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PocketDucks
09-24-2008, 15:34
Hey guys, I just noticed that DD Hammocks has some new products for their hammocks out including underblanket, tarps, and sleeping bag liners. Just an FYI: http://ddhammocks.com/products.php

Also does anyone know how their underquilts compare to others? If not, what is your favourite underquilt?

fin
09-24-2008, 16:14
Any specs on the Underblanket?

PocketDucks
09-24-2008, 16:28
Not that I have been able to find. This is all they have listed online:

Underblanket 72
Size: Fits all DD Hammocks
Colour: Olive Green
Weight: 1kg (approx)
Includes: Stuff/ compression sack

Currently Low Stock - Be Quick!

Hammock Underblanket designed by Ian Dent-Willoughby and made by Snugpak. Compatable with all DD Hammocks.

Ramblinrev
09-24-2008, 16:36
Do I smell another group buy forming?

fin
09-24-2008, 18:50
I have emailed the company looking for specs on their "Underblanket". If they are down-filled, I would be interested.

moski
09-25-2008, 11:51
I just had a quick glance at the site http://www.snugpak.com/.

No down in sight!
So i kind of doubt it's made of down.
Shame really, 'cause it's based in Europe for a change :D

fin
09-25-2008, 12:40
At 72 UK pounds, that equates to $133.49 US dollars. Add the shipping, you are talking over $150 US at least. Too much for a UQ made with man-made insulation, IMO. Too bad, I'd like to see what these are all about.

PocketDucks
09-25-2008, 21:06
Yeah I agree, if it is synthetic filling the cost is too much (too bad).

Anyone know if there was a product review by the group DD Hammock purchase?

stonecold
09-26-2008, 03:42
i have just received one of these and the top quilt and they wer 62 .i am very pleased with them ,maybe a bit heavy for some of the people on here who are keeping weight to a minimum.i knew the quality would be great from ths company though i already have a coule of sleeping bags.i would also recommend the westwinds ventile cotton range of clothing on the snugpak website ,i have the tempest and also have a home made customised smock made from ventile and in my eyes i the best material for outdoor clothing,does anybody else have anything ventile!

clwilla
09-28-2008, 19:00
1kg for a quilt. That's ridiculously heavy for a quilt.

I'd go with a JRB. Much lighter, and made with down.

PocketDucks
09-29-2008, 15:54
I wrote to DD Hammocks and Nick, who I think is the owner of DD Hammocks, replied with the following about the underblanket:

The size is 2.15m by 1.5m (at the middle/ widest point) and the fill is indeed synthetic. This is a quote straight from Snugpak "The fabric is Paratex Lite and we use our Softie 9 sleeping bag fibre for the filling." I hope this helps.

squantrill
09-29-2008, 16:16
I think you will find that this underblanket is the same as where being sold on bushcraftuk site. If it is I have ordered one ;) and this weekend seen one but havent used it. We jury rigged it to a hennessy. It felt warm enough when I tried it out. Although havent overnighted it yet. it is not down but the thing seemd quite warm it wasnt that heavy. and looked good. Its made by snug pack but designed by ian off the bushcraft forum I beleive
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/index.php/Skills-Basic/Hammocking-A-pictorial-Guide/Page-2.html

And I think this is said beast well it looks like theone I saw this weekend anyhow..

When I get to try it out ill let you know..

Mr Adoby
10-19-2008, 03:29
I tried the new DD Hammocks line just this weekend. Tarp, hammock and underquilt. Swedish autumn. Worked great! Warm, dry and cozy. Very pleased!

http://upload.snelhest.org/images/081018ddautumnSMALL.jpg

Only trouble was that the tapes stretched some and I slowly decended on top of my boots. But I knew about that possibility before-hand. Will the tapes stop stretching after being used a few times?

More pics here:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34761

moski
10-19-2008, 05:07
Ahh, another Swede showing up :thumbup:

I would replace them and go for rings or cinch buckle's.

And what do you say about this?

How many are we hanging here in Scandinavia? Would be fun to try and arrange a hangout this spring. Is anyone up for that? And by all means, try and get all of your friends that aren't already members to join HF.net!:D

Mr Adoby
10-19-2008, 05:17
Yes, I've seen many suggestions about replacing the tapes.

But if the tapes only stop stretching, then I really don't mind them. Works fine otherwise. But I'll most likely add karabiners as drip rings.

Chris.Biomed
10-19-2008, 05:20
More pics here:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34761

Yeah! A KellyKettle friend! :D It's neck and neck between the KK and and hammock as my favourite piece of gear... seriously, anyone that hasn't tried it yet don't know what they're missing!

moski
10-19-2008, 05:22
Yes, I've seen many suggestions about replacing the tapes.

But if the tapes only stop stretching, then I really don't mind them. Works fine otherwise. But I'll most likely add karabiners as drip rings.

There is a lot of time to gain on the switch.
Takes me seconds instead of minutes with the cinch buckle's.
I hate redo that bowline knot when doing the fine adjustments.

Anyway show up at Chris.Biomed's hangout and you will be convinced :D

Chris.Biomed
10-19-2008, 05:26
There is a lot of time to gain on the switch.
Takes me seconds instead of minutes with the cinch buckle's.
I hate redo that bowline knot when doing the fine adjustments.

Anyway show up at Chris.Biomed's hangout and you will be convinced :D

I've got my own personal PR agent! And I don't even have to pay him... what a deal! :lol:

Personally I'm going with the Monster Rope tie from Hitchcraft (http://www.hitchcraft.net/)

moski
10-19-2008, 05:54
I've got my own personal PR agent! And I don't even have to pay him... what a deal! :lol:

:confused: Won't i get any cash at all ?



Personally I'm going with the Monster Rope tie from Hitchcraft (http://www.hitchcraft.net/)
Hehe, what a thingy?
Sure looks like it's gonna work.
But they are kind of heavy aren't they?
weight: 2.9 oz (82 g)

Mr Adoby
10-19-2008, 06:08
There is a lot of time to gain on the switch.
Takes me seconds instead of minutes with the cinch buckle's.
I hate redo that bowline knot when doing the fine adjustments.

Anyway show up at Chris.Biomed's hangout and you will be convinced :D

I usually have plenty of time on my hand when I'm hammocking. My bow-ties are real easy to redo. And I really like to keep things as simple as possible when I'm outdoors. So I think I'll actually try to tie some plain old drip lines to the tapes first. Using paracord, perhaps. And see if that is enough to avoid getting wet under the tarp. Would really prefer to avoid even karabiners.

But I'm not impossible to convince. Just a little difficult. :rolleyes:

But has anyone else kept using the original tapes? And will they stop stretching? I suppose they must? :confused:

Chris.Biomed
10-19-2008, 06:08
Hmmm, slightly heavy, but at least I don't have to replace the stock rope.

Gailainne
10-19-2008, 09:20
I'm on my second DD hammock, I had a 1st generation model, and the tapes were terrible, they never stoppped stretching, so I replaced them with 9mm climbing rope, the static type, on the new one the first thing I did was replace the tapes, with the same rope, I use the Hitchcraft cleats, on both my hammock and my ridge line, no knots :D, great bit of kit.

BTW the new tarp is pretty good, 3mx3m quite quiet, 19 (I think tie loops), best of all its half the weight of the original about 650 grams.

I had them out this weekend down in Dumfries, it got quite wet and windy, going on gale force, they handled it with no problems, tarp was easy to shake off (get rid of surface water) before packing.

Stephen

Ramblinrev
10-19-2008, 10:58
if the tapes are nylon you can pretty much forget about them stretching out. Nylon has a very good memory. In other words... it can stretch and stretch and pretty much go badsk to the original length. That makes it excellent for fully dynamic uses, but it means they suck for static use pecause they repeat the same stretch over and over. If they are nylon replace them with polyester (first choice but pricier) or polypropolyne (stretches more but is cheaper and not as bad as nylon.)

fin
10-19-2008, 20:01
But has anyone else kept using the original tapes? And will they stop stretching? I suppose they must? :confused:

Replace the tapes. I have had both models of the DD, and those tapes are bad, and heavy. They also wick water, so in the rain they become sodden and draw water towards the ends of your hammock. If you replace the tapes with a decent climbing rope or polypropelene rope like the Clark has, you will save enough weight to make up for the weight of the hitchcraft rope ties.

I just switched over recently to the hitchcraft for my Clark lines, and once you figure it out, it's even easier than your bowties and much more secure and adjustable - around the tree and around the "button" on the rope tie, and it's locked in place. Then you can fiddle with it easily to get the right tension in your hammock. Yes, it's an extra piece, but you can leave it attached to your suspension lines and you will never have to worry about losing them. They do look big when you get them, but I really, really, really, really like the hitchcraft monster rope tie. It saves a lot of time, just make sure you follow the directions/get the ropes in the right directions per the instructions so that when you put a load on the device, it works as intended - very important.

It's very hard to explain, but these hitchcraft rope ties are awesome!

Mr Adoby
10-19-2008, 23:46
Replacement it is then...

But I'll still use the tapes around the tree to make certain I avoid damage to the trees.

I'll be hammocking in my own woods as well...

Will try first with the original tapes around the trees, and static rope to the hammock. Karabiners to attach and work as drip rings.

A.

alienjeff650
03-29-2010, 05:44
Hi guys, I tried the 2010 DD with the original tape and slowly went to the ground. So up to the local chandelry and got 2x 4m lengths of 6mm spectra rope then off to a nut and bolt place to get 4 stainless triangle rings to try out. I cut off 1m of the original tape chucked the rest (I also keeped that 1m theaded in the Hammock too). Threaded on 2 tri rings, used a blood knot to tie it, poked the knot into the hammock but not to far in and works great rock solid. But I will try and get some descent 25mm/1 inch seat belt webbing, I prefer that stuff jmp. For the loop on the spectra I used a bowline. And found that putting the rope around the rings twice before going between the rings made a better bite on the rope and still easy to adjust.
PS: On my other hammock I use 50mm/2 inch seatbelt webbing and its much easier to use and very easy to realese better than the spectra rope. I find the spectra rope a bit fiddly and hard to let go sometimes or am I getting to old.

PRKy
03-29-2010, 16:34
I think you guys may convince me to switch, but I've used my original webbing for about a year now. (I tie bow knots well!) As a true hammock newbie, when I first got my travel hammock I tied it up outside and started taking naps. It stretched considerably at first, but eventually stopped doing so.

I confess; if it is'nt broke, I usually don't fix it.

Since the webbing is flat I took Pringles lids (hope you guys have Pringles in Europe) from my kids snacks, and punched slits in them with my knife to match the webbing size. Just slide the lids over the webbing to where you want the rain to stop; they make excellent drip rings, cost nothing (if you have kids, you're already buying snacks), and they recycle alittle plastic.