View Full Version : Anyone use the Complete Whoopie Sling set up?
Dutch253
07-27-2014, 02:55
I'm considering buying the complete whoopie sling set up to try to make my first hang easier. Anyone have this? How is it? Thanks!
Stir Fry
07-27-2014, 03:56
Yes I have Whoopie Slings on both my Hammock and my tarp. It makes set up so much easer with the added bonus of being lighter then almost any other setup.
Dutch253
07-27-2014, 03:59
Yes I have Whoopie Slings on both my Hammock and my tarp. It makes set up so much easer with the added bonus of being lighter then almost any other setup.
Do you use the complete set up sold by DD or another brand?
G Maurice
07-27-2014, 08:21
For me, whoopie slings are the way to go. I would recommend putting continuious loops at the ends of your hammock first, and attaching the whoopies to those. This allows for more flexibility when setting up. Like swapping the whoopies end for end or (more likely) if the only attachment points are to close together you can bypass the whoopies and attach the tree straps directly to the continous loops (Dutch Buckles from Dutch Wear are great for this). I purchased mine from whoopieslings.com However if you want to take the time you can make your own. Lots of instructions here on the forum and youtube both.
SirMarkos
07-27-2014, 22:01
Whoopie slings are awesome. Just put them on my DD Jungle hammock and besides the fact that they don't stretch, the adjustability is super precise!
I bought the DD whoopie setup from DD to use with my NX-250 Clark hammock. It works like a charm and it by far the single greatest upgrade I've made to my hammock. It's like hanging in easy mode! :)
Dutch253
08-01-2014, 05:39
I bought the DD whoopie setup from DD to use with my NX-250 Clark hammock. It works like a charm and it by far the single greatest upgrade I've made to my hammock. It's like hanging in easy mode! :)
That's what I was hoping to hear!
ntxkayakr
08-01-2014, 07:39
This setup from Dutch is one of the lightest you can find if you Backpack and like to go light. But you can also buy the parts from him and make the Whoopie Sling yourself and save some money; that way if a squirrel chews through your cord or it gets cut accidentally you can quickly splice a patch and be on your way. Hopefully none of your "friends" think it is funny to put peanut butter on your cords. LOL
http://dutchwaregear.com/whoopie-hook-suspension-kit-with-whoopie-sling.html
Note that the Titanium Dutch Whoopie Sling hook acts as a bead and prevents the adjustable loop from pulling through, also two hooks only weight 0.24 ounces (6.8 grams). You can also get rid of the Dutch-clips and just run the webbing strap and W.S. girth hitched to it through the loop of the strap after it is around the tree. This is not as convenient or fast but reduces the weight and cost of the extra hardware.
If you go with the Dutch-clips use a needle and thread to tightly sew them into the loop in the strap so they do not accidentally fall out, or use a climbing carabiner instead because it can be left clipped in and only weighs 23 grams (Camp nano 23). Personally I like to know that I can hang with absolutely no store bought hardware at all if necessary just a stick from the ground or fresh cut twig and MSH. Options are good to have, raccoons and campground/trail hobos run off with gear occasionally in my personal experience.
Edit: If you make the Whoopie Sling colors different (this is why Dutch allows them to be selected separately, head and foot) then if you leave attached to your hammock all the time you will know which end is the foot, attach this to tree a bit higher, as is commonly recommended. I have found this to be helpful. Or you could just attach different colored drip line cords to each, this works just as effectively. Watch the video on drip lines here :
http://youtu.be/c0-uOekjcU0
BTW I have stayed at the Bamberger Ranch in Texas it is very educational and interesting. I learned a lot about native plants and preserving the environment there. I wonder if the people who started that place had ancestors from the town where you live.
http://bambergerranch.org
ntxkayakr
08-01-2014, 10:32
I'm considering buying the complete whoopie sling set up to try to make my first hang easier. Anyone have this? How is it? Thanks!
I realize that you want a "complete set up" but if in the future you decide to make your own W.S. or other related continuous loops, soft shackles, dog-bones and such there is a rope/cord company in Germany that makes a product that is very similar to the American Samson Rope: Amsteel and Lash-it etc. This LIROS D-Pro should be easy to find in just about any shop that sells products for boats and sailing ships etc.
In English for those traveling abroad (Ich spreche kein Deutsch):
http://www.liros.com/en/products/productfinder/details/detail/liros-d-pro.html
In German:
http://www.liros.com/produkte/produktfinder.html
Like just about every thing else we do as hammock people, whoopie slings look complicated at first, but after you make a few, they are really easy and quick to make! Its a skill worth learning-----------I would buy some amsteel (or its equivilent) and learn how to make your own. (once you get good at it, it only takes a few min to put one together!)
dirkomatic
08-01-2014, 11:40
I use the setup from Jared at SLD. Comes with everything including adjustable ridgeline
I use the setup from Jared at SLD. Comes with everything including adjustable ridgeline
And if you get it from Jared, at least if he's shipping to you in the states, then he'll likely get it to you the day before you order it. He's _that_ fast.
ntxkayakr
08-01-2014, 23:55
I bought the DD whoopie setup from DD I looked at these online, they appear to be a very good choice, the DD Karabiners are heavier than Dutch-clips but have the advantages of being more multipurpose and less likely to get lost because they can be left attached to the straps. Dutch-clips are very small and can be lost easily, but I never have. Also the Whoopie Slings can be left attached to the hammock at all times. The Dutch W.S. hooks would be redundant and not necessary with this suspension system therefore better not to use (fairly obvious).
Long term if you can find some Stainless Steel wire about 0.8 mm thick and about 60 cm or longer and bend it in half this will make a good splicing tool to help you craft your own Whoopie Slings. Other tools include long 10-30 cm needles used to repair upholstery (furniture) these are typically over 1mm thick with a large eye to put the tapered end of the dyneema cord through and then pull through the hollow center of the cord.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?70189-Video-How-to-make-Whoopie-Slings
In this example a small yarn needle is used, I have done it this way. This is my "repair in the field" method
i.e. how to splice in an extra length of cord with just a yarn needle if your cord gets damaged while camping in the wilderness and you do not have a backup W.S. (hopefully you have some extra cord or can cut some off from the tag end).
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?9349-Whoopie-Sling-Suspension
sandykayak
08-03-2014, 14:53
There are a few more DD Superlight Youtubes. In one of them, (Scottish fella) his hammock slipped (and his button met the ground) at least twice and he reckoned it was because of the soft shackle. I had ordered the mini-biners.
The DD whoopies don't have a bead. Any suggestions on what to put to make sure I don't pull them through?
squidbilly
08-11-2014, 20:43
I looked at these online, they appear to be a very good choice, the DD Karabiners are heavier than Dutch-clips but have the advantages of being more multipurpose and less likely to get lost because they can be left attached to the straps. Dutch-clips are very small and can be lost easily, but I never have. Also the Whoopie Slings can be left attached to the hammock at all times. The Dutch W.S. hooks would be redundant and not necessary with this suspension system therefore better not to use (fairly obvious).
Long term if you can find some Stainless Steel wire about 0.8 mm thick and about 60 cm or longer and bend it in half this will make a good splicing tool to help you craft your own Whoopie Slings. Other tools include long 10-30 cm needles used to repair upholstery (furniture) these are typically over 1mm thick with a large eye to put the tapered end of the dyneema cord through and then pull through the hollow center of the cord.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?70189-Video-How-to-make-Whoopie-Slings
In this example a small yarn needle is used, I have done it this way. This is my "repair in the field" method
i.e. how to splice in an extra length of cord with just a yarn needle if your cord gets damaged while camping in the wilderness and you do not have a backup W.S. (hopefully you have some extra cord or can cut some off from the tag end).
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?9349-Whoopie-Sling-Suspension
I have some "sternal wire suture" that I use for splicing: #6 and #5 USP, 18'' long. It is 316L stainless steel, very strong but malleable. (#6 sounds like the size you recommend)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_suture
Very good for splicing Zing-it too. I have a few if anyone wants some.
campcrafter
10-06-2014, 14:41
After only using straps for several years I swtiched to whoopies when i got my DD Frontline.
I use the set from Mr. Arrowhead. http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/store/p371/Marlin_Spike_Whoopie_Kit.html
It does not have a bead and I pulled one loop into the bury and had to re-do the sling which of course made it smaller than the other. I found some small split rings at walmart and put those on to act as stoppers.
Whoopies work great - I do plan to upgrade from the toggle to a Dutch Buckle
Blue Skies!
cc
If you are asking about he 'All In One' setup with whoppie sling, O-rings, and straps all integrated into a single setup from WhoopieSlings.com, I purchased one and love it. Is lighter than similar setup I have with components acquired separately, packs small and works very well. No visible wear after about a year.
cbsinnett
10-13-2014, 21:48
After only using straps for several years I swtiched to whoopies when i got my DD Frontline.
I use the set from Mr. Arrowhead. http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/store/p371/Marlin_Spike_Whoopie_Kit.html
It does not have a bead and I pulled one loop into the bury and had to re-do the sling which of course made it smaller than the other. I found some small split rings at walmart and put those on to act as stoppers.
Whoopies work great - I do plan to upgrade from the toggle to a Dutch Buckle
Blue Skies!
cc
your question about what to do with not having a bead.
I did not put beads on the ones I made I just back splices the end of the Amsteel and it has worked out great for my son and I.
Don't feel the need now to ever put beads on any of them
+1 on making your own. I just made a pair plus a ridgeline for a Dutchgear argon hammock I just bought (Thanks, Dutch!) It's the 3rd set I've made and it took about 20 minutes. The first set took about an hour and a half...hopefully down to less than ten minutes soon...:cool:
FreedomVan
10-14-2014, 10:33
+1 on making your own. I just made a pair plus a ridgeline for a Dutchgear argon hammock I just bought (Thanks, Dutch!) It's the 3rd set I've made and it took about 20 minutes. The first set took about an hour and a half...hopefully down to less than ten minutes soon...:cool:
Ha! My Dutch Argon should arrive today along with some Amsteel for my first attempt at whoopies. Guess I need to set aside 90 minutes at least!