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chiefams
11-13-2008, 16:36
Hi I am a newbie to the forums and I have been reading a ton of information, not quite on overload yet. haha. Anyways I want to replace to stock cord with something... any suggestions? Also how would I go about putting the new cord in? And finally where is a good place to find cinch buckles? Thanks for any help.
Ramblinrev
11-13-2008, 16:45
The process of switching over probably depends on what hammock you are modding.
angrysparrow
11-13-2008, 16:45
The only place that sells the popular cinch buckles is here (http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=118&parent=4).
From your previous post, is it safe to assume you are trying to use them with an ENO? If so, it's really easy to just rotate the stock cording in the end channel and untie it. Then, it's just a matter of replacing it with whatever you choose. Spyderline (http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d279000/e276768.asp) is what I've used in the past.
Here's a pic of a cinch buckle on an ENO -
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/eno_cc-buckle_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1069&c=member&imageuser=404)
chiefams
11-13-2008, 16:51
yes I am using an eno singlenest
FanaticFringer
11-13-2008, 17:14
Great move in switching to the cinch buckles. They rule. :cool:
Welcome to the site.
chiefams
11-13-2008, 21:40
Yes I thought that they would be a much better option for me. I have used the slapstraps for about 6 months now, and I just can't handle the stretch anymore and I would like to have much more options in adjusting the hammock. By the way... I have learned so much already from reading the posts on here. Thank you everyone for this wonderful information
Take-a-knee
11-13-2008, 22:05
The only place that sells the popular cinch buckles is here (http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=118&parent=4).
From your previous post, is it safe to assume you are trying to use them with an ENO? If so, it's really easy to just rotate the stock cording in the end channel and untie it. Then, it's just a matter of replacing it with whatever you choose. Spyderline (http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d279000/e276768.asp) is what I've used in the past.
Here's a pic of a cinch buckle on an ENO -
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/eno_cc-buckle_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1069&c=member&imageuser=404)
I wonder if those cinch buckles work okay with that one inch poly webbing Ed Speer sells?
Mustardman
11-13-2008, 22:09
There is another type of cinch buckle, which is even more secure than these, that is used in newer climbing harnesses. I am currently trying to find a supplier for these buckles, and if I can find someone who sells them I will let you all know.
http://www.singingrock.cz/article.asp?nArticleID=603&nLanguageID=2
angrysparrow
11-13-2008, 22:09
I wonder if those cinch buckles work okay with that one inch poly webbing Ed Speer sells?
Sure, the buckles seem to work fine with any 1" webbing.
Does anyone have any extra cinch buckles they want to get rid of? :) Shipping is a killer for just 4 buckles. Or, does anyone want to go in on a larger order?
angrysparrow
11-13-2008, 22:20
Shipping is a killer for just 4 buckles.
I've been successful in calling in orders to OnRope1 in the past and requesting USPS shipping. That might be your best bet.
Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow. :D
FanaticFringer
11-13-2008, 23:22
There is another type of cinch buckle, which is even more secure than these, that is used in newer climbing harnesses. I am currently trying to find a supplier for these buckles, and if I can find someone who sells them I will let you all know.
http://www.singingrock.cz/article.asp?nArticleID=603&nLanguageID=2
Cinch buckles are plenty secure.
Mustardman
11-13-2008, 23:35
Cinch buckles are plenty secure.
Perhaps, but I'm a climber and I get weird about weight-bearing stuff.
Plus, the way these buckles load is really handy - you don't have to feed anything through, just make a bight of webbing, slip it into the opening, and pull. They are also super-smooth to tighten.
kayak karl
11-14-2008, 02:25
Spyderline (http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d279000/e276768.asp) is what I've used in the past.
1/8 th inch?
angrysparrow
11-14-2008, 08:22
1/8 th inch?
For suspension purposes I actually prefer 5/32", but the 1/8" should be strong enough. It might require another loop in the buckle prussik, though.
Plus, the way these (http://www.singingrock.cz/article.asp?nArticleID=603&nLanguageID=2) buckles load is really handy...
Those buckles seem to be intended for use with webbing on both 'sides'. That isn't the typical application with the other cinch buckles, where cording is used from the hammock end channel or whipping to the buckle where it is attached with a modified prussik. You could certainly use them, but it would require changing the rigging a little bit.
GrizzlyAdams
11-14-2008, 08:29
For suspension purposes I actually prefer 5/32"
Ditto on that.
but the 1/8" should be strong enough.
Last fall I was using 1/8" Spyderline on my suspension, and it snapped at a knot. I was using what folks now call a single-line-suspension (SLS), integrated suspension line and ridgeline, and had it cranked up pretty tightly. Sat down per my usual "test this gently" after hanging, and pop! Down I went.
I think probably that the high tension put me over the edge on what the rope would take. I don't do that anymore, but I also use higher rated cord these days too.
Grizz
Just Jeff
11-15-2008, 18:39
I wonder if those cinch buckles work okay with that one inch poly webbing Ed Speer sells?
That's what I used with mine. No problems.
Re: the Rock and Lock buckles...lots of folks use biners on the tree end, so you only load the buckle once...everything else is just loosening/tightening to adjust. In that regard, the Rock and Lock would actually be more cumbersome to use. But if you don't use a biner so you're threading it for every setup, the Rock and Lock might be more convenient.
Re: the weight-bearing...the cinch buckles are stamped metal. You'd have to be snuggling with a grizzly to stress them, and I promise the 1" webbing will fail first. Never heard of a cinch buckle failing on a hammock yet. But I certainly wouldn't recommend you doing something you're not comfortable with...at the least, it would result in a poor night's sleep as you think about your suspension and that's not what hammocks are about!! :jj: