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ThisCarExcessHeight
04-23-2012, 12:07
Hey all,

I ordered my first hammock, a GT SB pro, and I love it, but I have a few questions about basic hammock setup.

First, this hammock is wide. I don't really have anything to compare it too, but I feel like it's wider than normal. When I lay in the center, the sides fold up around me like a tortilla, making it funky to lay in. I tried laying at a 30 degree angle, but this didn't help much either. What can I change in my setup to get it to lay flatter?

Also, how would I configure a tarp on this thing? My idea right now is to just hang another line above the mosquito net from tree to tree and string the tarp over that and stake it into the ground. Any suggestion that require less equipment and hardware?

Thanks a lot ya'll. This site rules!

Edit: I should also add that I do not yet have a sleeping pad to use in it. Just my sleeping bag. Maybe a pad will help in keeping it flat?

BigDog
04-23-2012, 15:22
I also have SB Pro and have a similar issue. Looking forward to hearing what others have to say. I did use my new GG pseudo 12x12 tarp in a diamond pattern on a ridgeline above the netting. I'll show a pic when I get home.

ThisCarExcessHeight
04-29-2012, 11:53
Bump! I've been looking at tarps, and was thinking a Guide Gear 11x11 would do the trick. Any other suggestions?

GrayDog
05-08-2012, 21:35
I have a SB Pro which I love.

To make it comfortable and repeatable, I added an adjustable ridge line on the outside of the netting. I started out at 83% that others recommended and dial in from there.

When I first got it my tendency was to set it up too tight. Not only did this make it harder to get a flat lay (lie?), it also made it more difficult to get out of.

My next step will be to move the ARL to the inside of the netting so I can hang an organizer, etc.

btw, the pockets in the netting are useless!

Regarding the tarp (WB Mamajamba), I currently hang a Zing-it! ridge line with continuous loop prusiks and #0 s-biners to attach the tarp. This allows me to easily center the tarp over the hammock.

I'm considering switch to a system like the Hennesy where the tarp attaches directly to the hammock suspension.

Hope this helps

titanium_hiker
05-09-2012, 05:28
FYI, a lot of people moved away from the 'tie the tarp to the hammock' thing because it makes it hard to have a taught tarp when you're bouncing around in the hammock. Tie the tarp to the tree for tautness. :)

TH

rigidpsycho
05-09-2012, 07:27
Yeah the SBPro is a very wide hammock. I tend to lay at a diagonal in my to avoid the sides closing in in me. As far as tarp to go with it, I use either a GT FUNKY FOREST TARP or my ATHH(the All Terrain Hybrid hammock by GT.)

BigDog
05-09-2012, 09:31
I have a SB Pro which I love.

To make it comfortable and repeatable, I added an adjustable ridge line on the outside of the netting. I started out at 83% that others recommended and dial in from there.

When I first got it my tendency was to set it up too tight. Not only did this make it harder to get a flat lay (lie?), it also made it more difficult to get out of.

My next step will be to move the ARL to the inside of the netting so I can hang an organizer, etc.

btw, the pockets in the netting are useless!

Regarding the tarp (WB Mamajamba), I currently hang a Zing-it! ridge line with continuous loop prusiks and #0 s-biners to attach the tarp. This allows me to easily center the tarp over the hammock.

I'm considering switch to a system like the Hennesy where the tarp attaches directly to the hammock suspension.

Hope this helps
How did you put the ridgeline on the outside of the netting do you have any pictures? And what length did you end up with on the ridgeline?
Thanks

ThisCarExcessHeight
05-09-2012, 13:46
okay thanks for the replies guys. so i can reduce the taco effect by just hanging it looser?

bamaman08
05-09-2012, 16:17
I have a Kelty Noah 12x12 and it covers my SBP perfectly without having to go diagonal (two trips so far in the rain and been dry both times).

My SBP is very comfortable with a diagonal lay. I too use an ARL inside the mosquito net which gets rid of the need of shock chord to keep the netting up.

Here's a thread where Buffalo Skipper goes through the ARL setup: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35208

I think there's a thread where Grizzly Adams gives a step by step process too.

Hope this helps.

GrayDog
05-09-2012, 16:24
FYI, a lot of people moved away from the 'tie the tarp to the hammock' thing because it makes it hard to have a taught tarp when you're bouncing around in the hammock. Tie the tarp to the tree for tautness.

Not a problem, my guy lines are self-tensioning. Zing-it! (love that stuff!) with silicone tubing.


How did you put the ridgeline on the outside of the netting do you have any pictures? And what length did you end up with on the ridgeline?

When I switched my suspension to Whoopie slings I installed a soft shackle around the suspension then made an adjustable ridge line from Zing-it! (did I say I love that stuff?) on the outside of the netting. Since the netting is so Gi-normous, I run the elastic directly from the loop around my marlin spike and back to the other loop on each end.

Kind of hard to explain. I'm camping this weekend so I'll try to remember to get some pix.

I'll try to measure the ridge line length as well

Buffalo Skipper
05-09-2012, 16:31
Sorry I have not chimed in earlier. I must have missed the post.

I do not consider the SBP to be all that wide. The Blackbird is 6" wider. But that is just my take.

I always use the side pull outs on the SBP. In the summer, it really makes the hammock roomy inside, and I have never had a problem with the "squeeze." During the winter, pulling out the sides too far make my UQ vent too much, cooling me off; so I pull out less in lower temps.

Make sure you are laying well on the diagonal. This helps reduce squeeze and makes for an incredibly comfortable lay. At 6'1" and 200 lbs, I have found this hammock to be a really nice lay.

Hope that helps. :)

BigDog
05-09-2012, 22:23
Not a problem, my guy lines are self-tensioning. Zing-it! (love that stuff!) with silicone tubing.



When I switched my suspension to Whoopie slings I installed a soft shackle around the suspension then made an adjustable ridge line from Zing-it! (did I say I love that stuff?) on the outside of the netting. Since the netting is so Gi-normous, I run the elastic directly from the loop around my marlin spike and back to the other loop on each end.

Kind of hard to explain. I'm camping this weekend so I'll try to remember to get some pix.

I'll try to measure the ridge line length as well
Gray Dog thanks for the explanation... I will be looking forward to the pics as I'm not sure what a soft shackle is. I have whoopie slings installed on my SBPRO as well and use a Superfly as my tarp.

GrayDog
05-10-2012, 06:39
I'm not sure what a soft shackle is.

Soft Shackle video by Opie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8qKc9fUMZg)

A soft shackle is just a rope version of a carabiner. It makes it easy to disconnect the ridge line if you need to.

ThisCarExcessHeight
05-10-2012, 09:44
Thanks for the insight all. Buffalo, do you have any pics of your side tie out mod? i didn't see any in your original mod post you linked to. this sounds like what i'm gonna do with mine. i try laying in the diagonal, but i still feel pretty scrunched up in the taco.

thanks man!

ThisCarExcessHeight
05-13-2012, 23:13
could someone elaborate on the 'hang looser' concept? I tried hanging this weekend with the idea of not having it as tight on the webbing, but I can't get it high enough off of the ground without the hammock tightening up. maybe my trees are too far apart? i'm using 14' nylon straps with the SB Pro. Sorry for all the replies guys but i am really stumped here!

titanium_hiker
05-14-2012, 07:53
could someone elaborate on the 'hang looser' concept? I tried hanging this weekend with the idea of not having it as tight on the webbing, but I can't get it high enough off of the ground without the hammock tightening up. maybe my trees are too far apart? i'm using 14' nylon straps with the SB Pro. Sorry for all the replies guys but i am really stumped here!

walk three paces, reach, hang. :)

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?p=301685#post301685

That should help TONNES. You might have to push up the straps with a stick or a trekking pole on the tree if the trees are further apart.

(dejoha as also got an app for that, if you care to google for it - does cost a nominal amount though.)

TH

willhang1
08-14-2012, 11:32
As for the "hang lose" question. I have the GT SB pro too. I have to hang the tree straps at least 7 feet up the trees with the two trees being 15 -18 feet apart. Then I adjust the hammock whoopie slings to give the hammock a nice "bow" in the center. The side tie outs are already on the hammock. I use shock cord to run out to a tent stake, pulled fairly tightly. This seems to be the best set up I've seen for a flat lay. I also use a warbonnet superfly on a seperate line with purrsick knots to adjust it to the hammock. Love this set up. I'll post some pictures soon.

BigDog
08-14-2012, 14:51
willhang I'd be very interested in seeing your setup as I have an SBPro as well as the superfly.

willhang1
08-15-2012, 11:16
Guess I had better snap some pictures and get them up here. This weekend should provide me some time.

willhang1
08-19-2012, 16:41
Cmplpwilt..........Check my gallery for set up pics

willhang1
08-20-2012, 04:34
Well the photos did not work. I posted a question under general hammock talk to see what I did wrong. I'll have them here soon.:shades: