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mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 11:29
Hi everyone....... I was considering purchasing Tom Hennesey's $129 Oversize Hex Tarp and wondered if anybody has used one? The stock is just too small as I tire of not being able to "hang" out in rain with it..... Having to stay in the hammock during a down pour is not really my idea of enjoying the moment.......... Thanks in advance for any comment(s) related to this matter.....:)

Arkwater
08-28-2007, 13:53
Do some research. I think you can get a better/lighter tarp for the same/less money. I'm not knocking tom's stuff, its good. Just better deals to be had. If you sew, you could make one for half the cost.

headchange4u
08-28-2007, 14:00
For $130.00 I would go with a MacCat tarp. You can get the Deluxe for $115.00 and it's a great tarp. You can also get a Gear Guide tarp from Sportman's Guide for $30-40 and it also works really well.

angrysparrow
08-28-2007, 14:09
I agree with HC4U, a MacCat (http://www.outdoorequipmentsupplier.com/maccattarps.htm) is a much better tarp for the money. Since Brian is back from camp and making/shipping tarps, you should be able to get one fairly quickly.

mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 15:16
I agree with HC4U, a MacCat (http://www.outdoorequipmentsupplier.com/maccattarps.htm) is a much better tarp for the money. Since Brian is back from camp and making/shipping tarps, you should be able to get one fairly quickly. Yeah, that was my first option. But I've tried getting a return email from Brian for over a year, to no avail............ The asym you have is from Brian, and I tried contacting him twice within weeks after receiving that one to see if I could get a MacCat Deluxe in trade for that, minus of course any fee he saw fit. He never so much as responded. I have tried at least 3 other times since just to put in a order request, even offering to immediately pay and wait for tarp, but never got a reply. I signed up for the newsletter and got a computer generated reply saying he was stocked and in business. Filled out the order form within minutes of receiving notice, but now 3 or 4 days later, no reply. I know he is very busy, and that EVERYBODY wants one, but I just don't want to continue to beg. I'm sure Brian is a nice, cool guy, but I almost started to take it personal, like he didn't want to bother with me after I merely asked if he would consider taking back the completely unused tarp and give me any kind of even partial credit. I even told him I would send it and let him judge whether it had ever been used. Anyway, I'm pretty sure its just a thing where he is swamped and must know alot of people on a first name basis that want one as bad as I. Like I said, at this point I just want a light weight, but big and full coverage tarp to replace the stock one. Tom's is about the same size as a few others I have seen for cheaper, but the weight on most of the one's I have found make them unrealistic. After doing Springer to Damascus earlier this year, I reaffirmed to myself that, while not absolutely the only consideration, weight DOES matter when you are doing any hiking, especially a long distance one.............:)

headchange4u
08-28-2007, 15:24
Yeah, that was my first option. But I've tried getting a return email from Brian for over a year, to no avail............ The asym you have is from Brian, and I tried contacting him twice within weeks after receiving that one to see if I could get a MacCat Deluxe in trade for that, minus of course any fee he saw fit. He never so much as responded. I have tried at least 3 other times since just to put in a order request, even offering to immediately pay and wait for tarp, but never got a reply. I signed up for the newsletter and got a computer generated reply saying he was stocked and in business. Filled out the order form within minutes of receiving notice, but now 3 or 4 days later, no reply. I know he is very busy, and that EVERYBODY wants one, but I just don't want to continue to beg. I'm sure Brian is a nice, cool guy, but I almost started to take it personal, like he didn't want to bother with me after I merely asked if he would consider taking back the completely unused tarp and give me any kind of even partial credit. I even told him I would send it and let him judge whether it had ever been used. Anyway, I'm pretty sure its just a thing where he is swamped and must know alot of people on a first name basis that want one as bad as I. Like I said, at this point I just want a light weight, but big and full coverage tarp to replace the stock one. Tom's is about the same size as a few others I have seen for cheaper, but the weight on most of the one's I have found make them unrealistic. After doing Springer to Damascus earlier this year, I reaffirmed to myself that, while not absolutely the only consideration, weight DOES matter when you are doing any hiking, especially a long distance one.............:)


Asym tarp from Brian? Was that the one he had a limited quantity of on Ebay? If it's the one I am thinking about, and you wanna get rid of it, I may be interested.

I have heard complaints about OES responding to emails before. I know Brian hikes a lot and was busy with school. I'm sure he has a lot of stuff going on and a high demand for his product. I know that won't make you feel any better about not getting responses, but I'm sure it's nothing personal.

mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 16:00
Asym tarp from Brian? Was that the one he had a limited quantity of on Ebay? If it's the one I am thinking about, and you wanna get rid of it, I may be interested.

I have heard complaints about OES responding to emails before. I know Brian hikes a lot and was busy with school. I'm sure he has a lot of stuff going on and a high demand for his product. I know that won't make you feel any better about not getting responses, but I'm sure it's nothing personal.

Yeah, the Asym was one Brian put on Ebay, but sorry to say I sold it a few weeks ago to someone here....... I was VERY satisfied with the craftsmanship of it, but after pondering about it realized that it was just too close to the same size as the stock, and not what I was really after......... I really want one to expand my coverage considerably, and the MacCat Deluxe looks perfect......... But Tom's hex, although not the Cat cut, is actually a bit larger . It does weigh in at 19 oz or so, so is naturally heavier, but looks inviting all considered............

Your DIY BlackCat/ MacCat looks GREAT................ Wish I could sew............ Bought a heavy duty sewing machine with good intentions.................. 2 1/2 years ago......... And there it sits. Like the weight machine. And the Cross Country skier. And the Dehydrator........ And the JuiceMan.............

mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 17:37
All is well............. VERY well............ As irony would have it, Brian contacted me just a few moments ago with my invoice for my MacCat, which I immediately met with a Paypal payment to him................. I guess I got a little impatient after receiving word that he was up and selling again............... Talk about supply and demand.............. Reminds me of trying to get a generator after being hit with 3 hurricanes in Florida a couple of years ago............. Only so many to be had, and you had to line up in hopes of getting one................. Thanks to those here that responded to my question about Tom's fly. :)

Cannibal
08-28-2007, 17:55
Reminds me of trying to get a generator after being hit with 3 hurricanes in Florida a couple of years ago............. Only so many to be had, and you had to line up in hopes of getting one................. Thanks to those here that responded to my question about Tom's fly. :)

I got one shipped from Colorado to Vero Beach back then (Frances & Jeanne) and it was still cheaper with shipping than buying a new one here. Fun fun!

Don't forget Brian of OES is a member here. Maybe he saw your post and made it right.

angrysparrow
08-28-2007, 18:55
Don't forget Brian of OES is a member here. Maybe he saw your post and made it right.

I'll bet that's right. His profile (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/member.php?u=118) shows 'last activity' earlier this evening.

At least you're finally getting the tarp you want, mixinmaster!

Peter_pan
08-28-2007, 21:09
Probably the best summary of tarp info with great pictures (lots of actual overlay comparisions) is on JJ's site.... good comparision table.... find it here, http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCampingDry.html

Pan

mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 21:09
I'll bet that's right. His profile (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/member.php?u=118) shows 'last activity' earlier this evening.

At least you're finally getting the tarp you want, mixinmaster!

And I can't wait............ I think I'll sleep in my hammock in my backyard just for the heck of it when it arrives........... Now if I just can get my Potomac underquilt I will be SET!!!!!!! FOREVER !!!!!!!!! Oh, a Ray Way Quilt would be nice though........... Gotta learn to sew someday. Just too many things I .......... Need???????............. Nah, just WANT..... like a kid wants candy.......LOL...............:D

mixinmaster
08-28-2007, 21:21
Probably the best summary of tarp info with great pictures (lots of actual overlay comparisions) is on JJ's site.... good comparision table.... find it here, http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCampingDry.html

Pan
Great site, thanks a bunch................will bookmark it for sure.................

schrochem
09-04-2007, 11:11
Hi everyone....... I was considering purchasing Tom Hennesey's $129 Oversize Hex Tarp and wondered if anybody has used one? The stock is just too small as I tire of not being able to "hang" out in rain with it..... Having to stay in the hammock during a down pour is not really my idea of enjoying the moment.......... Thanks in advance for any comment(s) related to this matter.....:)

I had to go searching for this thread to make a comment.
If someone is concerned about the 19oz weight listed on the site, I think it should be noted that the weight probably includes the guylines.
I got the 70d hex free when I ordered a scout for my son months ago. It's a nice big tarp and they put these nice pockets in the corners to store the guylines.
So the weight might reflect those pockets (not sure if they have it on the 30Dsil) and the lines already attached.
So if you are interested in one of these tarps I'd ask so you know what the actual weight is.

slowhike
09-04-2007, 14:39
a friend of mine has one. i like it.
i liked the pockets on the corners so much i have put them on my tarp... & plan to put them on the next one too.

schrochem
09-04-2007, 16:10
a friend of mine has one. i like it.
i liked the pockets on the corners so much i have put them on my tarp... & plan to put them on the next one too.

Something else I was wondering about it color.
I have a MacCat from way back and it's gray.
Does he make them in any other colors.
I'd take the HH for color alone......

FreeTheWeasel
09-04-2007, 16:38
I also have the Hennesy hex tarp. I like it much more than the stock tarp, but it is heavy at 1.7 pounds. One of these days, I'd like to order the MacCat deluxe as well. Of course, Mixinmaster has already ordered the MacCat; therefore, my comments are mostly irrelevant.

FreeTheWeasel

slowhike
09-04-2007, 16:47
Something else I was wondering about it color.
I have a MacCat from way back and it's gray.
Does he make them in any other colors.
I'd take the HH for color alone......

i don't know if brian uses any other colors or not, but i like the color of the hh hex too.

angrysparrow
09-04-2007, 16:58
Something else I was wondering about it color.
I have a MacCat from way back and it's gray.
Does he make them in any other colors.
I'd take the HH for color alone......

I can't speak to whether he does so regularly or not, but I asked about it when I ordered and he made me a black MacCat. That was back in the spring, though.

schrochem
09-04-2007, 17:02
I also have the Hennesy hex tarp. I like it much more than the stock tarp, but it is heavy at 1.7 pounds. One of these days, I'd like to order the MacCat deluxe as well. Of course, Mixinmaster has already ordered the MacCat; therefore, my comments are mostly irrelevant.

FreeTheWeasel

yes but if you get the 30D silnylon it's only 19oz
BUT it costs twice as much :)

Like I said I have a MacCat deluxe (EDIT: ooops it's actually a standard!....sheesh two years ago...)

If you do the numbers the HH isn't a bad deal
The HH isn't a catcut but it's 144"X132" and weighs 19oz and comes in Brown (I think). Costs $130
The MacCat deluxe IS a catcut and is 130"X102" and weighs 13.8oz WITHOUT guylines and only comes in Gray (I think). Costs $115
The guyline kit is 6oz but that includes 8 stakes as well. costs $15
So they both sound pretty close to me. The HH is 14" longer and 30" wider and is a better color (IMO :D). The MacCat is probably a little lighter and has the Catcut but isn't all that great for stealth camping :cool:

schrochem
09-04-2007, 17:04
Something that would be cool would be to sew a triangle on the ends of one of these hex tarps like we were discussing on the Sportsmans guide tarps (except taking it off). Then you could have a 12'X12' tarp with only one stake per side :)

Quoddy
09-04-2007, 17:09
I finally decided to go with a hammock for some situations and decided to order a bit backward. I placed an order for a MacCat Deluxe yesterday (no response yet). When that is secure and enroute to me I'll order a HH Explorer Ultralite A-Sym. I've never had the opportunity to try out any of the major hammock brands but I decided as primarily a side sleeper that HH was the way to go. Hoping that the larger Deluxe was the way to go for size, too. A lot of hopeing that this all works out.

Why did I finally pull the trigger? On my recent thru hike of the Long Trail I was frustrated by the lack of locations to pitch my Contrail and wished that I'd had a hammock so that I could have stopped whenever I wished.

angrysparrow
09-04-2007, 17:30
...and only comes in Gray (I think).


Pics of my black MacCat:

1 (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1566&c=7) 2 (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1567&c=7)

Brian may not regularly make a variety of colors, but he will occasionally make a different colored one if you ask.

schrochem
09-04-2007, 20:25
Pics of my black MacCat:

1 (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1566&c=7) 2 (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1567&c=7)

Brian may not regularly make a variety of colors, but he will occasionally make a different colored one if you ask.

Thanks for posting that angrysparrow. It's nice to know there are other colors. I wish there was when I ordered mine two years ago.

Btw, for those interested here is what the hh hex corner pockets look like
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/5/6/8/bridgehammock_42.JPG

FanaticFringer
09-04-2007, 21:10
I finally decided to go with a hammock for some situations and decided to order a bit backward. I placed an order for a MacCat Deluxe yesterday (no response yet). When that is secure and enroute to me I'll order a HH Explorer Ultralite A-Sym. I've never had the opportunity to try out any of the major hammock brands but I decided as primarily a side sleeper that HH was the way to go. Hoping that the larger Deluxe was the way to go for size, too. A lot of hopeing that this all works out.

Why did I finally pull the trigger? On my recent thru hike of the Long Trail I was frustrated by the lack of locations to pitch my Contrail and wished that I'd had a hammock so that I could have stopped whenever I wished.

I think you'll be happy with that set-up Quoddy. I'm sure a number of folks here have bought a camping hammock before ever trying it out. I know I did.