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Desert Reprobate
01-19-2011, 20:31
They are probably in the back room making the stuff up as fast as they can.
Let's not put any more pressure on Opie. Who knows when we might want to get another 7.7 miles of line.
No pressure...
Im starting a new venture and it coincided with the beginning of this buy. So I was a little stressed about things getting hectic. But at this pace, Im not worried.
Right now I also have about 5 people close to me that have offered to help.... So If this does actually happen, it should be pretty smooth.
KerMegan
01-19-2011, 20:34
wow! we are on the leading edge of rope technology;....testing ..the ..outer..limits..
Neat!
KM (who is soooo hopped up on cold meds- it would be amusing if anybody was here to see it.)
JohnSawyer
01-20-2011, 13:54
No stress on the speed Opie, we all just want to make sure you don't go out of pocket by doing a favor to us all...
KM (who is soooo hopped up on cold meds- it would be amusing if anybody was here to see it.)
Nyquil and wine, eh?
Desert Reprobate
01-21-2011, 17:47
Probably got reported to Homeland Security
Dear Janet,
We have some guy trying to get 40000 feet of line. We don't know what he's going to do with it but it couldn't be legal.
wildcrafter
01-22-2011, 09:54
that much rope whats he up to lol:scared:
lmoseley7
01-22-2011, 11:14
I'm sorry to start with, I didn't read 26 pages of posts to see if the order was closed and what the cost was coming out to be. If it's still open can I get some info? Opie, how are you taking payments; paypal?
I'm sorry to start with, I didn't read 26 pages of posts to see if the order was closed and what the cost was coming out to be. If it's still open can I get some info? Opie, how are you taking payments; paypal?
The buy is closed.
And so far I havent head back from the vendor on what shipping costs will be. Its been over 1 week and Ive placed several orders with them since.
goatnuck
01-22-2011, 21:36
I can't believe I missed this! I actually feel a little sick to my stomach.
Opie, if anyone backs out of their order I would be happy to fill in the gap and buy 100-200'.
Cheers!
I know I missed the buy, but if you still have any left over let me know. Thanks...
Update.....
Shipping to me will be free. It will be drop shipped from Samson.
The catch, we have to round out each color and size to an even multiple of 600 or 1200. I will figure what we need, where, this evening when I get home.
It will take 3-4 weeks for Samson to make and ship the order.
packeagle
01-25-2011, 15:00
Thanks Opie. I'll be willing to change colors of my 200' if it helps round things out.
Lol, I don't think people having to order a little more rope will be a big issue. If you post it they will come. :lol:
sandpiper
01-25-2011, 19:33
If you post it they will come. :lol:
Like bees to honey.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
OK folks, here we go. I will only be posting the numbers for the colors/sizes we need to round up. Before we start moving numbers around to make things even out, lets see if theres interest in getting the current numbers evened out.
I still have access to the spreadsheet. I will update based on replies to the list below. Please keep replies to this thread.
7/64:
200' of black (Had an opening)
0' of sliver (275' spoken for)
300' of red (or drop 300')
475' of green (or drop 125')
0' of blue (50' spoken for)
0' of orange (150' spoken for)
0' of yellow (200' spoken for)
1/8
300' of black (or drop the 200') 100' Spoken for
400' of silver (or drop 200')
300' of red (or drop the 300')
200' of green (or drop the 400')
I'll take 100' of 1/8" black as well Opie.
If you decide to go the other way - dropping the 200' - I'm good with getting none as well. I'm easy either way.
Thanks!
Callahan
01-25-2011, 20:06
Hi Opie,
I'll take 100ft of the 7/64 silver.
Thanks!
Callahan
You can add 50' of 7/64" black to my order.
RWillieK
01-25-2011, 20:20
Throw the 50 feet of Blue (7/64) on my account.....Thanks Opie!!
never mind. lol. I'll take an extra 100' of silver 7/64, If its still there.
Left 7/64 :
75 Silver
400 Red
475 Green
150 Orange
200 Yellow
Left 1/8:
300 black
400 silver
300 red
200 green
Bump... Come on people buy some rope!:)
PuckerFactor
01-25-2011, 20:37
Hey Opie, I'll take 100' of red, 200' of yellow, and 75' of silver. Less of each is fine if it's been spoken for too.
Thanks,
PF
Left 7/64 :
300 Red
475 Green
150 Orange
Left 1/8:
300 black
400 silver
300 red
200 green
By my count...
Put me down for the 150 of the orange ...
Left 7/64 :
300 Red
475 Green
Left 1/8:
300 black
400 silver
300 red
200 green
Ok I'm gunna stop now. lol
Update............
OK folks, here we go. I will only be posting the numbers for the colors/sizes we need to round up. Before we start moving numbers around to make things even out, lets see if theres interest in getting the current numbers evened out.
I still have access to the spreadsheet. I will update based on replies to the list below. Please keep replies to this thread.
7/64:
100' of black (Had an opening)
0' of sliver (275' spoken for)
300' of red (or drop 300')
175' of green (300' spoken for)
0' of blue (50' spoken for)
0' of orange (150' spoken for)
0' of yellow (200' spoken for)
1/8
300' of black (or drop 300') 100' Spoken for
300' of silver (or drop 300')
300' of red (or drop the 300')
200' of green (or drop the 400')
egroeg555
01-25-2011, 21:07
I would like 300' of 7/64 green and 100' of 1/8 silver if I can be added. I do not already have an order.
Thanks.
goatnuck
01-25-2011, 21:08
I didn't make it into the original buy, but I will take 100' of 7/64 black to help the cause!
lbdgolfer
01-25-2011, 21:35
I'll take the 100' of 7/64 black and 175' of 7/64 green to help round out those colors.
Lewis
Hey Opie, ill take 100' of any extra 7/64, my preferance in color goes black, orange, silver, red, yellow, green, blue. If can be two different colors, or whatever works best for you. Thanks. .
(Edit)
Kind of confused, these updates are a bit different.
I put my name on the list for 200' grey, way back on page 4. Not sure what happens next. How will I know how to pay? How will the amsteel get shipped to me? Just need a little heads up here.
thanks,
sky
I put my name on the list for 200' grey, way back on page 4. Not sure what happens next. How will I know how to pay? How will the amsteel get shipped to me? Just need a little heads up here.
thanks,
sky
Youre on the list.
Once we get the total numbers done, Then I need to do some math to figure what things weigh and what will be the best way to ship. Then I break that down into a per-foot price and you simply multiply how many feet you are getting by the per-foot price and youll send the money to me via paypal.
Shipments will more than likely be USPS. Most of the numbers are over the 13 ounce rule for first class mail. So it will either be parcel or priority.
If still needed I can take 100' of RED. That is in addition to my order. My preference would be to make sure the ones that missed out, and have spoken up, were accommodated as best as possible. Thanks.
If the RED gets dropped, then I would like to go back to my original order.
jeremesh
01-25-2011, 22:12
OK folks, here we go. I will only be posting the numbers for the colors/sizes we need to round up. Before we start moving numbers around to make things even out, lets see if theres interest in getting the current numbers evened out.
I still have access to the spreadsheet. I will update based on replies to the list below. Please keep replies to this thread.
7/64:
50' of black
175' of sliver (100' spoken for)
400' of red (or drop 200')
475' of green (or drop 125')
50' of blue
150' of orange
200' of yellow
1/8
300' of black (or drop the 200') 100' Spoken for
400' of silver (or drop 200')
300' of red (or drop the 300')
200' of green (or drop the 400')
You can drop 125 foot of my green and leave it as that or add it to other colors as needed
OK folks, here we go. I will only be posting the numbers for the colors/sizes we need to round up. Before we start moving numbers around to make things even out, lets see if theres interest in getting the current numbers evened out.
I still have access to the spreadsheet. I will update based on replies to the list below. Please keep replies to this thread.
7/64:
0' of black
0' of sliver
100' of red
0' of green
0' of blue
0' of orange
0' of yellow
1/8
300' of black (or drop 300') 100' Spoken for
300' of silver (or drop 300')
300' of red (or drop the 300')
200' of green (or drop the 400')
Hey Opie, ill take 100' of any extra 7/64, my preferance in color goes black, orange, silver, red, yellow, green, blue. If can be two different colors, or whatever works best for you. Thanks. .
(Edit)
Kind of confused, these updates are a bit different.
I got you for 100' of red.
You can drop 125 foot of my green and leave it as that or add it to other colors as needed
As of right now, green is all rounded out. You still want to drop yours?
If still needed I can take 100' of RED. That is in addition to my order. My preference would be to make sure the ones that missed out, and have spoken up, were accommodated as best as possible. Thanks.
If the RED gets dropped, then I would like to go back to my original order.
I got you in for an additional 100' of red.
You're the man Opie. No matter how confusing this gets you're way on top of things and all for free. Thank you VERY much. This amsteel helps me out a lot.
ill take 100' of black 1/8".
you can add it or not. how ever it works out in the end
awestberry
01-25-2011, 22:43
Ignore my PM. If the buy is still open, I'll take 100' of whatever color is most convenient. I'm not picky. Thanks for doing this.
kmanclutch
01-25-2011, 22:46
I'll take 50 additional feet of any color. Looks like 7/64 is all spoken for so just 1/8 right? Thanks.
Ignore my PM. If the buy is still open, I'll take 100' of whatever color is most convenient. I'm not picky. Thanks for doing this.
There is 100' of red 7/64 calling your name.
OK folks, here we go. I will only be posting the numbers for the colors/sizes we need to round up. Before we start moving numbers around to make things even out, lets see if theres interest in getting the current numbers evened out.
I still have access to the spreadsheet. I will update based on replies to the list below. Please keep replies to this thread.
7/64: IS ALL SPOKEN FOR
0' of black
0' of sliver
0' of red
0' of green
0' of blue
0' of orange
0' of yellow
1/8
200' of black
300' of silver (or drop 300')
300' of red (or drop the 300')
200' of green (or drop the 400')
awestberry
01-25-2011, 22:53
Gracias amigo!
ill take 100' of black 1/8".
you can add it or not. how ever it works out in the end
Gotcha....
I'll take 50 additional feet of any color. Looks like 7/64 is all spoken for so just 1/8 right? Thanks.
Yup, all thats left is 1/8
Gracias amigo!
De nada....
ill take 200' of 1/8 black if its still open
Opie what was the price per ft on the 1/8 in before shipping?
Winchester52
01-25-2011, 23:16
Opie I will take 1/8" 200' of silver if its still available
Update/edit:
Actually I will take 200' of either 7/64 or 1/8 and color is not that important if that would help
morticianfaller
01-25-2011, 23:18
i will take 100' of either the red or green 1/8". does not matter which one just pick whatever is best for you. Thanks for the help.
I'll take 200' of whatever color or colors that help the most.
Ill take 200' of the red. or shift as needed.
canoeski
01-26-2011, 01:25
I could use 100' of 1/8" black if still available.
Thanks Opie!
Opie, I'll take 100' of whatever 1/8" stuff needs to be filled. Green is the first choice.
My math ain't perfect, but I think Opie is sold out. Wait for him for the official word...:)
RWillieK
01-26-2011, 07:17
We need an official total too :)
Boothill
01-26-2011, 12:47
We need an official total too :)
by my math it's 43,750 feet, but that's not the even number he was looking for so i'm guessing there's 50 feet somewhere i'm missing
43,800 feet would be 73-600 foot rolls for the even number that opie was looking for, or to continue the totals on the spread sheet
8.295 total in miles
13.379 total in kilometers
2.402 total in leagues
3,650 total in 6' whoopie slings
0.00336 # of times from LA -> NY
8,760 wraps around Shug (pretty sure this is around the middle of Shug and not head to toe, never met the man, but i'm assuming he's taller than 2'6", atleast he looks taller than that in the videos) :)
438 screaming spouse decibels
1,097 lbs for entire order or
497,590.42 grams or
77.887 stone or
.1192 african elephants
$5,256.00 for entire order or
$5,208,00 $AU (as of 1-26-11) for entire order or
$103,098,893.00 $Vietnamese Dong (as of 1-26-11) for entire order
*all numbers are unofficial and for informational purposes only, please no wagering :)
boot
Can the Samson site be correct? I am reading it as 100 ft of 7/64 is .30 pounds, or 4.8 oz. If that is true, shipping would seem to be near 16 ounces for 300 ft. 1100 pounds for 43,800 ft is about 8 pounds for 300 ft. Which is it? Not that I care all that much, but it is a serious difference.
sampson rope (http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?rope=192)
Its 131.4 Lbs of rope for the entire order, neglecting spools, pallets and such...:)
It is .3 lbs for 100 ft. of Amsteel - Blue.
well, to be correct you'd have to factor in how much is 1/8" too... but that'll be pretty close.
Thanks. I was looking at possible shipping costs, and there is a difference between 1 pound and 8 pounds. :D
Boothill
01-26-2011, 18:18
Can the Samson site be correct? I am reading it as 100 ft of 7/64 is .30 pounds, or 4.8 oz. If that is true, shipping would seem to be near 16 ounces for 300 ft. 1100 pounds for 43,800 ft is about 8 pounds for 300 ft. Which is it? Not that I care all that much, but it is a serious difference.
ahhh, i just used the conversion that was already on the spread sheet, i didn't actually check the numbers, my bad......yea a bit of a difference :)
boot
Opie what was the price per ft on the 1/8 in before shipping?
$.20 per foot.
I could use 100' of 1/8" black if still available.
Thanks Opie!
Opie, I'll take 100' of whatever 1/8" stuff needs to be filled. Green is the first choice.
I need to double check my math, But I think everything is filled out.
I know the 7/64 is all rounded off.
Also.... There is a portion of this headed to the UK, about 6000'. So dont use the numbers on the spreadsheet to figure an even number. The UK order isnt on the spreadsheet.
Here is the updated spreadsheet. Ill add in the 1/8 numbers in a bit.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhhIu3Jcb_U0dEV5OXBmRVZ6ZVE5bU96U0s3bWdzN mc&hl=en&authkey=COW9vdYJ#gid=0
Opie I will take 1/8" 200' of silver if its still available
Update/edit:
Actually I will take 200' of either 7/64 or 1/8 and color is not that important if that would help
Sunny... My math shows there is only 100' available. Is that OK?
Sunny... My math shows there is only 100' available. Is that OK?
Sunny, my math was wrong. You are good to go for 200' of 1/8 silver.
IN FACT, we need 100' more of 1/8 silver to round everything off.
Between MuseJr and canoeski......
packeagle
01-26-2011, 21:16
First off, Thanks Opie for doing this. Second, I have a question as to how final per foot price will be figured out. Will it be total cost of ALL (to opie and individuals) shipping and line divided by the amount of line, OR will it be cost of line and shipping to opie divided by amount of line + actual shipping to individuals?
Ether way this will be a good deal, just curious.
First off, Thanks Opie for doing this. Second, I have a question as to how final per foot price will be figured out. Will it be total cost of ALL (to opie and individuals) shipping and line divided by the amount of line, OR will it be cost of line and shipping to opie divided by amount of line + actual shipping to individuals?
Ether way this will be a good deal, just curious.
Eagle.... The shipping to me will be free. It will be drop shipped from Samson to a terminal near me where I will pick up the pallet.
So ultimate final price will be the price of the line plus shipping and shipping supplies cost to you.
For example.... If someone got 200 foot of 7/64, cost breakdown would look like this....
Cost of line : $24
Shipping : Between $3 and $5
Shipping Materials : (Estimate right now) $.50
So worst case, rough guess would be $29.50 for a 200' order.
I think it would be best to use Priority shipping with the flat rate boxes. Im pretty sure I can stuff 300' of line in a small box and those are $5 if paid online. Plus I dont have to buy the shipping carton.
Shipping internationally will be a bit more.
I think there is 1 participant that bought an entire spool. Shipping will be a little higher on that one as well.
packeagle
01-26-2011, 21:29
Thanks for the quick reply! I forgot shipping to you was free. (slaps head) You did answer my main question about shipping.
YOU DA MAN OPIE!
canoeski
01-26-2011, 22:53
Sunny, my math was wrong. You are good to go for 200' of 1/8 silver.
IN FACT, we need 100' more of 1/8 silver to round everything off.
Between MuseJr and canoeski......
I 'll take 100' of whatever color 1/8" you need to round out.:)
Mucho gracious!
Winchester52
01-27-2011, 00:45
Thanks alot Opie. I will wait for posting of payment instructions. That will be a nightmare in itself.
JohnSawyer
01-27-2011, 01:00
And if everyone threw Opie a couple of extra bucks in the order, it would cover his fuel costs and blades to cut this all up... and maybe buy him a nice steak dinner... :D
Don't forget to mark your paypal payment as a Gift!
I wonder what Shug would look like, wrapped up in several miles of amsteel?
Opie: For you:
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/K0PbIucLHVVFDW8EXD10
JohnSawyer
01-27-2011, 01:38
Found it:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/4/4/9/shuginstring_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=12457&c=10)
Hi all, is this still open to get some?
I'm from the netherlands and have a hard time getting this stuff, even with the local dealers listed on the samsungrope website. I'd be interested in about 300 feet
I 'll take 100' of whatever color 1/8" you need to round out.:)
Mucho gracious!
Done........
Hi all, is this still open to get some?
I'm from the netherlands and have a hard time getting this stuff, even with the local dealers listed on the samsungrope website. I'd be interested in about 300 feet
zy, sorry but we just got everything wrapped up. Unless you want 600 or 1200 feet.
John, thats good stuff!!!
Hangin' Burrito
01-27-2011, 05:06
Found it:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/4/4/9/shuginstring_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=12457&c=10)
That's good stuff John! Too funny!!:lol::lol::lol:
zy, sorry but we just got everything wrapped up. Unless you want 600 or 1200 feet.
Thanks opie, I'll have to pass this one. I was able to work something out here in the Netherlands right after my post :)
Since I'm an amsteel noob I'm stuck with the question about the difference between 1/8 and 7/64 inch amsteel.
the breaking strength of course and a little weight, but I'm more concerned about it being 'idiot proof' (the idiot being me of course) than weight savings.
Is there anything I'm missing here??
thanks
Zy, the only differences are the strength, physical diameter of the line and 7/64 is 8 strand while all other sizes are 12 strand. There are escalating bury lengths as you increase in line diameter also.
All spools have been rounded off. I'll get some math done after work today.
No math today. Snowing so I need to go to bed. Gotta be up in a few hours to go back to work.
However, I should be home just about all day tomorrow so I can get the payment arrangements worked out. I did forget to add in the paypal fees in my quick price figure a few posts back. I think its still 3% and $.29 per transaction.
However, the IRS, starting this year, is requiring Paypal to report any accounts that have $20,000 AND 200 transactions within the calender year. Not sure if this includes personal payments so I need to look into that. Since Im not selling the line for profit, Id hate to have this venture count against me next year on my taxes.
JohnSawyer
01-27-2011, 20:41
However, the IRS, starting this year, is requiring Paypal to report any accounts that have $20,000 AND 200 transactions within the calender year. Not sure if this includes personal payments so I need to look into that. Since Im not selling the line for profit, Id hate to have this venture count against me next year on my taxes.
Having been self-employed in the past, you'd need to keep records of the costs of goods, and the sale prices. You deduct the cost of goods sold from the sales price. In this case, you won't profit, so nothing to pay taxes on... Of course, you'll need to track all your ancillary expenses: postage, supplies, etc. Those are a cost of doing business, so net-net, you may take a loss at some point and owe little to the tax-man...
Get a good accountant if you're going to be in business for yourself.
Besides, you're small potatoes. They won't target you over a few thousand dollars...
John
Having been self-employed in the past, you'd need to keep records of the costs of goods, and the sale prices. You deduct the cost of goods sold from the sales price. In this case, you won't profit, so nothing to pay taxes on... Of course, you'll need to track all your ancillary expenses: postage, supplies, etc. Those are a cost of doing business, so net-net, you may take a loss at some point and owe little to the tax-man...
Get a good accountant if you're going to be in business for yourself.
Besides, you're small potatoes. They won't target you over a few thousand dollars...
John
Thats what I figured after I thought about it. Since Im not making any money on it, theres no issue.
Im figuring shipping prices right now.....
You international folks that arent in Canada are going to get hammered.
I figure I can get 200' of 7/64 into a small flat rate box which goes for $11.95 to Canada and Mexico and $13.95 everywhere else.
Anything above 200' will need to go in a medium box which goes for $27.95 to Canada and Mexico and $45.50 everywhere else.
Payment thread HERE (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27847).