CLOSED: Anybody 'down' with this?

[Cannibal]

Hey there hammocking guys and dolls! With winter having set in and our thoughts turning to the often refered to "down goodness", I thought I might float the idea of a down group buy.

The idea was being discussed (improperly) on the JRB down sleeves thread. Stromcrow mentioned that he had recently made an order for 2 lbs. of down (pictures of completed gear are expected!) from featherind.com. Curiosity piqued, I send an email for costs/quantity. It was quickly pointed out that the logistics of a group buy of down would be, well, ugly. Then Pan chimed in with this:

Buy American .... Buy Hammock Forums... Buy your down from ED Speer... You'll be glad you did.... Quality service counts.
Pan
Seemed like some pretty good advice based on everyone's experience with Ed. I personally can't say enough good about him. He actually hand delivered a SnugFit to me in Hot Springs because he knew I was in a hurry to get back on the Trail; that is service! NCPatrick pointed out that he sells them in 3.1oz bags, so the logistics got a whole lot less ugly. :D

With hopes high and email opened, I sent him an inquiry. Here is his response:

"Good to hear from you Cannibal. There’s always a discount for quantity buys at Speer Hammocks! Normally on the 3.1 oz $30 bags of 900 down, we offer 10% off on orders over $300. For orders over $600 (20 bags), we offer 20% off! Here’s the way it works out:

1-9 bags regular price $30/bag
10-19 bags, 10% off—that’s $27/bag
+20 bags, 20% off—that’s $24/bag

Orders can be filled & shipped in 1-3 days. Delivery in US is via Priority Mail—expect 1-3 business day delivery.

Be sure & call to get the discounts. Let me know if you need any more info.

Happy Holidays….Ed"

So, I guess the question is; anybody want to order some down? I will be happy to organize, sort, and ship. No extra cost, I just ask that all buyers pay for the shipping of the down to them; priority mail seems the cheapest.

Obviously, 20+ bags is the target. If, we have enough interested buyers I'm down for 6, or maybe 8 bags. I'm assuming all are in the same holiday boat with me (no extra $$$), so I'm thinking this would be a good New Year Resolution; make more stuff! :D

[lenle01]

I'll take 3 bags. Let me know how and when.

[NCPatrick]

I'm up for 4, possibly 5 depending on whether we hit the 20 bag target.

[Dutch]

Dang he raised his price from $26. Not that it is a bad deal at 30, but I am glad i bought 7 at trail days when he gave another 10% OFF. You can pencil me in for 4 if you can get the 20. Will we have to pay shipping 2x? Once to you and then again to each person. it may nix the savings. I think brave people organize group buys.

[Cannibal]

I'll wait to get a consensus on the timing, but I'm thinking early to mid January.

[Dutch]

at this rate you should ask how much 40 bags are:laugh:

[Cannibal]

Dang! Looks like we are already close to the 20 bag threshold; cool! :thumbup1:

As my holiday gift to the forum, I'll eat the shipping to me. Just pay me for your share of the down and the shipping to you. Fair?

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 3
NCPatrick: 4
Dutch: 4

Don't think I won't be asking if we make 40! :D

[animalcontrol]

I'm interesed but "Christmas Poor" :(

[GrizzlyAdams]

I'm in for 6 bags.

Grizz

[NCPatrick]

Thanks Cannibal for volunteering for the group buy thang.

[Cannibal]

Thanks Cannibal for volunteering for the group buy thang.

Everybody has dues to pay, time for me to step-up. :D

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 3
NCPatrick: 4
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6

23 and counting!!!!!!!:thumbup:

[NCPatrick]

I agree with Dutch, how much discount do we get with 40 bags? :confused: Looks like we possibly could make that target.

[Cannibal]

I'm going to give this thread a full 24 to see where we sit. If, we hit 40 (or more) then I'll ask Ed, but I don't want to over reach and ask early.

[NCPatrick]

Good point. Hurry up and wait! :eek:

[thorwren]

I think Adam (Stormcrow) has enough...................I think............

[Cannibal]

I think Adam (Stormcrow) has enough...................I think............

NEVER! :D

He doesn't have to order; he was the inspiration behind the buy. But, glad to know the Boss is open to the idea of more. I justified it to my Boss by saying I was going to make her a nice, really thick, winter topquilt. I think she left work to go make room at the house for boxes of down. ;)

[fin]

If you were going to use this down to overstuff a JRB Katahdin quilt, how many bags would you get?

[Cannibal]

The Katahdin lists it's 'overstuffed' down weight at 21.3 oz (6.9 bags). Don't have a clue what you'd need to overstuff from there, but a nice round 8 bag order sounds good. :)

[Schneiderlein]

I'm in for 6.

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 3
NCPatrick: 4
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6

29! If we add the maybe numbers we are at 32! Then FishinFinn's bag or two for overstuffing (maybe)...

I'm officially giddy!:woot:

[lenle01]

I'll add in for 1 more bag. Total of 4 for me.

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 4
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6

30 confirmed bags.

[NCPatrick]

And one more for me, since we hit the 20 bag mark (condition met). Total of 5 for me.

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6

31 confirmed bags.

[Dutch]

Someone should warn AYCE that there may be a big rush on momentum90 in the near future. Also someone should warn the geese to stay the heck away from Ed.

[Cannibal]

Also someone should warn the geese to stay the heck away from Ed.

No worries, if he runs out there are FLOCKS of them around here. :D

[fin]

Man, as much as I'd love to get in on this, I just don't have the coin; and with Mt. Rogers coming up, my wallet is not going to cooperate. I'm still paying for two dog surgeries. :( You are making me jealous, though. I can't wait to see the results from this buy.

[LostCause]

Wow. count me in for 6.

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6

37 confirmed bags.

[animalcontrol]

Description of a HF addict...

"I'll be right there honey...I have to see how many bundles of down we are up to. Just put my plate down..."
sheesh :eek:

BTW, I might be in...

[Cannibal]

Description of a HF addict...

"I'll be right there honey...I have to see how many bundles of down we are up to. Just put my plate down..."
sheesh :eek:

BTW, I might be in...

That's funny; similar thing happened last night with the dog pictures. :lol:

Might be in is better than no way. You've got some time; like I said before, we are all hurting from holiday spending. This will be an order for the new year. Hope your dogs are doing well; that's a good priority!

[fin]

That's funny; similar thing happened last night with the dog pictures. :lol:

Might be in is better than no way. You've got some time; like I said before, we are all hurting from holiday spending. This will be an order for the new year. Hope your dogs are doing well; that's a good priority!

Dog (singular.) She had both rear ACL's repaired in the past two months. :scared: Our "Million Dollar Baby."

[gunn parker]

Hi
Would you be happy to ship to Aust?
If not thats cool, I understand :)
Gunn

[Cannibal]

Hi
Would you be happy to ship to Aust?
If not thats cool, I understand :)
Gunn

I don't know what's involved with international shipping. But, assuming it is only a matter of higher shipping expenses, that I'm passing along anyway, sure!

[Mrprez]

Put me in for 6 bags. Quilt and some down sleeves coming up! I am pretty certain Ed offers free shipping over a certain amount. I know we would have gotten free shipping on the tarp buy if we had sold a few more tarps.

[Cannibal]

We hit another milestone!

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6

43 confirmed bags; what's that, like 8 lbs?

What have I gotten myself into!? :scared: :D

[gunn parker]

I don't know what's involved with international shipping. But, assuming it is only a matter of higher shipping expenses, that I'm passing along anyway, sure!

Great, I'll take two then.
Thanks

[TiredFeet]

TeeDee and I are in for a 3 each, 6 total.

We were going to have to spring for it without the discount.

Sweet

[Just Jeff]

Man, I really don't need this. Really. Don't need more down.

It's just that the last of my down is in the torso underquilt prototype. And it's not perfect but it's good enough for a loaner, so there's really no reason to cut it up. So if I need another down project, I'll need more down. But. I. Don't. Need. More. Right. Now.

Y'all ain't good for my bank account.

FWIW, I think Ed increased his down bags from 3.0 oz to 3.1 oz when he upped the price.

[Take-a-knee]

I need a summer quilt. I'll take two bags.

[Cannibal]

Wheeeeeee! I guess we hit a nerve with this one! :D

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 3
TeeDee: 3
Take-a-knee: 2

53 confirmed bags!

Come on Just Jeff, you know you want in on this. :)

[fin]

I keep going to this post, just like Jeff. I will need down soon, but I just can't pull the trigger after getting a quilt, possum down hat and gloves, down booties, and almost everything else you guys keep throwing out there, on top of my other expenses already mentioned. But it is hard not to get at least 2 bags at that price, especially if there ends up being another price break for over 50! Heck, you might hit 75 at the pace this is going. I used to have a savings account before I joined HF.:laugh: But I guess money doesn't keep you warm at night.

[angrysparrow]

:laugh: But I guess money doesn't keep you warm at night.

It does if you spend it on down!

[Take-a-knee]

I keep going to this post, just like Jeff. I will need down soon, but I just can't pull the trigger after getting a quilt, possum down hat and gloves, down booties, and almost everything else you guys keep throwing out there, on top of my other expenses already mentioned. But it is hard not to get at least 2 bags at that price, especially if there ends up being another price break for over 50! Heck, you might hit 75 at the pace this is going. I used to have a savings account before I joined HF.:laugh: But I guess money doesn't keep you warm at night.

Inflation'll kill your savings anyway, get your gear while the gettin' is good.

[thorwren]

Adam is stuck out of town at work until Saturday night. He'll be crying when he sees he missed a party.

[Cannibal]

Yeah, but...he gets to go hiking for 10 days in GA in a week. Talk about jealous!

[fin]

I don't know how the economists can say that spending is down - they haven't seen my bank account! I think I'm personally propping up the economy!

When do you think the payment will come due? 1st week of the new year?

[Cannibal]

I'm looking at the first week of January to order. If we need to wait a couple of weeks beyond that, I can see waiting till the middle of the month. Any thoughts buyers? Anybody need an extra couple of weeks, or do I push the button on New Year Day (actually I doubt Ed will be working NYD, but you get what I mean :tongueup:)?

Beyond that and you have to suffer the thought of me rolling around semi-naked in a big ol pile of unpaid-for down. :scared::lol:

[stoikurt]

I don't know what's involved with international shipping. But, assuming it is only a matter of higher shipping expenses, that I'm passing along anyway, sure!

Something for Cannibal and Gunn to be aware of.

I purchased some down from Canada last year. Since it is an animal product and it is shipped over international boundaries it is possible that it could get checked at Customs. Mine was not checked but they warned that if it was checked that could add some extra cost to the shipping (something like $40 but I don't remember for sure).

I'm pretty sure you will have to declare what it is when shipping. Just wanted you to know.

[Cannibal]

Something for Cannibal and Gunn to be aware of.

I purchased some down from Canada last year. Since it is an animal product and it is shipped over international boundaries it is possible that it could get checked at Customs. Mine was not checked but they warned that if it was checked that could add some extra cost to the shipping (something like $40 but I don't remember for sure).

I'm pretty sure you will have to declare what it is when shipping. Just wanted you to know.

Thanks for the heads-up stoikurt! I've been poking around a bit since gunn first posted and haven't found anything that tells me FOR SURE that down is a problem. Fur, I've found a 1,000 pages about. Down OTH has been somewhat elusive.

Your call gunn. My guess is that you would be presented with a bill prior to delivery, if it's checked.

[fin]

Wrap a small piece of fabric around the bags, tape it together and declare it as "down booties." :D It may work if they scan the package.

Not that I would suggest doing anything against any laws.... Just sayin....

[gunn parker]

Your call gunn. My guess is that you would be presented with a bill prior to delivery, if it's checked.

I seem to remember something about Ed shipping down to Aust with out any trouble, but I am not sure.

Let me see what I can find out.

[slowhike]

You can put me down for 3 bags Cannibal.

[FreeTheWeasel]

You can sign me up for 6 or 7 bags. I need to make a winter quilt and I don't like being cold!

So, when planning baffle stuffing, does it make sense to plan as though the down is 800 fill even though Ed advertises it as 900? Compromise and call it 850? I'm planning a RedRiverGorge (possibly with differential baffles if I can figure out how to do it) at 48x72x3 inch. I might go for 4 inch baffles depending on how my cold winter testing goes.

FreeTheWeasel

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 3
TeeDee: 3
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6

62 confirmed bags!

[Just Jeff]

When down is rated it has been completely dried and allowed to loft for a long time (like 24-48 hrs, IIRC). If these are the conditions you'll be using your down in, use the given fillpower for your calculations. If you're going to be using it in the real world :jj: then that's when you add an overstuff. If you use 800fp instead of 900fp that's really all you're doing...adding more down than the given fillpower would require.

IMO this gets more important as the fp increases b/c the down is more gossamer, so humidity and the weight of the fabric affects it more. I doubt any down is 900fp in the field. That's why some folks say there's really no difference between 750fp and 900fp when it's used. I wouldn't agree with that w/o seeing testing results, but I agree with the principle behind it. Still...best to start with the highest quality and overstuff than to start with low quality to begin with. Especially when Ed's 900fp price is about the same as 800fp stuff elsewhere...and this way we get to buy from Ed.

I may be able to buy some after the new year. Let me discuss with the wife a couple big expenses we'll have in January and I may be in for 4-6 bags. Would be nice if we could get a bigger discount for the number of bags we're getting, but at some point we're approaching Ed's cost and we want him to make a profit as well...I doubt he has much more mark-up to give up.

[dually]

I am in for three and
will go 50-50 shipping cost from Ed to Cannibal

Merry Christmas
John

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 3
TeeDee: 3
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3

65 confirmed bags!

Just Jeff-I didn't add 4 for you because you said you were still in decision mode. Just wanted you to know I didn't miss the post. That January car payment can wait can't it? :p

All I can say is WOW! I never would have thought we would be pushing the 70 mark, I figured 40 if we were lucky. I'll shoot Ed an email, but I suspect Just Jeff is right about getting close to cost. I'm not getting my hopes up too high for much more of a break, but I'll ask.

Serious question here. For those of you that have ordered down from Ed in the past, how much space does say, 6 bags take? I'm serious! If everybody on the list, plus all the folks on the fence order, I'm looking at close to 16 maybe 17 lbs of down arriving at my house!:scared:

I've been reminded that one should always be careful what one wishes for!

Geeez, I'd absolutely LOVE to see what 20 lbs of down looks like; still having a difficult time wrapping my little brain around that one.
:D

[Schneiderlein]

The bags from Ed are pretty big. My last order was 5 bags, and I still have the box sitting here. It was about 18"x12"x12".

[NCPatrick]

If everybody on the list, plus all the folks on the fence order, I'm looking at close to 16 maybe 17 lbs of down arriving at my house!:scared:


But what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks? :laugh:

I ordered 7 bags once and it came in a medium sized box. Pretty light though: 21+oz. + the weight of the box. Ed threw in a silnylon stuff sack with the order (instead of his book).

[Cannibal]

Not the weight that concerns me just what that weight translates to in square footage; forget cubic inches at this point. I mean, I got a big basement.....but dang!

I'm going to build "Fort Cannibal" out of down boxes; no moat! :scared: :lol::lol::lol:

[Cannibal]

OK. I'm both relieved and disappointed. :):(

I just got off the phone with Ed. I'll get this part out of the way; there is no additional discount for our order quantity. Ed said that he is already close to cost on the deal. Still a good deal, so no reason to be bummed.

Here's the part that I have mixed emotions about; Ed said he can ship directly to each buyer for the cost of priority mail, which is what I was going to pass along anyway. This is great and further reduces logistics problems; basically just makes me a down broker for a day. However, that means I don't get to see what all that down looks like in one place :crying. Someday.

He is going to email me the costs involved with the shipping. Again, same thing we were already going to do. Gunn, he didn't forget you either and is working up the international costs for you. When I receive it, I'll post it here. I promised him a spreadsheet with names and shipping address, beyond that Ed will be handling the shipment of down directly to each of us.

He laughed out loud when I told him we currently have 65 bags spoken for. :D He said that would almost clean him out; don't know why I find that so cool. He did say he would have no problems at all filling the order within 2 days if we ordered today, so the fact that we will be ordering after the first means that the turn around will be really quick since he has been warned. Don't call Ed today, he's loading down. :lol::lol:

As soon as a date is decided (still haven't gotten much feedback on that) I'll blast out some paypal requests. Please DON'T FORGET to put your name & shipping address on them.

This is a first group buy organizer position for me, so all you old timers that have been through this are more than welcome to offer advise on how to best handle the collection of funds. A couple day window for payment then drop, an open window between now and ordering, day of ordering? What works best and least painful in your experience. I want everyone smiling about this order and nobody worried about their money or down. Any guidance welcome.

[jeffjenn]

If Ed ships to individuals will this create a tax problem for him taking the $$$ from you but shpping to his own state? I have no idea just thought it might be something that could come up??

[Cannibal]

Didn't think about that. I just assumed he didn't want to have to process multiple payments when he didn't suggest the funds going straight to him. I'll be having at least another couple of conversations with him, I'll ask. Thanks.

[Schneiderlein]

As far as I'm concerned, let's put the order in ASAP. The Christmas break would be the perfect time to make a new quilt with the kids distracted by their new toys...

[Cannibal]

As far as I'm concerned, let's put the order in ASAP. The Christmas break would be the perfect time to make a new quilt with the kids distracted by their new toys...

What about that part they put on the boxes for moms and dads: "Some assembly required"? :lol:

[lenle01]

I can't wait to see the paypal request! So exciting...... What will I make?

[Schneiderlein]

What about that part they put on the boxes for moms and dads: "Some assembly required"? :lol:

That's for mom to figure out. Dad has to assemble his own presents!:D

[TiredFeet]

Is it still possible to up TeeDee's and my buy from 3 each to 4 each for a total of 8?? If so then we would like to do that.

[Cannibal]

Is it still possible to up TeeDee's and my buy from 3 each to 4 each for a total of 8?? If so then we would like to do that.

Haven't you heard? Anything is possible, some things are just more probable than others. In this case, VERY probable. :D

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3

67 confirmed bags!

[NCPatrick]

As far as I'm concerned, let's put the order in ASAP. The Christmas break would be the perfect time to make a new quilt with the kids distracted by their new toys...

I'm perfectly happy to wait until the beginning of 2009 with lots of Xmas related expenses to manage, but I'm fairly flexible on that point.

What is the consensus on timing?

[Terraplane]

If it's not too late, I'd take 6 bags. I'm open to when we get it.

Terraplane

[headchange4u]

Sorry to come in late on this. Been trying to get my house back in order.

I'd be up for probably 4 bags...maybe more.

I agree that waiting until the first of the year may be better so that all the holiday expense can be gotten out of the way.

[Cannibal]

I was wondering where you were HC4U. I know how low a resistance to group buys you have. :D

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 6
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 6
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4

77 confirmed bags!

Any bets on if we break that triple digit barrier? I think if all the folks who threatened to get on board and the folks, like me, who may add more to their order actually step-up we will break 100 pretty easy. This is just fun! Where is that **** dancin banana when you need it?:D

I'm joking Hooch, don't even think about it. :glare:

[Schneiderlein]

[...] actually step-up we will break 100 pretty easy.

Wanna make this a contest? I'm good for two more.

[Cannibal]

Wanna make this a contest? I'm good for two more.

You are a very bad person! :glare: I'll see your 2, but that's my limit. :)

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 4
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4

81 confirmed bags!

[lenle01]

How many bags did Ed say he had in stock?

[Cannibal]

How many bags did Ed say he had in stock?

He didn't give an actual number, just that this would just about clean him out. But he said he can get more pretty quickly, so I'm sure there is nothing to worry about.

Why? You want more don't you? Resistance is futile!

[lenle01]

Alright...Alright The invisible hand keeps twisting my arm! Dang it! 1 More bag. Total of 5 bags. :D

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 5
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4

82 confirmed bags!

Ed Speers is either going to hate us or love us, I'm hoping for the latter.

[angrysparrow]

Ed Speers is either going to hate us or love us, I'm hoping for the latter.

You should tell him a condition of the order is that he has to join the forum himself!! :)

[Cannibal]

You should tell him a condition of the order is that he has to join the forum himself!! :)

I know right? I wonder why that is, maybe we should set up a sub-forum for discussing minerals while hanging. Bet that would get him over here, although he'd probably be lonely in that sub-forum. :bored:

[NCPatrick]

I'll up mine one bag to 6.

Y'know, Ed really has to thank Pan (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=88847&postcount=26) for this order too.

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=88847&postcount=26

[Cannibal]

Y'know, Ed really has to thank Pan (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=88847&postcount=26) for this order too.
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=88847&postcount=26

No doubt!
Thanks for pointing it out to us Pan.

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 4
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4

83 confirmed bags!

[pure_mahem]

I really wish I could get in on this but I'm one of those out of work people at the moment. From experience with the PanSaver Bags Group Buy it looks like you are doing fine. PayPal is really useful for keeping track they send you an email every time you get funds paid. I just opened a new email folder and checked the emails with my list. What's key is to wait until all the funds are sent B4 buying this way your not left holding the bag of down so to speak. Turns out you got off easy on the part of organizing the shipping though Cannibal. Good Luck and have fun! I'ld love to see Ed's face when he get the final order number.

Make him join the forrum Cannibal! "Hey Ed I've gotta order for 100+ bags of down if you join hammockforums.net, I couldn't stop laughing about the minerals subforum! If it was a room I could just see Ed standing there in the dark with a head lamp on and here a echo of water dripping from way off in the distance. hilarious! Again Best Wishes with the Group Buy!

[mike_ff]

So a quick question. How many bags for 1/2 or 3/4 underquilt? Then I can start begging the wife. I mean after all I had to sell some organs to buy her a new camera that allows her to see the moon.

[Schneiderlein]

So a quick question. How many bags for 1/2 or 3/4 underquilt? Then I can start begging the wife. I mean after all I had to sell some organs to buy her a new camera that allows her to see the moon.

All depends on what temperature you want to be comfortable at. I have a 54" long quilt that I've used in the lower 20's comfortably with a little less than 8oz of down, but it all depends on how cold you sleep. For anywhere around freezing temperature, I'd say go for 2 bags if you are a warm sleeper, gram weenie and just fine roughing it, and go with 3 otherwise.

[Just Jeff]

Make sure everyone includes their HF username in the PayPal submission so you know who to check off the list.

[peanuts]

in case people don't know, ed has his own hammock forum at yahoo....

[angrysparrow]

in case people don't know, ed has his own hammock forum at yahoo....

That's certainly worth mentioning. I think most of the regulars here are aware of that, but Yahoo! groups are kind of archaic now. :rolleyes:

[stormcrow]

WOW. and WOW.

You are all going nuts. Now I feel a little guilty about not buying American.:eek:

I will next time. I promise. It was just such a good deal that I could not pass it up. Even with the discounts you are all getting from Ed I think I came out better...if not morally then financially ..:D Even though I had to buy so much of it at once....almost every ounce of down has a project set up for it.

This is great! I dont see all the down that people are buying...What I see is all the MYOG stuff about to flood are forum (WITH PICS). YAY.



Beyond that and you have to suffer the thought of me rolling around semi-naked in a big ol pile of unpaid-for down. :scared::lol:

Wow, man, it will take you weeks to get all that down out of...well, nevermind. Too funny!

I am sitting in a Holiday Inn right now! :(

Adam

[slowhike]

I still get the posts from Ed's yahoo hammockcamping group in my email, but there's not been much happening there for a while.
I wish Ed could slow down from his "other job" (geological consultant) & join us here, but he has explained that he's afraid that w/ his limited spare time, some may feel that he was ignoring their questions & comments because he would be limited on computer time here.
So he just doesn't want to start something that he can't give the attention it may deserve at times.
I think he needs to retire from geological stuff & just do hammocks:)

[stormcrow]

I wish Ed could slow down from his "other job" (geological consultant) & join us here, but he has explained that he's afraid that w/ his limited spare time, some may feel that he was ignoring their questions & comments because he would be limited on computer time here.

As great as THIS group/family is, I think we would understand if he was not on here all the time and I am sure we would LOVE to have ANY imput he would share with us. Just sayin...:D

Adam

[slowhike]

As great as THIS group/family is, I think we would understand if he was not on here all the time and I am sure we would LOVE to have ANY imput he would share with us. Just sayin...:D

Adam

I agree. If you ever meet Ed, you'll no doubt enjoy talking to him.
He's a wealth of information... & not just on hammocks. It's amazing, all the jobs he's had & places he's been!

[Dutch]

How big of a box is 100 bags of down? More importantly how big is your house Cannibal? How big is your mailtruck? My box of 7 bags was about 24 x 24 x16 and it was fairly compressed. So let's see that is 9216 cubic inches for 7 so that is 1316.57 cubic inches for 1 bag times 100 equals...hmmm.....equals.....:scared::eek::scared: :eek:. Holy crap "I think we need a bigger boat" You don't think Ed would be willing to send them individually do you?

[gunn parker]

Hi, I sent Ed an email enquiring about shipping to Aust with customs and all, he said no worries he does it all the time, so that's all good for me then :)

[angrysparrow]

You don't think Ed would be willing to send them individually do you?

If you look back to post #62 (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=89044&postcount=62) of this thread, it seems Cannibal already has that worked out with Ed. Direct shipment from Ed to each recipient.

[Dutch]

Thanks AS this thread is moving very quickly and it is so busy this time of year.i only have been able to read the last couple pages. Anyhow I need to increase my order from 4 to 6. Just don't anyone tell my counselor about this. He thinks I am on a road to recovery and my even decrease my meds.

[I Splice]

I'll take 5 bags.

Anytime between now and the end of January is fine with me.

Cannibal -Thanks for putting this together.

Bob S

[gunn parker]

If you look back to post #62 (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=89044&postcount=62) of this thread, it seems Cannibal already has that worked out with Ed. Direct shipment from Ed to each recipient.

Yes I sent my email to Ed yesterday and it was not until this morning I saw that Cannibal had been in contact with him.
cheers

[Cannibal]

Thanks AS this thread is moving very quickly

Isn't it? I'm genuinely concerned I've missed a bag or two, so I keep going back to the beginning and reading every post just to make sure. Kind of like when I was trying to figure out all that math on the original Bridge Thread; I still suffer night terrors as a result! :scared:


Cannibal -Thanks for putting this together.
Always happy to help feed that downy addiction (see below). :D

Just don't anyone tell my counselor about this. He thinks I am on a road to recovery and my even decrease my meds.

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5

90 confirmed bags!

Wonder if we get one of Ed's books for all this? :lol::lol:

[stormcrow]

There has to be a 12 step program out there for this,

All this talk about "I need another BAG!", and councilors, and addiction, could leave room for interpretation! At least we are participating in group therapy and have admitted we have a problem...er, hobby....I mean, yeah, I guess I have a problem...maybe.

Yay I am back home from my work trip and I will be up late tonight working on gear.

Adam

[mike_ff]

Put me down (get it,thats funny) for 3 bags.

I just had a vision of a quilting group like my mother use to have over every week, except I see a group of men trying to work the sewing machine and cussing about all the feathers in the room.

[gunn parker]

Hi
Is there a cut off date for adding more bags? I am waiting for a cash bonus to come in next week before I up my order.
Thanks

[dually]

At least you guys-n-gals know how to sew.
I ‘aint-never-done’ anything like this before.
Hope the DIY threads offer lots of step-by-step instruction.
I assume a shop vac is not the best method to blow down into a quilt.
John


Thanks Jeff
Ah cool >bug net< to keep it under control.
So glad to hear/see that a shop vac works.
New to DIY down here and so much to sort out.

[Just Jeff]

I use a shop vac for mine.
http://www.tothewoods.net/StuffingDown.html

[Take-a-knee]

I use a shop vac for mine.
http://www.tothewoods.net/StuffingDown.html

This works like a champ! Thanks Jeff. I used this technique when my wife shortened my JRB Nest, it works great. Now I have not one but two Rock Wrens to shorten.

[Cannibal]

"I need another BAG!"
Adam

Is that an order? Sure you don't want 2? :tongueup::D

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5
mike_ff: 3

93 confirmed bags!

Yeah, we need to set some kind of a cut-off date. I propose next Saturday or Sunday (27th or 28th). Anybody have a counter offer or agreement?

[NCPatrick]

Yeah, we need to set some kind of a cut-off date. I propose next Saturday or Sunday (27th or 28th). Anybody have a counter offer or agreement?

I second the motion (aren't I all fancy) to cut off Sunday, December the 28th...

[lenle01]

Dec 28th Sounds good maybe I'll get some Christmas cash from Granny and be able to buy another bag!

[slowhike]

If you make Dec 28th the cut off for getting in on the order, will you be setting a different date to have payments in your "Pay Pall"?

[Cannibal]

Yeah, there is going to have to be a pay by date so that all aren't waiting on a few. My impression is set the pay by date a day or two prior to the actual order. Open to suggestions, but we have to decide on a firm order date first.

[Just Jeff]

PayPal can take a couple days to post depending on what payment option you choose. Give that many folks will wait until the 1st to pay, then add a few days, it seems like 5-7 Jan should be the earliest due date...maybe 5 Jan due and 7 Jan order?

[Cannibal]

Executive Decision Time:

Agenda Item One (1):
The 28th of December has been moved and seconded as the order cut-off date. There were no dissenting opinions; motion passes!
Last Day To Order Some Downy Goodness: Sunday, December 28th 2008

Agenda Item Two (2):
One of our most eldest of elders has suggested a payment period beginning after the New Year. I will send out the PayPal invoices on, or before, Friday, January 2nd. The payment period will remain open until Tuesday, January 6th. This will remain open for discussion today.

Agenda Item Three (3):
The Big Tamale; the order. This will take place two (2) days following the final payment date TBD. As it stands right now, the order would be made early in the day on Thursday, January 8th. I am hopeful this will allow our down to arrive (especially for you East Coasters) on Saturday. This giving us time to prepare our down receptacles for stuffing in the morning while waiting on the person in blue to show-up at our doors. This Item will pass automatically when Agenda Item Two is passed.

Time for some PMs. Everybody on the list needs to please send me a PM including your HF Username, real name (only Ed and I will know the truth; your secret is safe), email address, and shipping address. Those of you that will not be using PayPal, I will accept money orders or cashier's checks, no worries. Just, send me a PM and I'll send you my mailing address.

Please double check the list! This has been a very active thread and I am concerned that a bag may have been missed.


Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5
mike_ff: 3

93 confirmed bags!

Am I missing anything? Only had half a cup of coffee so far this morning. :sleep:

[Buckeyebuck]

I'm getting in on this one. I'd like 4 bags please. PM being sent. Thanks for taking-on this project!

[Cannibal]

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 3
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5
mike_ff: 3
cincinnatibuck: 4

97 confirmed bags!

There has to be somebody out there that needs/wants 3 bags of down. Less than a week of down shopping left! A triple digit order would just be too cool. :cool:

[dually]

Three is an odd number make it four total.
John

PM Sent

[Cannibal]

Three is an odd number make it four total.
John

PM Sent

Adding another. Only 2 to hit 100.

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 8
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 8
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 4
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5
mike_ff: 3
cincinnatibuck: 4

98 confirmed bags!

[Schneiderlein]

You are a very bad person! :glare: I'll see your 2, but that's my limit. :)
I thought you were done, Cannibal, and then I read:

Only 2 to hit 100.
I'll get one more if you do!

[Cannibal]

I thought you were done, Cannibal, and then I read:

I'll get one more if you do!

I can't believe I'm even considering it. I may be able to justify it, but I'm gonna have to stew a little.

Do I really need 9 bags of down? The down hat thread may become more relevant to me, but do I really need 9 bags? Hummmmm.

[Schneiderlein]

but do I really need 9 bags?
No, but you know you really want them!:D

[Cannibal]

No, but you know you really want them!:D
Again, I must say:

You are a very bad person! :glare:

Fine! One bomber's hat coming up for Cannibal.

Currently:
all lowball figures to be conservative.

Cannibal: 9
lenle01: 5
NCPatrick: 6
Dutch: 6
Grizz: 6
Schneiderlein: 9
LostCause: 6
Mrprez: 6
gunn parker: 2
TiredFeet: 4
TeeDee: 4
Take-a-knee: 2
slowhike: 3
FreeTheWeasel: 6
Travels with Samantha: 4
Terraplane: 6
headchange4u: 4
I Splice: 5
mike_ff: 3
cincinnatibuck: 4

100 confirmed bags! YIIPPEE!

Schneiderlein, I went ahead and added your extra bag on the list too. :tongueup:

[Schneiderlein]

Schneiderlein, I went ahead and added your extra bag on the list too. :tongueup:

Thanks, Cannibal.

[Cannibal]

Well, I sure appreciate all the 'thank yous' I've received, buuuuuuuut my life just got real easy and so did yours...I think. :)

Ed has offered a deal that I just can't pass-up. I've copied the email below, but here is the jist of it. Anybody who wants to order some down via hammock forums has until January 31, 2009 to place your order.

You will need to do it by email to the Speers; the deal is not available thru the website ordering page.

In that email you will need to specifically mention that you are part of the "Hammock Forums Group Buy" and that you are qualifying for the 20% discount.

Also, include your quantity and shipping address. Be nice and put your email address in the body too, just to make Ed's life easier.

The Speers will then send a PayPal invoice directly to you. Buyers wanting to pay with check or MO can mail their orders directly to Ed with payment. Just be sure to include the fact that you are part of the "Hammock Forums Group Buy".

Here is the email I received:

"Cannibal,

Thanks for your efforts in organizing the down orders on the Hammock Forum—you’ve done well! As we discussed, Speer Hammocks is offering Hammock Forum members 20% off our 3.1 oz bags of 900 fill down—that’s $6 off the regular price of $30, making the price of each bag only $24! Of course this assumes you have arranged the purchase of at least 20 bags, which you seem to have greatly exceeded already. To help you with the process, Speer Hammocks is willing to take the individual orders & ship to each customer. In other words, we’ll run the special 20% discount from now till Jan 31, 2009. But Hammock Forum customers must email us to place orders—don’t place your order online as the special discount will not be available there. In your email, be sure & mention the special 20% discount & include your full shipping address. We’ll send a PayPal email invoice which can be paid via your credit card. Anyone wishing to pay via check can mail their order. Speer Hammocks won’t advertize this discount, so it will only be available to Hammock Forum members. So all you need to do Cannibal is let the Forum members know that they can order anytime between now & Jan 31.

Deliveries to North Carolina addresses will incur state taxes, which are 6.75%. Deliveries to other states will not need to pay any state taxes. We will add S&H charges to each order. Shipping within the US is via USPS Priority Mail—expect 2-3 business day delivery. Rates are: 1-2 bags, $6.50; 3-8 bags, $8.50; 9-11 bags, $11.50; 12-15 bags, $13.00.

International shipping is via USPS Priority Mail International—expect 6-10 business day delivery to most countries. We ship to most but not all countries and rates vary greatly, so email us for a quote. Although we seldom have problems, Speer Hammocks cannot guarantee overseas delivery; international customers pay insurance, customs duties & assume all other responsibility in the event of non-delivery.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions…..Ed

Speer Hammocks Inc
Quality Hammocks for Adventure Camping
3947 Mudcut Rd
Marion, NC 28752
828.724.4444

www.SpeerHammocks.com
[email protected]"


Just how cool is Ed Speers? Those of you that have already put a check or MO in the mail to me (shouldn't be many because I haven't even told you the shipping price until now) just let me know. When it arrives I will either shred it or return it to you; just tell me your preference. I'm sure Ed appreciates the business and I want to offer one last "thank you" to Peter Pan for suggesting that we go thru Ed. Thanks Pan!

Oh, I almost forgot. Schneiderlein, you cost me an extra $2 for shipping by goading me into that extra bag. Revenge will be mine! :laugh:

[Schneiderlein]

Oh, I almost forgot. Schneiderlein, you cost me an extra $2 for shipping by goading me into that extra bag. Revenge will be mine! :laugh:

Cannibal, it's actually $3, which clearly justifies getting 11 bags instead of 9, wouldn't you agree?

[Cannibal]

Cannibal, it's actually $3, which clearly justifies getting 11 bags instead of 9, wouldn't you agree?

Don't even try that! Now I've got an extra 20 days or so to order more if I need it. I'm gonna have to put myself in time-out before I end-up with down carpet. :lol:

[gunn parker]

I was going to have a little boast and order another bag but now we are going through Ed there is no need to boast about the additional bag I want :)

[Cannibal]

I was going to have a little boast and order another bag but now we are going through Ed there is no need to boast about the additional bag I want :)

That makes 101! :D

[slowhike]

I think that will make things easier Cannibal. Thanks for getting this ball rolling!!!

[Lost]

I have managed to ignore this thread for a week, then I just had to open it!
okay, let's keep going. I'm in for 6 bags, sending PM!

Where is Mule? He hasn't ordered yet??

[Cannibal]

I have managed to ignore this thread for a week, then I just had to open it!
okay, let's keep going. I'm in for 6 bags, sending PM!

Where is Mule? He hasn't ordered yet??

Ignoring me!? My feelings are officially hurt. :crying

Turning the other cheek in the holiday spirit, I announce a 107 bag order from Hammock Forums. :thumbup:
I'm going to ask Ed for a final count the first week of Feb. I'm curious to see what kind of bar we will have set here. Will next year's crop of down addicts break our record? We'll just have to wait and see.

Oh, and Just Jeff, no excuses now. Time to get in on the 'downy goodness'! Didn't want you to think I had forgotten this:

Man, I really don't need this. Really. Don't need more down.

It's just that the last of my down is in the torso underquilt prototype. And it's not perfect but it's good enough for a loaner, so there's really no reason to cut it up. So if I need another down project, I'll need more down. But. I. Don't. Need. More. Right. Now.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Come on, everybody's doing it! :D

[Schneiderlein]

Cannibal, thanks for organizing this group buy. I just sent an email to Ed to order my down.

[Just Jeff]

I know, I know. Have to wait till after the 1st to get my permission slip from my wife. I'm already buttering her up and dropping hints, though...

[dually]

“… I'm curious to see what kind of bar we will have set here. Will next year's crop of down addicts break our record? We'll just have to wait and see.” Cannibal

Hummmm …
If a woodchuck can chuck wood…
Where do a down addict stuff down?

Why wait until next year (Dec-09)?
Maybe a group fabric-buy?

Since fabric is more diverse than down perhaps agree on two (three at most) types.

John

[peanuts]

i have come to the conclusion.....you guys are NUTS:lol::lol::lol:

[Ramblinrev]

my wife's response... "That's a lot of money for not much down." (sigh) guess I am shut out for the time being... But she's right about the first part. We don't have the cash flow to make it happen. :(

[Cannibal]

my wife's response... "That's a lot of money for not much down." (sigh) guess I am shut out for the time being... But she's right about the first part. We don't have the cash flow to make it happen. :(
Yeah, but think of the money you'll save on the heating bill with a nice warm down something on/over you. :)



Why wait until next year (Dec-09)?
Maybe a group fabric-buy?

Since fabric is more diverse than down perhaps agree on two (three at most) types. John
Fabric would be crazy difficult I would think. Not only are there so many choices in the actual fabric, but then you add in the colors and look out!:scared: However, if one were to occur, I might be up for some Momentum 0.9.

[NCPatrick]

Yeah, but think of the money you'll save on the heating bill with a nice warm down something on/over you. :)

Fabric would be crazy difficult I would think. Not only are there so many choices in the actual fabric, but then you add in the colors and look out!:scared: However, if one were to occur, I might be up for some Momentum 0.9.

Whoohoo! Cannibal volunteers for Mom .9 group buy! :lol:

[Schneiderlein]

Whoohoo! Cannibal volunteers for Mom .9 group buy! :lol:

Count me in.

[Cannibal]

Whoohoo! Cannibal volunteers for Mom .9 group buy! :lol:

U talkin to me?

I'm done till Feb. with group buys. But, when I order my Mom .9 I might just field the question. Although I'm sure I'd be disappointed in the results after the way this buy took-off. Hard to start with a Cheesesteak in Philly only to be eating 'Cheesesteaks' anywhere else later; just isn't as good as the first one.

[Coffee]

If ordering 107 bags of down doesn't take the group bug prize for the highest total, I don't want to know what will!

[NCPatrick]

Great job on getting this one off and running though. Thanks again.

[Cannibal]

If ordering 107 bags of down doesn't take the group bug prize for the highest total, I don't want to know what will!

I know, how cool is that? Plus, this is after just 7 days! Since Ed has left the deal open till Jan 31st it might just be closer to 200 bags before all is said and done.

[Cannibal]

Great job on getting this one off and running though. Thanks again.

Welcome! It's been fun, especially since Ed bailed me out of the hard part. :D

[gunn parker]

Hi
Does anyone know if Ed is on holidays?
I emailed him my order and I have not heard back as yet.
Don't want to hassle, just asking :)
gunn

[Mrprez]

Hi
Does anyone know if Ed is on holidays?
I emailed him my order and I have not heard back as yet.
Don't want to hassle, just asking :)
gunn

Ed was at the NYE at Springer Mtn, but should be back home now unless they had other plans for the rest of the weekend.

[gunn parker]

Thank you, I guess I'll hear from him soon :)

[gunn parker]

Hi
Has anyone heard back from Ed about their order?
I have email him twice now on [email protected] ([email protected]) and no reply as yet, I don't want to miss the deadline :)

[TiredFeet]

Hi
Has anyone heard back from Ed about their order?
I have email him twice now on [email protected] ([email protected]) and no reply as yet, I don't want to miss the deadline :)

Already got our order last Friday - so he's still in business.

Cannibal - after looking at the 8 bags of down we got, it's a good thing that Ed offered to handle the whole thing - I don't know how you would have been able to take care of trans-shipping over 100 bags or even how many boxes Ed would have had to use to send them to you.

[Schneiderlein]

Hi
Has anyone heard back from Ed about their order?
I have email him twice now on [email protected] ([email protected]) and no reply as yet, I don't want to miss the deadline :)

When I sent him an email, he got back to me within minutes and I received my order on the 31st. Maybe he's out hiking...

[I Splice]

Hi
Has anyone heard back from Ed about their order?
I have email him twice now on [email protected] ([email protected]) and no reply as yet, I don't want to miss the deadline :)

I've got my down already.

[dually]

“Has anyone heard back from Ed about their order?
I have email him twice now on [email protected] and no reply as yet, I don't want to miss the deadline”

Yes several times this week.
BUT different email address ….
>>>[email protected]<<<

John

[gunn parker]

Yes several times this week.
BUT different email address ….
>>>[email protected]<<<

John

Hi
I sent off another email this afternoon to that info address, hopefully he will get that one.

[NotToWorry]

Sorry about the mixup Aussie Hanger--I entered your email address wrong so they didn't get thru to you. Thanks for getting back in touch with me. Your order shipped on Jan 10th....Ed

[Cannibal]

Sorry about the mixup Aussie Hanger--I entered your email address wrong so they didn't get thru to you. Thanks for getting back in touch with me. Your order shipped on Jan 10th....Ed

Holy Crud!

The sale was so good Ed actually joined. Welcome to the craziness Ed!

[NotToWorry]

Yeah, I thought it was the least I could do. Thanks for setting up the group down sale Cannibal. So far 45 discounted bags have shipped! ...Ed

[Cannibal]

You should tell him a condition of the order is that he has to join the forum himself!! :)

OK, done.:D

[NotToWorry]

Travels with Samantha--your order shipped on 9Jan09. Thanks...Ed

[Narwhalin]

Welcome, NotToWorry! It is nice to see you are going be around...I am mulling over getting some down before the 31st...I probably won't be able to resist!

[slowhike]

Great to have you aboard Ed! Drop in as often as time allows.

[NCPatrick]

Hey Ed! Glad to see you on HF! Welcome!

I'll be ordering my 6 bags of down at the end of this week... :)

[slowhike]

When was the cut off time for ordering??? End of Jan?

[NCPatrick]

When was the cut off time for ordering??? End of Jan?

Yes, that's right (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=89663&postcount=1).

[slowhike]

Yes, that's right (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=89663&postcount=1).

Thanks Patrick!

[Dutch]

I'll be ordering my 6 bags very soon also. Ed thanks for the good deal on this and taking care of us in the past. If you remember i ordered 7 bags at TD and they are all used up.

[NCPatrick]

I'll be ordering my 6 bags very soon also. Ed thanks for the good deal on this and taking care of us in the past. If you remember i ordered 7 bags at TD and they are all used up.


Just ordered my 6 bags. I think I'm going to try to make a down hat (I won't use all 6 for the hat :laugh:).

[slowhike]

Just ordered my 6 bags. I think I'm going to try to make a down hat (I won't use all 6 for the hat :laugh:).

Good... you'd get the big head for sure:lol::lol:

[FreeTheWeasel]

Greetings Ed,

I sent my second email request to you. Hopefully, you've seen it by now.

Thanks for the outstanding opportunity.

FreeTheWeasel (Geoff)

[lenle01]

Greetings Ed,

I sent my second email request to you. Hopefully, you've seen it by now.

Thanks for the outstanding opportunity.

FreeTheWeasel (Geoff)

Ed seems to be having some difficulty with his e-mail right now. I should add that Ed is A++ at customer service. Thanks again Ed! Almost forgot- Big THANKS to cannibal for setting this whole group buy up!:thumbup:

[gunn parker]

Hi Ed
I have just this minute received my down. Thanks
Gunn

[Cannibal]

Just a reminder for those ordering down from Ed. Only 5 days left to get your discount.:scared:

[Take-a-knee]

Just a reminder for those ordering down from Ed. Only 5 days left to get your discount.:scared:

My cashier's check left today, I forgot about it.

[Dutch]

I just recieved my 6 bags

[NCPatrick]

I received my 6 bags the day before the Mt. Rogers trip. Gotta find some time now to make some things! :)

[angrysparrow]

I received my 6 bags the day before the Mt. Rogers trip. Gotta find some time now to make some things! :)

I think the down-gaiter idea you were talking about is interesting. Looking forward to the pics of that.

[gunn parker]

I wonder if we have ordered as much as we said we would yet?
I hope so.

[angrysparrow]

I wonder if we have ordered as much as we said we would yet?
I hope so.

It has to be very close by now. Ed mentioned Friday that he thought he'd shipped more than 80 bags, and that was before today's reminder and the last of the orders.

[FreeTheWeasel]

I just managed to pay for my six bags. We had some email troubles that gummed up the works, but, as expected, Ed was great to work with.

Hoo boy. Now i have to go figure out the differential baffle thingy.

FreeTheWeasel

[NotToWorry]

Speer Hammocks would like to thank everyone who recently purchased our 900 down in the HF group buy (20% off!). Orginally set to expire at the end of January, we are extending the deadline another month. Yes, Hammock Forum members can still recieve the 20% off--just be sure to place your order by email & mention HF--we'll respond with a PayPal request for payment. This offer is not available for online orders. Offer expires Feb 28, 2009. Many thanks to Cannibal for organizing this group buy. Stay warm

[slowhike]

Thanks Ed... very much. That will be a help to me, being able to wait another week to order the down.
You are the man ED!

[Take-a-knee]

My two bags of down are enroute, I just hope I can get a summer quilt made by summer.

[Brian]

Hmm, I may just have to add another 3 or 6 oz to my quilt now...:)

[Cannibal]

Wow, Thanks Ed!

[Cannibal]

My 9 bags are on the way! Gotta go clean out a closet.

[Mrprez]

Yep, I just ordered 4 bags myself....

[Schneiderlein]

My 9 bags are on the way! Gotta go clean out a closet.

The down won't take up much room. I got my 10 bags in December and they came in an 8.5"x15"x18" box.

Thanks again for putting the group buy together, Cannibal!

[FreeTheWeasel]

My down has arrived. Thanks to Cannibal and Ed for putting this deal together.

FreeTheWeasel

[Splinter]

Got my three bags...thanks Ed! Any chance that we could get a final total after Ed closes the sale? It would be interesting to see the final number.

[Cannibal]

My down arrived today; hip, hip!
Stored in the BlackBird; beautiful isn't it?:boggle::lol:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/4/3/5/down_storage_device_thumb.jpg (http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=4939&c=4)

[NotToWorry]

Got my three bags...thanks Ed! Any chance that we could get a final total after Ed closes the sale? It would be interesting to see the final number.

Forum members have snarfed up about 110 bags of down so far--& the sale continues thru Feb! That's 340 ozs of 900 fill down--should keep anyone toasty warm!

That much down reminds me that Karen & I keep our personal PeaPods, TobBlankets & SnugFits, plus all our extras, loaners, & prototypes in 2 large laundry bags--each big enought to fill a medium-size car! Our new puppy has taken to napping on one of the bags--she dissapears when she jumps on it! We have so many down quilts now, we jokenly say there's never any reason to be cold at our house!

Thanks to the DIY forum members--we look forward to hearing about all those toasty warm quilts & garments yet to be made

[Cannibal]

Did we set a record for the most Speer down sold in a month? That would be pretty cool.:cool:

[NotToWorry]

Did we set a record for the most Speer down sold in a month? That would be pretty cool.:cool:

Oh yes! Several days Karen & I were filling bags of down late into the night just to keep up with the orders--a nice problem to have.

[Cannibal]

Very cool. Sorry to make you guys work so hard. :D

[ricegravy]

Speer Hammocks would like to thank everyone who recently purchased our 900 down in the HF group buy (20% off!). Orginally set to expire at the end of January, we are extending the deadline another month. Yes, Hammock Forum members can still recieve the 20% off--just be sure to place your order by email & mention HF--we'll respond with a PayPal request for payment. This offer is not available for online orders. Offer expires Feb 28, 2009. Many thanks to Cannibal for organizing this group buy. Stay warm


I am interested in buying some. I would like to make an under quilt-full length, a top quit and maybe a light jacket.
Can someone give me an idea of how many bags to order?
Thanks!

[angrysparrow]

I am interested in buying some. I would like to make an under quilt-full length, a top quit and maybe a light jacket.
Can someone give me an idea of how many bags to order?
Thanks!

That's going to depend a lot on how thick the quilts, how long they are, and what design, what size jacket, etc. You should pick out your specific plans first and then decide what materials you need.

[Cannibal]

I am interested in buying some. I would like to make an under quilt-full length, a top quit and maybe a light jacket.
Can someone give me an idea of how many bags to order?
Thanks!
All depends on what season(s) you plan on using it with. The Jacks site is a good place to go to get an idea of fill weights on the quilts; I've no idea on the jacket, maybe 3 or 4oz?

[NCPatrick]

That's going to depend a lot on how thick the quilts, how long they are, and what design, what size jacket, etc. You should pick out your specific plans first and then decide what materials you need.

What!? You mean plan ahead? :scared:

:laugh:

[ricegravy]

What!? You mean plan ahead? :scared:

:laugh:

For real!
I am going to just start with the under quilt. The Jacks site says 12oz for the 3 season.

Any good instructions available?

[Mrprez]

For real!
I am going to just start with the under quilt. The Jacks site says 12oz for the 3 season.

Any good instructions available?

I would start here:

http://www.tothewoods.net/RedRiverGorgeQuilt/RedRiverGorgeQuilt.html

There are others as well. Click on the link at the top of this page for Helpful Hammock Articles.

[Cannibal]

For real!
I am going to just start with the under quilt. The Jacks site says 12oz for the 3 season.

Any good instructions available?

Here (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1826), here (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2645), and here (http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98). Those ought to get ya started.

[ricegravy]

Nice! Thanks for the info.

[jeffjenn]

I think the Thru hiker Whitney jacket comes with 5.2oz of down for a medium size.

[Schneiderlein]

The thru-hiker Whitney in size medium comes with 5.2 oz of down. I made mine a good bit longer in the torso and lengthened the sleeves a bit and ended up using 5.8oz of down (the additional down was from the group buy). It is a toasty warm jacket, but since you just started sewing, I would recommend to make the quilts first before trying to sew the jacket. And then, maybe practice on some other clothing items first.

The top quilt I was using at the Congaree swamp hangout had about 7.5oz of Speer down in it, IIRC. I've found it comfortable to the mid-twenties. As an underquilt, I don't think I could go much below 40 with it, unless I double it over and use as a 1/2 UQ. 12 oz of down for a full-length UQ will probably do you just fine for 3-season South Carolina backpacking, and by that I mean Fall, Winter and Spring!

[ricegravy]

The thru-hiker Whitney in size medium comes with 5.2 oz of down. I made mine a good bit longer in the torso and lengthened the sleeves a bit and ended up using 5.8oz of down (the additional down was from the group buy). It is a toasty warm jacket, but since you just started sewing, I would recommend to make the quilts first before trying to sew the jacket. And then, maybe practice on some other clothing items first.

The top quilt I was using at the Congaree swamp hangout had about 7.5oz of Speer down in it, IIRC. I've found it comfortable to the mid-twenties. As an underquilt, I don't think I could go much below 40 with it, unless I double it over and use as a 1/2 UQ. 12 oz of down for a full-length UQ will probably do you just fine for 3-season South Carolina backpacking, and by that I mean Fall, Winter and Spring!


Schneiderlein! Thanks for the info! Long time no see!
The Congaree swamp was fun!
Will you be attending the NC Hot Springs Hang out?

[Schneiderlein]

Schneiderlein! Thanks for the info! Long time no see!
The Congaree swamp was fun!
Will you be attending the NC Hot Springs Hang out?

I'd like to go, but will most likely be in Europe at that time. We should really plan another swamp hang!

[Cannibal]

Hey Ed-

Want to give us a total for the down group buy? I'd like to know how many bags next year's crop is going to have to buy to beat us.:tongueup::D

[NotToWorry]

Hey Ed-

Want to give us a total for the down group buy? I'd like to know how many bags next year's crop is going to have to buy to beat us.:tongueup::D

I'm not sure Cannibal, but I think it was nearly 100 bags = 310 oz of the finest goose down available on the planet! That should be enought to keep even me warm! We're looking forward to hearing about all the DIY projects.

[Rushthezeppelin]

Dear god, nearly 20 pounds of down :eek: