Cub Zip Winter Setup

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I have my wife and I pretty much set up for winter, so I have been working on a setup for my 3 yr old daughter's HH Cub Zip.

For top insulation, I have the military modular sleep system in there and for bottom insulation, I have a 3/4 length thermarest pad between the gore-tex bivy and the outer sleeping bag as well as a reflective windshield shade between the hammock and the diy poncho liner I made yesterday.

When I put her in there she said, "I'm as snug as a bug as a rug!" I think she meant "in a rug!" By the way she was in there when I took the picture.

I wonder how low the temps can go before she reaches her comfort limit.

I was happy with the limited capital that went into her setup, as this new hobby of mine has gotten rather expensive! The Cub Zip was free with HH holiday sale (when I bought my wife's Expedition) The poncho liner was $20 shipped off ebay, the shock cord and s-biners were just a few bucks, the windshield shade was $2 from Goodwill, and we already had the sleep system ($60 shipped from amazon) and the thermarest ($25 off craigslist).

Nice setup for your daughter. It is always nice to see families all enjoying the great outdoors together. (I may be a little jealous)

as far as the temp rating...theres only one way to find out. Get out there and hang with your family. Have fun and congrats on the fairly economical hammock setup for your little girl.

Snug as a bug! :)

Looks awesome... I nerd to get my daughter something like that, she has a full size table cloth hammock but no insulation... We shall see what kind of money I can wiggle out of the wife...

Not gonna lie, that may be the most adorable thing ive seen in a long time.

Very cute. Congrats on hanging together as a family. It is good to see families doing the same activities together.

The smile on her face says it all, good job Dad.

I have a very similar set up for both my daughters, two scouts, ones a zip and the others a bottom entry. They "LOVE" their hammocks, and when it's time for Mahha they start bouncing off the walls in excitement. I have enough down for the four of us, it took a bit to get it all but it was worth every penny and there's no question that it will keep them warm.

I got a good bit of the quilts during the times vendors had big sales, which helped tremendously.
Enlightened Equipment makes kid sized synthetic quilts and they are made extremely well and not too bad a price either http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/...ildrens-sizes/

I cant get my three yr old out of a tent, if she is alone. She loves to sleep in my hammock with me. I think its a security thing, I have lots of wildlife around. We hear coyotes every night and I think she is scared to be alone outside a tent. Not that a tent would stop a predator, but she seems more relaxed wirh walls, no matter how flimsy.

Thanks for sharing the pics crankybear! I didn't know anything was commercially available for kids.

If the setup I have for her didn't work out, I was planning on spending the money for a 3/4 down uq.

My two move around in their sleep a ridiculous amount when in their hammocks and we found that we had to tie the shockcord around the top of the hammocks and attached at the hammock tie outs so that the quilt stayed in place all night. When we didn't it would move all over the place and we would get woken up in the middle of the night as they got CBS.

While the extra steps to secure the partial (3/4) UQ's worked and for my two the 3/4 is almost a full length for them, I think that a true full length may be easier to secure and keep in place. Although I may try to add some Dutch Quilt hooks and hangers so that we don't have to jerryrig the UQ's.

I like using those big binder clips... You know the black ones with the metal wire handles... They work well to just clip on and hold onto the underquilt...

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I like using those big binder clips... You know the black ones with the metal wire handles... They work well to just clip on and hold onto the underquilt...

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Yes they do for netless, I have tried them before and they are quite the pain on the netted hammocks (at least on mine they are) to keep in place. I think the ladder 'n' hooks like SGT Rock has on his will fix the shifting issue, I'm just lazy and will most likely do it last minute :laugh:

That advice may prove to come in handy as my girl is a WILD sleeper. So wild in fact, I'm worried she may not make it through a night at all. How old were your girls (Cranky Bear) when they first started hanging?

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That advice may prove to come in handy as my girl is a WILD sleeper. So wild in fact, I'm worried she may not make it through a night at all. How old were your girls (Cranky Bear) when they first started hanging?

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They have been hanging for about 3yrs, so 4 and 8yrs old. I started them off with homemade flat bed sheet hammocks suspended from their bunk-beds (sadly they no longer have that bed anymore). They instantly fell in love with them and wanted to go hang in the woods with me. So we took them to a Mahha and it was rough for all of us the first time out, but they have slept in their hammocks many a night since and don't have a issue now.

I think it was the adjustment to the sounds and the unsure how close we were (even though we were like 3-4ft from them), and the fear's of the woods. I think it was the second or third time out that they finally started to adjust.

They are still active sleepers, in their beds they roll around sometimes head on the floor and feet/legs on the bed. But in the hammocks they move side to side and sometimes their heads are at the opposite ends they started with. So far no issues, at one time I was worried that they would end up flipping the hammock and sleep on the net :laugh: :scared:, but so far that hasn't happened. I think the bowing of the hammock makes a pocket (per-say) and they just move around in that?????

Another you could talk too for advise is Hangnout, as his daughter 2Sticks has been hangin for quite some time now. In fact there are a few videos that they have done with them hiking and hanging and showing their gear. Check em' out, I got a great deal of info from them (and others as well)!

Those are some great looking cub pictures. We just got our cub yesterday. Now all three kids have their own hammocks (2 scouts, one cub). I haven't though of underquilts for them, but I may look into it now. So far we've just used a OCF pad under them with a windshield reflector. That's worked down to about 4-6C. It's a bit difficult for them to stay on though.