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AllRiversSouth

06-27-2012, 20:56

I've been bit by the bug and wanted to seek guidance from the wisdom of the veterans here.

I am 6'3 and 240-245 and I have purchased a single nest a few years ago. I have been playing with it in the back yard I believe its a little small for my size so i am upgrading to a double. At my local outfitter I found a double deluxe, which is a little wider than the double next. So my question to the experienced, which nest would be the best choice for someone my size?

Thanks for your help in advance!:)

Fish<><

06-27-2012, 21:01

I personally would go with the larger of the two if I had to choose ENO. Im 6'2" an my next hammock is going to be the crinkle taffeta tablecloth that makes either of those two hammocks look small.

alrany187

06-28-2012, 14:33

I am 6'3 and 240-245 and I have purchased a single nest a few years ago. I have been playing with it in the back yard I believe its a little small for my size so i am upgrading to a double. At my local outfitter I found a double deluxe, which is a little wider than the double next. So my question to the experienced, which nest would be the best choice for someone my size?

The ENO SingleNest, DoubleNest and Deluxe DoubleNest are all the same length. I doubt that going to the wider nests will help you. But I could be wrong, it has happened before.

Regards,

Ellis

mattyg

06-28-2012, 17:02

The double deluxe has a seam running down the middle that can be irritating. Dream hammock makes a wide long open hammock totally custom if you can stand the wait

AllRiversSouth

06-28-2012, 18:43

Thanks guys...the seam down the center is good info. Maybe I am wrong, but I'm hoping a little wider hammock will give me a little more length when trying to lay flat at an angle. I was just unsure if the extra wide deluxe would be too much or just right. I'm strongly considering the double now.

Thanks for all your help and if you have anything else to add let me know!

AllRiversSouth

06-28-2012, 20:49

alrany187

06-28-2012, 22:31

I found the answer to my own question while researching the net. It came from Derek Hansen at theultimatehang.com. He stated; "In my own experience I’ve found that longer hammocks are better, all things being equal. If a hammock is really wide but lacks length, the extra width is wasted as you won’t be able to hang the hammock deep enough to take advantage of it. In other words, the wider the hammock, the longer it needs to be."

Considering what alrany187 stated about all of the hammocks being the same legnth, the wider dimensions of the deluxe without the extra length would be a waist. Since so many here have publicly proclaimed their love affair with the double nest, I'll give it a shot.

If the DoubleNest Deluxe would be a waste because it doesn't have the extra length, then so would the DoubleNest. It doesn't have the extra length either.

Fish said it and I am going to repeat it. Go with a hammock with more length. He suggested the crinkle taffeta and I just purchased one from DIY Gear made of polyester taffeta. The difference in width between my DIY and the Single Nest is only 6" more in the DIY, but the added length is what does the trick overall.

Derek and I had this conversation. I thought the extra 6" was what made the DIY more comfortable, but after a few nights in it, I realized it was the length that made the difference. Plus, you'll save money going the DIY route and it isn't that difficult to finish the hammock.

Regards,

Ellis

autolox

06-28-2012, 23:31

6'5" - 280 or so here - doublenest as the primary "lounger" - with diagonal lay, I find the doublenest to be plenty large enough.

My brother who is about the same size as you has spent a couple of nights in my doublenest and really felt it to be roomy...

AllRiversSouth

06-29-2012, 18:34

Thanks for the advise, going to pick up the double nest this weekend. I'm sure a custom DIY with the perfect ratio of length vs width would be the best option, but i think i will work up to that. Even if the double is not the perfect hammock for me it will be a good starting place and something I'll be able to share with a friend or just for lounging in the back yard. Again....thanks for your thoughts and opinions.

Rob In AL

07-01-2012, 20:14

I have a DoubleNest. At 5'10" / 330# and wide in the shoulders, I find it to be roomy and comfortable with minimal shoulder squeeze (diagonally there's little if any).

My $0.02. Hope it helps

dejoha

07-02-2012, 09:14

For tall folks (over 6 foot), I highly recommend a _longer_ hammock than the ENO series. ENO is a great hammock, but I find that talk folks can't get the best diagonal lay due to the minimal length (in comparison to other parachute nylon hammocks on the market).

Here's what happens when you increase the width but leave the length alone: the hammock begins to canoe, e.g., the side rails tighten creating a deep bucket seat. A lot of people who sleep in the double+ ENO hammocks tend to sleep in line or on a minimal diagonal (depends on how big/tall you are). Some people find the canoe lay comfortable; it is certainly more comfortable than the ground. The Speer hammock is designed to lay this way as well. The two major down sides are a tighter shoulder squeeze and leg hyperextension due to the banana effect.

If you can, try the hammock first. When I do my hammock demonstrations, I have multiple parachute hammocks on display for folks to try to get the right "fit." After a while doing this, I'm convinced that matching the person to the right hammock is a key factor in overall comfort. That said, I'll argue for any hammock over the ground. You'll often read about folks here on the forum who started with "Brand X" hammock and switch to "Brand Y" because it was "more comfortable." Amazing, but true.

I hope to have a post in the next few days where I can show the difference between all the parachute nylon hammocks side-by-side. It's a pretty amazing comparison.

AllRiversSouth

07-02-2012, 12:13

Thanks for the info..good stuff.. and the more I read, the more I realize I will probably end up with a DIY hammock that gives me the best lay.

In fact I was looking around in a fabric store today looking for material, stretching it and feeling the weight. When I looked up and saw a couple of women giving me "that look" I realized I may be at the point that I need some professional help. Thought they were gonna gang up and take my Man Card from me. From now on I will be doing all my fabric shopping on line!

Having said that....what material do you recommend as being the best?

AllRiversSouth

07-02-2012, 13:54

Just a note to the group....

I contacted ENO today just to see if they did custom work, The didnt seem very interested in the longer legnth theory and they recommended I try Grand Trunk. I noticed the dementions on their double was a foot longer at 10'5. I am hoping they are not measuring caribener to caribener, but if so, I guess I may just give these guys a shot instead. At least it will get me by till I go for the DIY.

Jiffiboy

07-02-2012, 14:02

Why don't you try MATT at ukhammocks he will do anything you want and his woodsmanx comes with a ridgeline adjustable footsag and best of all a midge net not a mosi net because our Scottish midges are incredibly small and ferocious and I can voice for it working for you as I have the woodsmanx double and am the same size as you!

AllRiversSouth

07-03-2012, 18:57

Jiffiboy, I checked out the ukhammocks and they were definitely impressive and one i may keep my eye on if i upgrade my noobie status.

As a final note on the thread I ordered a Grand Trunk Double today. The extra length advise was what I was looking for but when i called the company, it was the customer service that sealed the deal. Grand Trunk has a very knowledgable staff and super helpful. I cant say enough about my first impressions with the company in comparison to their competition.

Thanks for all your help!