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mataharihiker
05-04-2008, 10:03
I am such a good girl...I am not hijacking the thread on Permatex seam sealer to respond to a question about fabrics...I thought I'd share what info I have on outdoor fabrics here...

Outdoor Wilderness Fabric, Inc (http://www.owfinc.com/Fabrics/fabricmain.htm) is a good place to start...they also sell zippers, cool hardware and looky, clear vinyl for windows in fabrics...

Seattle Fabrics (http://www.seattlefabrics.com/products.html) sells stuff that more oriented to the boating crowd but they have mosquito no-see-um mesh in various colors, which is cool....

And Specialty Outdoors (http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/sources.asp) kindly lists many other resources...

I hope these help some of you looking for fabric resources...

schrochem
05-04-2008, 10:09
There are a few others that are listed here (http://www.hammockforums.net/links/browselinks.php?c=9).

mataharihiker
05-04-2008, 16:34
Hey, thanks schrochem...my searches didn't bring that up...

robi
05-11-2008, 02:23
for those of us in Europe and for those who may be looking for other soruces

www.shelby.fi

Zach is super friend.y, has always helped me out and has some great patterns for free and great ones for sale too for clothing.

robi

catnip
05-11-2008, 03:48
Quest Outfitters is a good business, too. questoutfitters.com If you order before their mailing time (2 or 3 pm eastern, I can't remember), they'll mail the same day.

I had a problem with one piece of fabric I ordered last time (defective coating, no way to notice it until sewing). They replaced it with a good piece for free, AND refunded my money for the 1 yard.

They're located in Florida so shipping is faster for those of us in the southeast US, vs. outfitters on the west coast.

FanaticFringer
05-11-2008, 06:45
Quest Outfitters is a good business, too. questoutfitters.com If you order before their mailing time (2 or 3 pm eastern, I can't remember), they'll mail the same day.

I had a problem with one piece of fabric I ordered last time (defective coating, no way to notice it until sewing). They replaced it with a good piece for free, AND refunded my money for the 1 yard.

They're located in Florida so shipping is faster for those of us in the southeast US, vs. outfitters on the west coast.

Very good folks to deal with. Their shipping rates are very fair.

Splat
05-11-2008, 12:00
I wish QO had Climashield but I searched and it's not listed. Maybe I'll call them tomorrow to check this.

Brian
05-11-2008, 12:39
I have had numerous exchanges with both OWF and Quest. Both fantastic sources, and if they don't have something you need, shoot them an email! They have some mysterious power of getting things that they don't have listed.


Brian

fin
05-11-2008, 21:12
Has anyone had any dealings with magna fabrics? Here are two listings from thier site:

62 INCH WIDE 100% NYLON "RAINSUIT" DURABLE WATERPROOF ACU UNIVERSAL DIGITAL CAMOUFLAGE, MIL-DDL-31011A- 49 CENTS A YARD

60 INCH 1.9 OUNCE COATED RIPSTOP 99 CENTS A YARD

GrizzlyAdams
05-11-2008, 21:18
Has anyone had any dealings with magna fabrics? Here are two listings from thier site:

62 INCH WIDE 100% NYLON "RAINSUIT" DURABLE WATERPROOF ACU UNIVERSAL DIGITAL CAMOUFLAGE, MIL-DDL-31011A- 49 CENTS A YARD

60 INCH 1.9 OUNCE COATED RIPSTOP 99 CENTS A YARD

yes. I got some material listed as 1.9 oz ripstop. It probably started life at 1.9 oz, but had a coating applied that was much heavier than DWR, weighs in at something like 4 oz / yd.

I think it's kinda of like shopping the dollar bin at Walmart, with a blind-fold on ;)

Grizz

fin
05-11-2008, 21:26
yes. I got some material listed as 1.9 oz ripstop. It probably started life at 1.9 oz, but had a coating applied that was much heavier than DWR, weighs in at something like 4 oz / yd.

I think it's kinda of like shopping the dollar bin at Walmart, with a blind-fold on ;)

Grizz

It sounds like you'd have a better idea of what you were getting at Walmart with the blindfold. Heavy fabric seems to be plentiful, it's the lightweight stuff that's hard to find for a decent price.

Photograhiker
05-13-2008, 16:27
Yes, Quest rocks!

I called right before closing time, :o and they still cheerfully volunteered to take the time to see if they had everything in my order in stock. :eek: I didn't expect this at all, and it's clear they know the importance of excellent customer service.

Quest Outfitters - Outdoor Fabrics (http://www.questoutfitters.com)

6 feet over
05-24-2008, 18:48
Nylon Ripstop: Coated (Not FAA approved for hot air balloons)
Silicone Coated is the 1.1 oz. listed below. Use the McNett Sil Net:Silicon Seam Sealer to seal the seams.
Also recommended 1/2" gross grain ribbon or 1/2" nylon webbing, and 3/32" draw cord for tie downs.
Uses for all coated Ripstops: Fabric is excellent for tent fly's, stuff sacks, etc. and all applications where a lightweight tear resistant, waterproof fabric is needed. Listed weight is before the coating.
RIPC+color 60" 1.9 oz 70 denier 3/4-1oz coating Woodland Camo 5.30 4.14

In the above notes from the Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics Inc, page:

1. Is this the famous Ďsil-nyloní that is so popular for tarps? Iíve often read that sil-nylon is not available in camo.
2. Is this something else?
3. If itís not the popular sil-nylon, what is the difference?

Thanks,

6

GrizzlyAdams
05-24-2008, 18:56
Nylon Ripstop: Coated (Not FAA approved for hot air balloons)
Silicone Coated is the 1.1 oz. listed below. Use the McNett Sil Net:Silicon Seam Sealer to seal the seams.
Also recommended 1/2" gross grain ribbon or 1/2" nylon webbing, and 3/32" draw cord for tie downs.
Uses for all coated Ripstops: Fabric is excellent for tent fly's, stuff sacks, etc. and all applications where a lightweight tear resistant, waterproof fabric is needed. Listed weight is before the coating.
RIPC+color 60" 1.9 oz 70 denier 3/4-1oz coating Woodland Camo 5.30 4.14

In the above notes from the Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics Inc, page:

1. Is this the famous Ďsil-nyloní that is so popular for tarps? Iíve often read that sil-nylon is not available in camo.
2. Is this something else?
3. If itís not the popular sil-nylon, what is the difference?

Thanks,

6

I know that web page well....

There are a variety of coated nylon fabrics lists in different sections
below that statement. The rows referring to 1.1 oz coated nylon are the silnylon. Other rows cite other weights and these are not silnylon.

The camo that is available is 1.9 oz with a coating that makes it heavier. This is not silnylon, the coating is probably pvc, and adds on the order of 1 oz per square yard to the weight.

Grizz

6 feet over
05-24-2008, 19:40
I know that web page well....

There are a variety of coated nylon fabrics lists in different sections
below that statement. The rows referring to 1.1 oz coated nylon are the silnylon. Other rows cite other weights and these are not silnylon.

The camo that is available is 1.9 oz with a coating that makes it heavier. This is not silnylon, the coating is probably pvc, and adds on the order of 1 oz per square yard to the weight.

Grizz

So this would be a quality tarp material, just not quite as light as silnylon. More like the SG ĎNeoí tarp, correct? I have two of the Neo tarps, and wouldnít mind trying my hand at making some other ones.

What would be the lightest material that would be tough enough to make a pack out of? I have a pack frame with no pack. It would be used to haul a small hunting camp about a mile up hill from our parking spot, and also used to pack out meat should any elk be careless enough to let me within bow range. My first sewing lesson is set for this Wednesday, and Iíll of course be starting with easy stuff. Iíll later take a crack at things like tarps and packs. Any tips welcome.

6

Brian
05-24-2008, 23:03
6,

I would say for the bare beginner, that heavier is better for a pack body fabric. More forgiving of mistakes, more tolerant of errant stitches that may pay a really lightweight fabric apart after repetitive stresses from hiking. With that in mind, for a pack, I think that a good 1.9oz ripstop or 200D oxford would be great for some beginning projects. The oxford will be heavier, but it can take quite a bit of abuse while still staying relatively lightweight.

Start out with some stuff sacks, maybe even a big stuff sack that you can mount to your frame with some webbing loops or whatnot. I think that the extra weight in the fabric is worth it over the complexity of proper reinforcement for attachment to a pack frame, especially for someone starting out. Good luck!

Brian
OES

2Questions
05-25-2008, 11:44
Hey Brian,
I have a DIY idea that I would like to try on my MacCat Deluxe. I'm thinking of adding an aluminum arched pole to the MacCat to provide more room for my hammock. I would like to add triangle patches to the MacCat at the middle on both sides with pole pockets. Do you think it would work? Can I get some of the material you use for the tieout patches from you?

Brian
05-25-2008, 12:43
I think that it may be a great idea. The pole pockets wouldn't need to be very strong themselves, just as long as they don't pull out of the tarp. I only worry about too much strain on the pole in really heavy winds, and that putting some unusual (but not excessive) stresses on the tarp.

Shoot me a PM and we can talk about getting you some fabric. I leave for a 6 week trip to Europe on Thursday, but I can get it out to you before then no problem.

CajunHiker
05-25-2008, 14:47
I've seen a pic of a standard HH tarp that had a pole setup like that. I think it spread both the tarp & the pull-outs for the hammock.

GrizzlyAdams
05-25-2008, 16:50
Dutch put a pole on his DIY BlackCat tarp. Pictures in his gallery I'm sure. I put a pole on the edge of a rectangular tarp. Pictures in my gallery I'm certain!

Grizz

warbonnetguy
05-25-2008, 19:47
this tarp uses 2 poles underneath
Four Season Hammocks: Mayan Hammocks, Rain Flies, Bivy Sacs (http://www.mrhammock.com/index.html)

headchange4u
11-18-2009, 16:33
I wanted to bump this thread. Please add any updated links for fabric sources.

headchange4u
11-18-2009, 16:36
Rockywoods Outdoor Fabrics (http://www.rockywoods.com/)

JerryW
11-18-2009, 16:54
Thru-hiker (http://thru-hiker.com/) is a good source for fabric and insulation.

Ed Speer (http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/Supplies.htm) has one of the best prices on ripstop.

Rochford Supply (http://www.rochfordsupply.com/) has a good selection of DIY supplies, although no light weight fabric.

Brian
11-18-2009, 23:15
Don't forget Quest Outfitters (www.QuestOutfitters.com). They've got some great, unique products and always ship same day if in stock!

PuckerFactor
11-19-2009, 17:42
I just put in an order with http://www.therainshed.com/ on Tuesday, shipped the next day by Priority mail. Haven't gotten it yet, but their prices were pretty good, and the lady on the phone was very helpful and nice.
Also another thumb's up for Quest Outfitters.

Acer

stormcrow
11-19-2009, 17:49
I like this place too.

Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics (http://www.owfinc.com/)

setikites
12-30-2009, 22:00
Kite Studio has lightweight ripstop fabrics in many quality grades
http://www.kitebuilder.com/catalog/index.php

doheir
05-13-2010, 09:11
I don't think they do mail order, but I've gotten tremendous prices on fabric from Fabric Warehouse in Auburn, Maine. They typically have only urethane or polyurethane coated nylons rather than silnylon, but it's priced by the pound or very cheap by the yard.

http://www.fabricwarehouse.com/info.php?info_id=1

Doug

psyculman
05-13-2010, 17:18
Don't forget thruhiker!

http://thru-hiker.com/materials/index.php

d-p
05-21-2010, 14:17
Does anyone know where/who mfg's Spinntex EXP. I'd like to purchase.

Thru-Hiker is OUT of Stock for at least the summer
GM

TZBrown
12-17-2010, 11:19
After reading for hours, and days, on multiple sites, on making cuben fabric gear I think I would like to give it a try. (Oh Boy more gear) :)

After more hours of searching for suppliers, most seem to be sold out for the year. :(

Anyone know of a source in stock?

Or maybe have some scraps for sale that I can start learning with? ;)

If someone would like to refresh any older posts, with latest methods, or start a new post, specifically on Cuben fabrication. That would be great also.

TZ

MarshLaw303
12-17-2010, 12:39
cubic tech will sell direct in quantities of 9m, 18m, 27m...

Way cheaper than using a middle man if you know what you want and need that much

-Tim

alienjeff650
12-21-2010, 23:35
Hi guy's
Please help!!
Is Seattle Fabrics still operating?
I placed an order with them on 22/11/2010 to ship some samples of ripstop to me in Australia, but I havent had any feed back from them???
Has any one else had trouble with these guys?
I cant get ripstop in OZ, so I would really like to get a few rolls from these guys.
Thanks
Jeff

MarshLaw303
12-23-2010, 08:33
I have had non-communication issues with Seattle before, and i didn't get a few small things in my order and after 1 call i never pushed it. They were nice and at the time the only place for 1.9oz sil but at their prices and history (with me, you and others) i don't use them anymore. I really like OWFinc.com and can recommend them 100%

-Tim

jbo_c
12-25-2010, 14:11
Another thumbs up for OWF. They are great whether over the phone or e-mail.

Jbo

turnerminator
12-25-2010, 14:31
Fabric supplies in the UK:

Fabrics n' stuff (my fave); http://www.fabrics-n-stuff.co.uk/

Point north/ Pro-fabrics;http://www.profabrics.co.uk/

Pennine outdoor; http://www.pennineoutdoor.co.uk/

Also in Germany- some really special fabrics- Extremtextil ; http://www.extremtextil.de/index_en.html

MAD777
12-25-2010, 15:05
Two thumbs up for OWF! I just received a box of goodies from them on Christmas Eve, everything from fabrics to roll goods to hardware. Great people!

trinni
01-25-2011, 09:59
Also in Germany- some really special fabrics- Extremtextil ; http://www.extremtextil.de/index_en.html

This is my source of choice here as I live in Germany. I love this place :)!

UberSquid
02-22-2011, 15:58
I wanted to share my great experience with

http://thru-hiker.com/materials/index.php

By far the cheapest source I could find and shipping was amazingly fast! I didn't expect to see my material until at least the end of the week but it was here on Tuesday! Great people to do business with and I'll be buying all my material from them in the future.

Jeremiah

MarshLaw303
02-23-2011, 09:12
Thru-hiker has some great stuff that you can't find anywhere else, but if it is the cheapest price you found you must have missed OWFinc.com, questoutfitters.com and backwoodsdaydreamer.com who also carry great stuff at much friendlier prices.

-Tim

trinni
03-03-2011, 12:16
Got my package from backwoodsdaydreamer (http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/) today. Fast service and nice fabrics -- will happily do business with anytime again! Thanks again Scott!

rjcress
03-04-2011, 12:45
To add to the collective reports of experience with different DIY vendors:
I just got my first order from http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/
Order came in a reasonable amount of time, well packaged, and was spot on what I ordered. Shipping price was fair, although on the higher side, IMHO ($20 on a $170 order, but I had 15 yards of bulky Insultex and 16 yards of nylon, so it was a bit bulky)
Quality of everything looks good so far. The ripstop that was listed as "2nds" looks like first quality to me. BWDD's $3 ripstop is awesome. Cheaper than JoAnn ripstop even after using a 1/2 off coupon, and in much more outdoor friendly colors.

Have also ordered from QuestOutfitters.com and Arrowhead Equipment (http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/apps/webstore/) and was pleased with the speed, quality and selection there as well. Shipping costs were better than BWDD, but I didn't order as bulky stuff... so maybe not a fair comparison.

I can happily recommend both BWDD, Arrowhead, and Quest to anyone looking for DIY materials. My only regret in ordering from either is that I should have ordered more of some things, since shipping makes it hard to justify ordering just a handful of inexpensive things like thread, cord, locks, shock cord, grosgrain, etc. Speaking of shock cord...
I just have to remember to always figure out how much shock cord I'll need, then order at least 4x that amount. Don't know how I go through so much shock cord. :)

Ol Grumpy
01-12-2013, 21:15
Broken Link...

The link to Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics in post #1 is broken...

OWF have a new website...

The OP might like to update it...

New link: http://www.owfinc.com/

MAD777
01-12-2013, 21:19
Broken Link...

The link to OWF in post #1 is broken...

OWF have a new website...

The OP might like to update it...

New link: http://www.owfinc.com/

http://www.owfinc.com/catalog.html#here
This is the correct link for OWF. They are great people to deal with. I've been buying materials there for many years.

SGT Rock
04-03-2013, 07:05
I figured I would add LightHeart Gear since they have the elusive sil-nylon in woodland cammo at a fairly light weight and good price: http://www.lightheartgear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=46

Ol Grumpy
11-04-2013, 20:23
Hi Guys,

I'd like to have a go at making some gear with Cuben Fibre.

I've found this supplier which sells Cuben by the Yard...

[URL]www.zpacks.com/materials.shtml[URL]

Does anyone know of other Vendors selling Cuben Fibre for DIY projects?

PS. I'm in Australia so they'll need to be happy shipping Internationally....

SimonMc
11-04-2013, 21:31
Hi Guys,

I'd like to have a go at making some gear with Cuben Fibre.

I've found this supplier which sells Cuben by the Yard...

[URL]www.zpacks.com/materials.shtml[URL]

Does anyone know of other Vendors selling Cuben Fibre for DIY projects?

PS. I'm in Australia so they'll need to be happy shipping Internationally....

Hey mate,

Cuben is sold in Australia by someone I know :rolleyes:

Tier Gear Cuben Fiber 25gsm (.74oz/yd) (http://www.tiergear.com.au/11/diy-supplies-other-gear/34-25g-m-75oz-yd-Cuben-Fiber-Fabric/)

Tier Gear Cuben Fiber 18 gsm (.51 oz/yd) (http://www.tiergear.com.au/11/diy-supplies-other-gear/55-18-G-m-51oz-yd-Cuben-Fiber-Fabric/)

Ol Grumpy
11-05-2013, 05:48
@simonMc,

It's nice to see that you are starting to get a bit more stock on your web site; but frankly if you are going to blow your own trumpet... the least you can do is be honest and up-front about what you are doing.... ie; blatant self-promotion...

I read your post earlier in the day when in it's original and complete form. Looks like you have edited it or been censored?? Fair enough too.

I'm looking for specific products... If you carry in stock what I'm looking for and your price is right, I may order from you... But I'm not going to go chasing after you... You'll need to find a way to keep me up to date of 'developments', news, etc...............

Debi Jaytee
11-05-2013, 06:07
this thread is awesome! I just recently took up thread injecting and there is limited fabric supply where I live. I'd found a couple of vendors through the forums but this is like winning the lottery!

SimonMc
11-05-2013, 06:46
@simonMc,

It's nice to see that you are starting to get a bit more stock on your web site; but frankly if you are going to blow your own trumpet... the least you can do is be honest and up-front about what you are doing.... ie; blatant self-promotion...

I read your post earlier in the day when in it's original and complete form. Looks like you have edited it or been censored?? Fair enough too.

I'm looking for specific products... If you carry in stock what I'm looking for and your price is right, I may order from you... But I'm not going to go chasing after you... You'll need to find a way to keep me up to date of 'developments', news, etc...............

I am not sure what you read earlier but that post has not been edited, it is how it was written by me originally. I thought it was pretty clear that I was referring to myself - poor use of humour perhaps.

Bic
11-05-2013, 07:20
I don't believe it's been mentioned yet, but www.topvaluefabrics.com had the best price on 1.9 ripstop and netting that I could find.....but you have to buy in bulk.

Zilla
11-05-2013, 07:22
I Also have had great experiances with DIYgeartsupply
http://diygearsupply.com/ ...:boggle:

Ol Grumpy
11-05-2013, 08:59
I am not sure what you read earlier but that post has not been edited, it is how it was written by me originally. I thought it was pretty clear that I was referring to myself - poor use of humour perhaps.

Perhaps it's a quirk of Tapatalk? I don't know???

The URL link to your website was in the post earlier today.... but is now not visible- that's what I call an 'edit'... Definitely not there now!!

But, maybe it's Tapatalk- stranger things have happened.... Here's a screenshot...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/05/ujybe5e9.jpg

Anyway, back to the topic...

Has anyone got any other good suggestions for Cuben Fibre suppliers?? : ear

PappyAmos
11-05-2013, 09:17
As a refresher, The Ultimate Hang list (http://theultimatehang.com/hammock-manufacturers/) appears to be recently updated. Several DIY references.

SimonMc
11-05-2013, 14:06
Ol Grumpy - I think you will find Tapatalk is the culprit there not me.

Anyway of the overseas suppliers of Cuben Zpacks probably is the most prolific user and they would be the cheapest, though postage can be expensive when you get above 3metres ordered, from memory.

ripstopbytheroll
01-07-2014, 21:30
I should've posted here a while ago, but oh well :). I wanted to mention www.ripstopbytheroll.com and quickly introduce myself. There is an intro thread in the vendor section, so I'll keep it short (https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=82965).

My name is Kyle and the basic premise behind ripstopbytheroll is to cater to the DIY guy, hobbyist, and cottage vendor by offering DIY fabrics at bargain wholesale prices with NO ORDER MINIMUM. We're able to do this by specializing in select DIY fabrics and processing/shipping in bulk ~once a week. As long as you can wait a couple days, you will save $$ on your DIY fabric purchases. I've also personally touched and in most cases sewn gear out of the fabrics that we offer.

I love talking with customers, so if you have a minute, check it out and let us know what you think. If you have colors/fabrics that you'd like to see, don't hesitate to tell us. We currently carry several varieties of ripstop, including SILNYLON, with an expanding selection to come in the next few weeks!

JToon
03-18-2014, 15:00
I dont know if this is the best place for this info, but here goes. I just ordered from tableclothsfactory.com and it was cheaper through their mobile website then their standard website. I dont know how long this will last but if anyone is thinking about doing some tablecloth hammocks you can save a little money this way.

Washburn
03-22-2016, 03:30
I managed to finally track down a local (i.e. South African) company that manufactures lightweight materials for the parachuting and paragliding industry. Could I ask someone who knows a lot more than I do (ahem, @ripstopbytheroll) possibly check out their range and advise as to what fabrics to get for a hammock and tarp?

www.gelvenor.co.za

Pretty please?

FredL
03-25-2016, 00:52
There is an aliexpress seller who I can recommend. Bilboa camping, they mostly do Silnylon, but also ripstop and non ripstop fabrics. Communication is good, shipping is free.

Actually their standard 40D silpoly is probably the best price you can find, 4$ per meter

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/all-wholesale-products/1112912.html

Firesong
03-25-2016, 09:08
I see 40d silnylon but not silpoly

FredL
03-26-2016, 14:42
I see 40d silnylon but not silpoly

In the discription of that one it seems to be labled as PU/silicone. Dont know if thats what you were looking for or not

I have it on order so maybe pm me if you want to know more