SB Light Hiker - The first hour

[^shane^]

Got home from work to find my new Light Hiker had been delivered:D. It didn't take long to dive in...
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I quickly got my WBBB 1.7 Dbl and my wife's WBBB 1.0 Dbl (picture is mis-marked as a 1.1 Dbl - sorry) for comparisons. Size-wise, the Light Hiker packs up in the supplied Bishop bag to about the size of the WBBB 1.7 Dbl. It could be packed smaller if the Bishop bag were smaller, but will mush down when packed. The Light Hiker doesn't feel to weigh much more than the WBBB 1.0 Dbl.

On to the trees... My oaks are about 19 feet apart, so I don't get an optimal hang from them, and I didn't take a lot of time to tweak the hang.

It took about 2 minutes to get the straps around the trees and the whoopies attached to the straps. I used a small carabiner as a toggle in the strap loop and attached the whoopies in the marlin spike hitch style (whoopie hanging from the strap, not the biner). I began looking at the detail of the construction - straight line sewing, zippers are super smooth and come with small cord pulls, pull outs with shock cord, extra stitching at gathered ends. Each end of the hammock has a mesh pocket and cord loop attachment point (for attaching a peaks bag or a pillow).
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Once I had given the hammock the once over admiring the build, I began working on raising the netting. The Light Hiker does not have a structural ridge line that supports the mosquito netting. Instead, it has an attachment point on each end. Inside the hammock, a length of small cord runs from attachment point to attachment point. This could be used for hanging small items from once deployed. Outside the hammock, a length of shock cord attached to small cord is tied to each attachment point. These are used to pull the mosquito netting up, and can be attached to either your tarp ridge line, or to the tree straps that the hammock is hanging from.
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A great feature of the Light Hiker (and the Switchbacks) is the ability to pull the mosquito netting up and hang the hammock open. The mosquito netting cannot be completely removed from the hammock.
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Ok... enough looking and playing. I bought it to lay in. Please remember that these impressions are from about 10 minutes spend laying in the hammock. I have not yet had the chance to sleep in the hammock for any length of time.

First impression - this thing feels BOMB PROOF. I've had a 1.1 Dbl Blackbird and that hammock did not feel like this. It was stretchy. The Light Hiker feels like I'm hanging in the 1.7 Dbl Blackbird. I was immediately pleased.

I was worried about the length of the hammock (it is 8" shorter than the Switchback and 8" shorter than the Blackbird). I found I was able to get on a good diagonal though. If anything, the length is fine, but the hammock seems a little narrow. I fear that I may experience some shoulder squeeze when laying flat out on my back.
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When on the diagonal, I did experience a tiny bit of calf ridge. I am going to assume that this is due to the fact I didn't take a lot of time tweaking the hang - getting the hammock near level or foot end a bit higher.

I was amazed when I turned on one side and then the other. I cannot do that in a Blackbird. I could be comfortable in a semi-fetal position on either my right or left side.

Worries:


The hammock seems a bit narrow. I felt a bit of shoulder squeeze. A possible fix could be using the additional side loops as a 2nd pull out point, thus pulling the fabric away from my right shoulder a bit.
Nothing else at the moment...:cool:

Things I'm going to change:


The side pull outs come as a single piece of 1/8" shock cord. I'm going to change out the pull outs to smaller shock cord and Zing-it - similar to my tarp guy line system.
The netting tie outs come as 1/8" shock cord tied to a length of very small diameter cord. I'm going to change these out to a loop of smaller shock cord attached to Zing-it whoopies. I always hang a tarp, so I plan on attaching these tie outs to either the tarp ridge line or the tarp D-rings themselves (haven't decided yet).
Possibly add shock cord/Zing-it tie outs to the other two hammock side loops.

I haven't had time to attach my Phoenix or Incubator to the Light Hiker yet. I'll get that done the next time I have the hammock set up. I'm hoping to back yard camp in the Light Hiker one night this weekend.

We all know the deciding factor is sleep. Once I've had a chance to spend some quality time in the hammock I'll share my impressions.

[Bubba]

Thanks Shane. I just picked one up from redbeard and am looking to forward to heaing how you sleep in it.

[Alan]

Shane,

Nice job and great pictures to document the excitement of getting your new Light Hiker!

What surprises me the most is that you experienced a tiny calf ridge. I hope you're able to alleviate that when you've got a chance to adjust the hammock a bit more to your liking.

Looking forward to your next report!

[Joey]

Great write up! I'm sure you'll be able to dial this in for a good sleep with such attention to detail.

Looking forward to hearing more about this hammock. I've been looking at them, but haven't heard too much.

[MAD777]

Great review, Shane!
The big separator for me was that I could get instantly comfortale in any position in a Switchback.

[MAD777]

Although the regular Switchback & the LightHiker are the same width, a taller person's shoulders are going to be closer to the hammock's end where the fabric is coming together. This could be an explanation for the perceived tightness.

[MrTiles]

Thanks for doing this write-up. I've had my LH at least two weeks and I've yet to get it hung. I'm such a slacker...

[^shane^]

I'm playing hookey from work today, and had an hour to burn before my tee time:lol: so I re-hung the SBLH. This time I took my time to get a good hang.

Look ma... no calf ridge:D:D:D.

I haven't made any of the changes I listed in my first post yet, but I was even more comfortable in the hammock this morning than I was yesterday afternoon.

Here's a few more pics...
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Off to the course. We can't hang all the time, can we?

[millarky]

"When on the diagonal, I did experience a tiny bit of calf ridge."

I fought with a calf ridge last night in the SB. Got out, flattened lay, got back in, that's all I remember :laugh:. SB loves to be flat. I hang it pretty tight and my body weight gets it down to a nice little sag. Sorta against everything I learned here on HF but there you have it.

[Alan]

Look ma... no calf ridge:D:D:D

Nice! :cool:



SB loves to be flat. Sorta against everything I learned here on HF but there you have it.

This is the truth!

[KMACK]

Looks nice. Can you attach a tarp to the bug net lines?

[russmay]

http://shaneandpamela.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/TTTrail_Gear_Light_Hiker_20110218_032.JPG
I was just curious as to you hight weight and build in this picture.it looks as if you don't have much room. I have to admit it looks as if you have a good flat lay.

[^shane^]

I was just curious as to you hight weight and build in this picture.it looks as if you don't have much room. I have to admit it looks as if you have a good flat lay.

I'm 6'0" and 220# right now (hopefully on my way down to 195# - workin' my butt off to get there).

The hammock feels great lengthwise. When I got it hanging flat this morning, some of the shoulder squeeze disappeared as well as the calf ridge disappearing. MAD777 made a good point that the shoulder squeeze could be due to the shorter length since my shoulders would be around 4" closer to the portion of the hammock that narrows up to the gathers.


Looks nice. Can you attach a tarp to the bug net lines?
I wouldn't try that. The but net lines are shock cord. Your tarp would never be taut if you attached it to these lines. On the other hand, I plan on attaching the bug net lines directly to my tarp's ridge line. Still trying to decide on the best method for this...

[Darby]

... I plan on attaching the bug net lines directly to my tarp's ridge line. Still trying to decide on the best method for this...

I use this method. I found two very small clips and attached them to the shock cord, eliminating the light line tied to the shock cord and a good portion of the shock cord. When I'm rigging I just clip the shock cord to the tarp ridge line. If I'm not using a tarp or rigging it high, I just tie a short length of line to the shock cord and then to my Dutch Clip or biner, whichever I'm using at the time.

Cheers, Dale

[Hiker9]

I'm 6'0" and 220# right now (hopefully on my way down to 195# - workin' my butt off to get there).

Right there with you. Here's hoping you get there! :thumbup:

[^shane^]

Today was tinker day with the Light Hiker.

I spent about 5 minutes getting a good hang set up (no calf ridge) then I began making changes.

I took off the 1/8" shock cord pull outs (one on each side) and fashioned four pull outs using about 3' of 3/32" shock cord attached to about 3' of Zing-it. I attached these to the two pull out D rings and to the two other loops on the sides. This shaved a little weight and helped with the shoulder squeeze.

I took off the 1/8" shock cord and mini-cord lines used to raise the netting. I fashioned two loops of 3/32" shock cord and attached those to the netting pull outs. I hung my WB BMJ tarp with its continuous ridge line and added two small Zing-it loops to the ridge line as prussics. The shock cord loops attach to the prussics with size 1 S-biners.

Now I'm writing this from the Light Hiker with my black Friday summer Phoenix from HammockGear. I just attached the supplied S-biners to the whoopies just above the gathered ends of the hammock. As soon as I'm done finger pecking this message I'm going to catch some zzzz's.

[edit: adding pictures]
I had the hammock hung with one end about 4" lower than the other end. Since it is a SWITCHBACK, I was laying with my head on the high end of the hammock when the pics were taken. Hammock was comfortable in this position, but when I took my nap I SWITCHED BACK to the other end, with my head on the low end of the hammock. Seemed to be a more flat lay that way.
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[JaxHiker]

So how's the shoulder issue? Get that taken care of or is it still a consideration for us tall folk? I'm wanting to shave some weight and even going with the 1.1 DL won't be much different then where I'm at with the Hennessy.

[^shane^]

I added pull out lines to the other two loops sewn on the sides of the hammocks. These loops are exactly opposite of the two tie-out loops that come with a sewn-in D-ring (and I'm not exactly sure what they are for...).
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This seemed to help with the shoulder squeeze a bit. My nap was short, but I didn't experience any sort of discomfort... but I was on my side for most of the nap:D (I just didn't think that would be possible in a hammock). For this hang, I just staked each side out in a V like the diagram as the tarp was not deployed. If the tarp were up, I'd stake each pull out to the tarp stakes.

The next move is to decide if the wife likes the Light Hiker better than the WBBB. If so, I'm stuck as to what to order - another Light Hiker or a 1.1 Dbl Switchback. I'm leaning towards ordering a 1.1 Dbl Switchback just to see/experience the difference. When we are backpacking together, I'll carry the Switchback. When I'm out alone, I'll carry the Light Hiker.

[JaxHiker]

I'm leaning towards ordering a 1.1 Dbl Switchback just to see/experience the difference.

Watcha waitin' for? I don't have all the time in the world. :D

[MAD777]

My nap was short, but I didn't experience any sort of discomfort... but I was on my side for most of the nap:D (I just didn't think that would be possible in a hammock).

Shane, I'm glad you like the Switchback. Before I bought mine, I wrote to Darby with a few questions, telling him that I had tried one at the Florida hang. The term I used to describe my feeling in the hammock was "FREEDOM"

Enjoy!

[StumpJumper]

http://shaneandpamela.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_TTTrail_Gear_Light_Hiker_20110220_044.JPG


Shane, I'm curious, could you attach the Phoenix UQ to those (4) side tie outs rather than the hammock ends? They look like the perfect distance apart.

[^shane^]

Shane, I'm curious, could you attach the Phoenix UQ to those (4) side tie outs rather than the hammock ends? They look like the perfect distance apart.

The Phoenix was suspended from the hammock ends using the stock suspension (shortened up a bit). I did not use the 4 tie outs. I don't think they would be placed quite correctly unless you are pretty short. I DO use the 4 tie outs to pull out the sides of the hammock itself. Doing that relieved the shoulder squeeze I felt on the initial hang.