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jons4real
08-04-2010, 13:05
Hey all, So more than once has it crossed my mind that the extra colored material running along the side of my ENO get in my way. I have thought of removing them but I'm not really sure how it would turn out. Really its 50/50. sometimes I rest my head on that material, so then its fine to have around. When I lay down to sleep it tend to make me feel like I'm in a cocoon. So yeah its 50/50.
I was wondering how well it worked out for anybody who's done it.:confused:
1)Would you still do it again?:confused:
2)Did it turn out neat and clean? "frayed ends":confused:
KerMegan
08-04-2010, 13:24
once you have your optimal set-up dialed in- (ridge cord, amount of sag, angle of offset) get somebody to mark the bits of fabric that are not in use/in your way; cut about 1 inch outside the marks and do a double rolled hem down to the marks. then let us know if you like the change.
or...you can do what Randy did and embrace the cocoon as a breeze and bug deterrent!
hope that helped, KM ( who uses the extra fabric as a sun block....)
Hawk-eye
08-04-2010, 13:28
Lordy no ... I'd never do that ... that width is what gives you the ability to get the near flat lay once you have your hang figured out. No way no how ...
I cut mine off my Double Nest. I found the material superfluous and after I got my WB Traveler I took the plunge since the Traveler is narrower than the DN would have been without the side material and I find the Traveler very comfortable. I have girth hitched the ends of my hammock so I was not worried about weakening the channels (I don't sew). All I did was cut the material off and use a lighter to melt the edges to prevent fraying. Yeah its not the prettiest but if done carefully enough its not too bad. Plus I am not worried about how it looks as long as it is comfortable. I am happy I did it since I always found that material flopping and getting in my way.
Ramblinrev
08-04-2010, 18:27
My home sleeper was a DIY based on the doublenest design. I really liked the side fabric and would never have sacrificed the width. It was really comfy. That extra width is wonderful.
coolkayaker1
08-05-2010, 11:32
Jons4real
There is a youtube video of the result of a guy that cut an ENO just as you decribe. Search ENO hammock and you will see it. It's sort of frayed, and I dno;t think I'd do it, but I wholeheartedly agree with you about the fabric flapping in my face and, other than using it for a oillow, it's a tad annoying. I think I won't cut mine, but can see whay you'd think about it. Please guinea-pig for us all, and cut it, and tell us what comes of it in a youtube vid, like that other guy.
Hawk-eye
08-05-2010, 12:37
Even a day after posting ... and I still wouldn't do it ;)
Running Feather
08-05-2010, 12:59
In the woods I like the fabric for all the above listed reasons.
In my TV room they make a perfect arm rest for holding the remote while surfing.
Even a day after posting ... and I still wouldn't do it ;)
And I'd do it again.:D ;)
....but having said that, after I got my WB traveler, my ENO became a loaner/spare that I didn't mind experimenting with. If it was my primary hammock I might feel a little different.
jons4real
08-05-2010, 15:33
Jons4real
There is a youtube video of the result of a guy that cut an ENO just as you decribe. Search ENO hammock and you will see it. It's sort of frayed, and I dno;t think I'd do it, but I wholeheartedly agree with you about the fabric flapping in my face and, other than using it for a oillow, it's a tad annoying. I think I won't cut mine, but can see whay you'd think about it. Please guinea-pig for us all, and cut it, and tell us what comes of it in a youtube vid, like that other guy.
lol, guineapig, ummmm no,lol. I'm pretty sure I saw the video your talking about. I really didnt like the way his looked. He kinda hacked as far as I'm concerned. I was thinking cutting it with pinking shears so it wont fray. Then I would add a fold or two and then add a hem to make it look better and stop the fray. I also was thinking that you could possible carterize the hem. I was thinking if I could heat up an exacto knife blade and slowly cut above the seam then possibly the hot blade would kind of melt the nylon- but I'm not really sure how good it would look or how effective it would be along with being a pain in the butt in holding my knife over a flame to keep it hot.
Ramblinrev
08-05-2010, 15:52
If you are going to remove the fabric I would advise you to undo the stitching on the seams joining the panels. That way you may save yourself a whole lot of trouble. I would not suggest cutting with pinking shears, especially if you are going to roll the hem. The hem will prevent fraying. But the center panel just might run salvage to salvage giving you finished edges with no addition trouble. Plus that way if you chose to reattach the panels for one reason or another it would be much easier to do.
jons4real
08-05-2010, 17:14
If you are going to remove the fabric I would advise you to undo the stitching on the seams joining the panels. That way you may save yourself a whole lot of trouble. I would not suggest cutting with pinking shears, especially if you are going to roll the hem. The hem will prevent fraying. But the center panel just might run salvage to salvage giving you finished edges with no addition trouble. Plus that way if you chose to reattach the panels for one reason or another it would be much easier to do.
lololololololol, you know.......... That just makes so much more sense now that you said it,lol. I hope I would of figured that out if I ever sat down and actually looked at it. I'm such a goober, yes the stich! just remove it!:lol:
Boris Losdindawoods
08-05-2010, 17:36
Aren't you just converting an ENO double into a single?
Boris
GrizzlyAdams
08-05-2010, 18:22
Aren't you just converting an ENO double into a single?
Boris
I've got an ENO double. It's a lounging hammock, used as often as a chair as it is a nap facilitating vehicle. For overnight stuff I use other hammocks. No scissors shall touch this ENO.
That said, I am imaging that what others would cut would leave the hammock asymmetric, trim the wall of fabric (asymmetrically) when you lay on a diagonal.
Others?
Aren't you just converting an ENO double into a single?
Boris
The extra material I cut off mine adds up to 15 inches so it ends up still being 10 inches wider than a single nest.
I find 65 inches to be just right for my comfort.
slowhike
08-05-2010, 20:00
I made a cut in the extra material on both sides of mine, about were the top of my shoulders would be, then added several velcro tabs so I could fold the long edges over me & secure them for added warmth.
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/5/PB300013_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=2122&c=member&imageuser=25)
I folded & hemmed the cuts but you might get away w/ cutting it w/ a hot knife, running a lighter along the cut, or putting liquid seam sealer along it if you don't have a sewing machine. But I personally wouldn't mess w/ the factory seam unless you know just what you're doing.
Boris Losdindawoods
08-06-2010, 08:54
I am imaging that what others would cut would leave the hammock asymmetric, trim the wall of fabric (asymmetrically) when you lay on a diagonal.
Ah-ha. Knew I was missing something.
Boris
Big Jim Mac
08-07-2010, 11:16
What about just rolling the extra and holding it with a clothes pin or one of those clips you hold stacks of paper with? Best of both worlds.
If there is no chance of rain, I flop the extra material and attach it to the other side with a couple of small clips (sort of like Slowhikes mod.) I find this gives me a bit of a tent like feel and staves off any morning dew. Thus I don't need a tarp on non-rainy days.
bmwrider
07-07-2013, 09:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PldwEaTaF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PldwEaTaF0)
If all you want is to keep the material out your face try this, although I would use shock cord rather than guy line so swing doesn't tear the hammock.
dkurfiss
07-07-2013, 09:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PldwEaTaF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PldwEaTaF0)
If all you want is to keep the material out your face try this, although I would use shock cord rather than guy line so swing doesn't tear the hammock.
Thanks for posting. I might just do the guy outs on my ENO double. Of course I am thinking to pull out to A-Sym to actually help with the lay. That feller was laying straight up and down which always makes my back and neck hurt.
Wolverine
07-07-2013, 14:52
Thanks for posting. I might just do the guy outs on my ENO double. Of course I am thinking to pull out to A-Sym to actually help with the lay. That feller was laying straight up and down which always makes my back and neck hurt.
I would rather perform a self lobotomy then do this. My off the shelf ENO Double Nest has served me well the last couple of years.
I'm a hammock lover
07-07-2013, 17:41
I don't know why in a flying pickle fart you would. But if I was going to do it so I don't have to re-sew it, I'd cut right outside the stiching.
Jonah,
darkbyrd
07-07-2013, 21:22
I thought about velcro or toggle-buttons to close myself in for a little extra warmth and wind protection, but then I made one for myself.