Has anybody ever used a burrow as an underquilt? I understand the reasoning and benefit of a dedicated differential-cut uq, but I like the versatility of a quilt that can do both, if needed.
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Has anybody ever used a burrow as an underquilt? I understand the reasoning and benefit of a dedicated differential-cut uq, but I like the versatility of a quilt that can do both, if needed.
I have an UQ, well 2 now, a full length and a 3/4. I also have a Burrow. So I wouldn't need to use it as an UQ. The burrow does not have the suspension on it to use as an UQ, and if you have a sewn footbox, you would not be able to use it as an UQ anyway.
I don't see any reason that you would need to use your Burrow as an UQ. If you need an UQ and don't have one, then use a pad.
Can you explain as to why you would need to do this?
I already have a good Wilderness Logics 20 deg topquilt which I use with a neoair pad in my BMBH or on the ground. I'd like to get another top quilt for my wife to use on the ground in the summer. However, she's adamant about not camping in any colder temperatures, so I'd like to be able to use that same quilt as an underquilt to extend the range of my neoair.
The JRB rectangular quilts are tempting because they are designed to work with the BMBH as an underquilt, and I will probably go with one of those, but I was wondering if the burrow would work too because they are a great value. A burrow would probably work, I'd just need to get some grossgrain loops put on the corners to be able to suspend it... I was just wondering if anyone had done it before.
i would look at a JRB quilt... or try to find one of the stealths they use to sell
but they have many options that would fill the bill for your needs
Burrow as a under-quilt--- No...
Under-quilt as a burro-- ohhh yes :)
You can use a incubator as a tq np.. Just snug up one end and now you have a footbox..In a way-- a incubator would make a great---nice BIG tq... Then-- when she is home watching dacing with the stars-- you can be out and use it for what its meant for-- a UQ(with all the rigging already in place)... Everyone is happy.. When you order up the incubator-- order the inside fabric as 7d.. It works well for the inside of the UQ and when used as a burrow-- will be very soft agasint her skin..
I've considered it, but it would require some modification. The addition of some grosgrain loops on the corners and a JRB style suspension should work nicely.
If you sewed a couple snaps to something to tie shock cord to, you could possibly rig something up... would be harder to adjust the suspension but doable I think.. I've given this thought.
In the summer time I was trying to get the girly into hammock camping and wanted to work out a way to both use underquilts and use our fleece sleeping bags on top.. pads work but they sure aren't comfortable after you've used an underquilt, at least not your blue CCF ones.
One big conern though is the tension required to reduce drafts vs. the amount of tension that corner snap could take without damage. I'd be real careful as far as that's concerned.
You could do it but you'd have to suspend it eight ways from Sunday to get it to fit well enough to eliminate all the gaps and cold spots. Proper fit and form are essential to reaching the designed comfort rating of an UQ.
David
I actually requested Adam (Hammock Gear) make a Burrow as you described so that I could have a "Dual use" TQ. Contact him to go over the particulars but basically went with a footbox that is closed with velcro and grosgrain? loops. Use micro-biners to give better support for footbox closure and a place to store them for use as an UQ. Shock cord is channeled through the sides w/ minicord locks for adjustment. That is the Huge advantage of working with HG, custom changes are second nature to them.
And how did it work out? Are you happy with the results in the field?Quote:
Originally Posted by soundmanob
i just hooked this up over the weekend actually. my quilt was supposed to have grosgrain loops on all the corners, but they forgot. so, i shook the down out of the corners of the burrow, and attached some jrb grip clips. i may just hand stitch some grosgrain on myself. just run some adjustable length shockcord off each corner, and get busy tweaking.
the burrow functions very much like a jacks r better hudson river, this assuming you have the snap footbox obv. its a little hard to get it to fit right as the non-dramatic differential cut makes it easy to smash insulation as you dial it in. cool thing is though, the drawcord in the top and bottom channels does a pretty nice job of sealing gaps.
i have not taken this on a true overnight, but i was warm in the 30's for a few hours - i was using a 20* burrow.
although i probably won't use this a lot... it is cool to be able convert for a friend, so they don't have to use a pad.
I agree with Rip, it wasn't intended for a winter UQ but a "spare" in 3S environment if needed. Haven't done an overnight with it but I would agree with high 30s. Certainly packs smaller (Major advantage) than the usual UQ.
My burrow is rectangular (When cord locks released), extra long and wide. I use the JRB UQ shock cord attachment to grosgained corners w/ microbiners.
Still have to tweek each time as the shockcord does tend to stretch over time.