell still has the same baffles, so the extra fill doesn't change the loft height - assuming the standard amount of fill is adequate to fully loft the baffles in the first place. The cottage vendors here are generally all known for being generous with the down, even without overstuff.
What adding extra down will do is make the quilt more resilient to a couple of the factors that can reduce loft in less than ideal conditions, i.e. real-world conditions. One of those factors is down migration, where the down shifts inside the baffle tubes, resulting in heavier concentration of down in some areas leaving other areas with lesser fill (reducing loft in those spots). Another is reduced loft overall due to the quilt taking on moisture over the course of a multi day trip or prolonged exposure to body oils, for example. Having more down in the quilt provides a greater buffer against these factors.
So IMHO, adding overstuff is not about making the quilt a lower temp rating; it's more like insurance to preserve the rating that the quilt had in the first place, which is based on the cut of its fabric determining the height of its baffles.
georgecarr
11-14-2019, 19:20
I personally don't think so. The temp rating is mostly a function of the loft (thickness) of the quilt, which is determined by the fabric shells and the mesh baffles that form the tubes the down is stuffed into. When more down is added, the quilt shell still has the same baffles, so the extra fill doesn't change the loft height - assuming the standard amount of fill is adequate to fully loft the baffles in the first place. The cottage vendors here are generally all known for being generous with the down, even without overstuff.
What adding extra down will do is make the quilt more resilient to a couple of the factors that can reduce loft in less than ideal conditions, i.e. real-world conditions. One of those factors is down migration, where the down shifts inside the baffle tubes, resulting in heavier concentration of down in some areas leaving other areas with lesser fill (reducing loft in those spots). Another is reduced loft overall due to the quilt taking on moisture over the course of a multi day trip or prolonged exposure to body oils, for example. Having more down in the quilt provides a greater buffer against these factors.
So IMHO, adding overstuff is not about making the quilt a lower temp rating; it's more like insurance to preserve the rating that the quilt had in the first place, which is based on the cut of its fabric determining the height of its baffles.
What he said
I got the extra down for those above reasons myself not for extra temp really. In addition i stack quilts in deep winter so i wanted a little more resistance against compression because my over quilt is not oversized. I end up in bad weather more often than I like to admit. Lets just say I made it rain in the Grand Canyon the one day we hiked....
If i was given an obvious trail name it would likely be rain man or something to do with rain. I cant remember the last trip i was on that rain wasnt involved.
ParaJosh
11-16-2019, 18:37
I'm going to be ordering a ridge reaper in the next week or two. I'm hoping there will be a black Friday sale. Not that I want to short change em just that it will leave me more savings towards a top quilt from them. Looks like fantastic gear!
Stumblebum66
12-08-2019, 11:02
Medicpathetic, I ordered a Carolina Reaper on October 28th as well. We should be getting close.
Medicpathetic
12-08-2019, 11:07
Medicpathetic, I ordered a Carolina Reaper on October 28th as well. We should be getting close.
Yep. About another week or so for mine.
She came in today. It is awesome and such fine work! Stitches are so straight and consistent. The overall quality is awesome. It will fit perfectly as part of my cold weather system and deep winter layered quilt setup.
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Medicpathetic
12-10-2019, 06:57
Medicpathetic, I ordered a Carolina Reaper on October 28th as well. We should be getting close.
Hahaha.. I just noticed your profile pic. I LOVE IT!
cmc4free
12-10-2019, 08:05
She came in today. It is awesome and such fine work! Stitches are so straight and consistent. The overall quality is awesome. It will fit perfectly as part of my cold weather system and deep winter layered quilt setup.
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Looks great! I like the colors choices. Enjoy!
btw, what synthetic quilt is that? E.E.?
Yes that is an E.E. Revelation (formally synthetic prodigy 40F). I sent George some of the clips that EE uses instead of the D rings for his quilt so that I could mate both quilts with the EE layer straps I like. Another reason I went with Loco Libre.
cmc4free
12-10-2019, 12:03
Yes that is an E.E. Revelation (formally synthetic prodigy 40F). I sent George some of the clips that EE uses instead of the D rings for his quilt so that I could mate both quilts with the EE layer straps I like. Another reason I went with Loco Libre.
Smart! That EE pad attachment system is really nice, too. It's great that George could accommodate you on that request.
mooseprime
12-13-2019, 21:42
Yup, still waiting for my order from Oct 22. While it's not necessarily difficult to wait for something, it sure seems...hard.
10° Jungle Pepper Underquilt for the Clark Hammock
Model: NX-270,
Size: 80" - 800 fill power Downtek Duck Down
Outer Color: Fallen Leaves 15D
Inner Color: Burnt Orange Argon 90
Outer Stitching Color: Orange
Inner Stitching Color: Orange
Extra down: 2 ounces 800 fill power Downtek duck down
georgecarr
12-13-2019, 21:48
Yup, still waiting for my order from Oct 22. While it's not necessarily difficult to wait for something, it sure seems...hard.
10° Jungle Pepper Underquilt for the Clark Hammock
Model: NX-270,
Size: 80" - 800 fill power Downtek Duck Down
Outer Color: Fallen Leaves 15D
Inner Color: Burnt Orange Argon 90
Outer Stitching Color: Orange
Inner Stitching Color: Orange
Extra down: 2 ounces 800 fill power Downtek duck down
Yours is heading out tomorrow morning. Unfortunately fedex screwed up my last down delivery and the 800 took 2 1/2 weeks to get here:scared:. It's frustrating to watch your order get rescheduled every day, and it moves further away each time. After 6 days in north jersey I placed a very nice, polite phone call:rolleyes:, and viola, it came the next day.
For anyone concerned, we fell behind the beginning of the month due to illness, but we are only 6 quilts off from being back on our 6 week lead time.
Quality is worth waiting for :)
ParaJosh
12-21-2019, 19:26
Just pulled the trigger on a TQ and UQ from LLG about 15 minutes ago. 7 Week lead time. Was 6 the other day but I'm a procrastinator lol! Going to be worth it come some time in February. I got a Ridge Reaper 0 degree UQ in a Forest green with black inside, a 0 degree Ghost Pepper TQ in forest green outside and black inside. Sewn foot box. All max over stuffed with the goose down. So excited!
TexasRain
02-17-2020, 12:13
I just submitted my order for a 10 degree Carolina Reaper UQ and a 20 degree Ghost Pepper TQ. I talked to George [the owner] and he was fantastic. He answered all of my questions and made sure I knew everything about what I was buying. I'm really excited about getting to use them.
...and now I wait.
When I get them in, I'll post a review after using it.
Dvankirk
02-17-2020, 12:21
I just submitted my order for a 10 degree Carolina Reaper UQ and a 20 degree Ghost Pepper TQ. I talked to George [the owner] and he was fantastic. He answered all of my questions and made sure I knew everything about what I was buying. I'm really excited about getting to use them.
...and now I wait.
When I get them in, I'll post a review after using it.
It's tough, but they are worth the wait. I love my Carolina Reaper and my other quilts from George.
mooseprime
09-24-2020, 21:11
Yours is heading out tomorrow morning. Unfortunately fedex screwed up my last down delivery and the 800 took 2 1/2 weeks to get here:scared:. It's frustrating to watch your order get rescheduled every day, and it moves further away each time. After 6 days in north jersey I placed a very nice, polite phone call:rolleyes:, and viola, it came the next day.
For anyone concerned, we fell behind the beginning of the month due to illness, but we are only 6 quilts off from being back on our 6 week lead time.
regardless of the comfort issues I have with my Clark, this UQ kept me warmer than ever before. Definitely happy with it.
UQ's are amazing though, love em they keep you so toasty if hung right feels like an extra layer in your cacoon of warmth :D
sideshowraheem
01-28-2021, 15:43
Well no one answered my pack size question so I bit the bullet and bought a new 0F Habanero and now just have to wait.... Hope it comes in time for a Boundary Waters trip in early May. Cutting it close but hoping for the best.
I ordered an underquilt November 30 ... hoping for the best here too :)
Business must be good at Loco Libre! :)
sideshowraheem
02-03-2021, 09:33
You'll get yours first than Rodxx! Let us know how you like it.
Cant wait for mine. Hoping by that time I get a permanent hammock stand setup in my backyard so I cant test it out right away.
Rex Clifton
02-03-2021, 19:18
The key is to stretch out your purchases so something is always just about to arrive.
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sideshowraheem
05-20-2021, 14:33
I'm coming up on 16 weeks for my quilt, and when I go to check the order status it still says "Awaiting Processing". Does anyone know if that changes once it starts getting worked on? I'm not in a big rush, its a winter UQ, I just want to make sure theres not some hang up or something I need to email them about.
Canadark
05-20-2021, 16:14
The status will change to "In Production" or something like that, from what I remember with my last order from George.
Yes, we got an email about the change in production status from 'awaiting processing' to 'in production'. Didn't take long to ship after that.
Bought a 0d Ridge Reaper underquilt for my son (he's a cold sleeper). The quilt is great, very lofty, excellent craftsmanship. My son loves it, says it is very warm and toasty!! :)
sideshowraheem
09-27-2021, 18:04
The key is to stretch out your purchases so something is always just about to arrive.
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I learned my lesson after the UQ I ordered. Took a look at it, hung in it once (0 degree with overstuff in the summer, it was a bad idea) and ordered a 0F TQ to match! Should get here in December sometime so I can put it through its paces this winter.
sideshowraheem
11-19-2021, 21:43
Well apparently I love anticipating new quilts. Decided that since my only 20F UQ was synthetic I ought to upgrade to down.
Now I get to look forward to a TQ in Decemberish and this new Carolina Reaper in April or so. Cant wait to get them and hang and camp!
cmoulder
11-20-2021, 07:29
Got my Timmermade quilt in the mail yesterday.
Ordered on Aug 6 with queue of 14 weeks, so it was right at 13 weeks, 6 days. :laugh:
Quilt looks fantastic, although with 50deg rating I won't get to use it until next spring. But just assessing the loft it appears it will work for me down to 40deg or maybe a bit lower... even though the baffles are sewn-thru, zero gaps in the down, unlike my old EE Rev 50deg that's getting a little long in the tooth. But that one does need a wash after 10 years. :rolleyes:
sideshowraheem
02-22-2022, 13:53
My 0 degree Ghost Pepper top quilt just arrived in the mail today. Got a chance to hang in it over my lunch break and its an incredible piece of work. Well worth the wait!
George glad you're on the mend and are able to work again. Cant wait to take this quilt out on a winter trip before the end of the year.
Stabbastion
02-24-2022, 21:08
George does Beautiful work. The hand sewn chevrons are hard and time consuming to do but so worth it in the end. Pics would be nice.... always love to see LL Gear.
Mescript
03-01-2022, 16:36
My 0 degree Ghost Pepper top quilt just arrived in the mail today. Got a chance to hang in it over my lunch break and its an incredible piece of work. Well worth the wait!
George glad you're on the mend and are able to work again. Cant wait to take this quilt out on a winter trip before the end of the year.
When did you order yours? I have two ridge runner UQ on order that I went back and forth on forever. I've always heard great things so really excited to see the end product.
sideshowraheem
03-01-2022, 20:19
When did you order yours? I have two ridge runner UQ on order that I went back and forth on forever. I've always heard great things so really excited to see the end product.
Looks like I ordered it 8/14/21. Well worth the wait in my opinion. I've tried quilts from just about everyone out there and my favorites are split between this Loco Libre Ghost Pepper and the Warbonnet Diamondback. His UQ I have is by far the best I have as well.
Pennsy Camp and Canoe
03-02-2022, 03:41
I'm actually waiting a HG Econ Burrow! My 1st real TQ! It'll go great with my LLG Cayenne Pepper 20° UQ, I love that thing!
Mescript
04-11-2022, 22:40
Ordered 11/19, shipped today if folks are curious about the estimated time frame. Can't wait til wednesday!
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sideshowraheem
04-14-2022, 11:48
Eventually I'll have to post some photos of my new LL quilts but they're in boxes now (unstuffed!) in preparation for a move. Two beautiful underquilts, one winter and another 3 season and a less flashy but still great 0F topquilt.
sideshowraheem
05-22-2022, 20:19
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Not a great one of my new 20F but the only one I had before it got packed away in a box for a move. Carolina Reaper with an ounce of overstuff. Havent really put it through its paces yet but was nice and toasty on the few cold spring days I tried it in.
Mescript
05-23-2022, 19:15
Definately well worth the wait. I went with a 30F and an ounce of overstuff. Would order from again.