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oldgringo
09-06-2010, 19:56
When I got my Claytor, I immediately changed out the suspension to ring buckles, effectively making a gathered end hammock out of ...I don't know what to call it...certainly not gathered, hung on two lines v. one, and free to sort of adjust to the load.
Anyway, the question: has anyone played with this, and compared the hang of a stock Claytor and a modded one? I've had way too much time to think on this trip.;)
When I got my Claytor, I immediately changed out the suspension to ring buckles, effectively making a gathered end hammock out of ...I don't know what to call it...certainly not gathered, hung on two lines v. one, and free to sort of adjust to the load.
I hope to see a picture of this, if you've got one? :)
/Wild
oldgringo
09-06-2010, 20:20
I hope to see a picture of this, if you've got one? :)
/Wild
Look about halfway down this page...it will show you the chan link/cinch buckle on a channel end hammock.
http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/tutorials.htm
Edit: Here's the stock Claytor suspension. See how open it is? And if you don't half-hitch both lines together, it really opens up.
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html
Look about halfway down this page...it will show you the chan link/cinch buckle on a channel end hammock.
http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/tutorials.htm
Cool! You actually just answered a question I had in another thread. :D
I just added my all-in-one suspension to my Claytor an hour ago and was questioning how to attach the chain link - from the AHE link, I see that I actually did attach it correctly :cool:
Thanks!
/Wild
Edit: Here's the stock Claytor suspension. See how open it is? And if you don't half-hitch both lines together, it really opens up.
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html
Just saw your edit.
Yes with the stock suspension it certainly opens up - I saw it on my own JH too. After adding the All-In-One it's closed up nice and tight.
/Wild
hangnout
09-06-2010, 20:44
I would suggest not cinching the channel up like pictured. The channel needs to have room to self adjust. Cinching it up tight also affects how the sides of the hammock lay. When the ends have room to slide up the ropes it helps shape the hammock and the sides will not be as floppy. I have modded a couple Claytors and a Clark after experimenting I came to the conclusion that not cinching the ends worked better for me.
I would suggest not cinching the channel up like pictured. The channel needs to have room to self adjust. Cinching it up tight also affects how the sides of the hammock lay. When the ends have room to slide up the ropes it helps shape the hammock and the sides will not be as floppy. I have modded a couple Claytors and a Clark after experimenting I came to the conclusion that not cinching the ends worked better for me.
Interesting... how did you attach the suspension then?
/Wild
hangnout
09-06-2010, 20:54
Use something like the chain link pictured on the AHE site. Just run through channel and attach both ends to your rings.
On my Clark I made a whoopie sling with a large fixed eye on the channel end of hammock. Run the rope through the channel then bury it leaving plenty of room for channel to move in. The other end is the adjustable end.
oldgringo
09-06-2010, 21:02
The chain link needs to be a long one...say, 24" stretched length, or so.
From there, you could larkshead on a single ring, and attach a whoopie to that, or go with 2 rings, and form a ring buckle. Last option would be the cinch buckle from onrope.
I'm going to play with this when I get home, on the Claytor, as well as several other channel end hammocks.
I recently picked up a Claytor and have been looking at my suspension options. I've watched Neo's video with the rings. Found reference to the use of a short 18 inch strap with two end loops run through the channel, then hooked to a carabiner and someone also posted a recommendation for the JRB tri-glides with dutch clips.
I'm looking forward to seeing where this thread goes. I did just order the tri-glides and should have them in a week or so. I'm hoping to leave the end open and adjustable like the stock suspension when I try them.
I had a chance to hang the Claytor with both the AHE ultra light buckles and the JRB tri-glides:
The AHE buckles were very easy to adjust. I did need to add a slippery half hitch after hitting the ground the first time trying them with strapworks HSS1P webbing. I did not have this problem with the stock WBBB webbing. I was really impressed by the comfort of this hammock.
I then tried the Jacks tri-glides and Dutch clips on the Claytor. This left the end open the same way the stock suspension would. I personally could not feel a difference in how the hammock hung. This was a VERY quick test though as it was my Mothers birthday and I was supposed to be inside, not testing out multiple hammocks and suspensions:rolleyes:
Other thoughts:
The buckles with Dutch clips were really quick and easy. Watch what straps you use with them, the half hitch was needed with the HSS1P webbing but not with others I have tried and this webbing made the setup much heavier. Does anyone have a recommendation for webbing?
The Tri-glides felt the same to me (5 minute test), were much lighter and I did really like them but the fiddle factor went up drastically for me as far as getting the hang angles I wanted. I liked the light weight and did leave them on the Claytor so that I can test again soon with different hanging distances. If I can get the fiddle factor down lower I will keep these on the hammock.
I have a few picks of the buckles. I will edit with picks of the Tri-glides when I have a chance.
I bought a claytor nonet last Christmas--------I converted the suspension over to speer straps, triglides, and dutch clips. I dont know if I did it right, or if I did it the best way possible, but heres what worked for me...........I cut the strap in 2 pieces. The first piece, I fed through the end channel, and then placing the two ends over the top of each other, I sewed them together. (leave one end a little longer, maybe a foot?) Take the longer end, feed it through your triglide. Take the other piece of strap, and feed it through the triglide, on top of the first piece. What I like about this set up is, I can adjust the tension of the strap , with out having to adjust the loop that feeds through the end channel. Anyway, it works well for me! Combined with dutch clips, its really easy to adjust and set up. I also added an adjustable ridge line, to hold up my mosquito net, and am in the process of rigging it up so i get a consistant hang every time. (by marking the ridge line) Also, Ive heard other people say that when they switch from straps to small diameter line throught the end channel, they tend to have more shoulder pinch. The straps tend to hold the end open a little more.
GvilleDave
05-17-2011, 12:45
I just switched suspension on my DIY Jungle Hammock and came up with a solution that let's you run a doubled loop through the channel and then attach both ends to your cinch buckle or rings with a lark's head. This allows the hammock to slide and adjust along the channel and does not cinch down the channel. At the same time the system is easily removable without tying or untying any knots so if you had to use your JH as a bivi you could. Here's a link to the thread:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33117
It was a easy DIY switch and if you like a ring buckle or cinch buckle suspension then it is a good option for a Claytor.